Riots in Minneapolis

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Solemateleft

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LOCAL VOTER ID is the SOLUTION to prevent Out-of-STATE ANARCHISTS from coming in and getting paid to inflame and destroy your communities…
Just like post 911 screening to attend local parades – all folks who wish to participate in a local civil protest – should be pre-screened for local VOTER-IDs… If YOU DON’T HAVE a LOCAL VOTER ID than you CAN NOT PARTICIPATE IN OUR CIVIL PROTESTS!!!

Who are Antifa?
Today, antifa activists focus on harassing right wing extremists both online and in real life. Antifa is not a unified group; it is loose collection of local/regional groups and individuals. Their presence at a protest is intended to intimidate and dissuade racists, but the use of violent measures by some antifa against their adversaries can create a vicious, self-defeating cycle of attacks, counter-attacks and blame. This is why most established civil rights organizations criticize antifa tactics as dangerous and counterproductive.
While some antifa use their fists, other violent tactics include throwing projectiles, including bricks, crowbars, homemade slingshots, metal chains, water bottles, and balloons filled with urine and feces. They have deployed noxious gases, pushed through police barricades, and attempted to exploit any perceived weakness in law enforcement presence.

Away from rallies, they also engage in “doxxing,” exposing their adversaries’ identities, addresses, jobs and other private information. This can lead to their opponents being harassed or losing their jobs, among other consequences...

Bottom-line: Antifa Anarchist = ANTI-JUSTICE! Where is the justice for ALL of the businesses and people's jobs who are lost all as a result of their MIS-PLACED AGENDA?

ANARCHIST ARE THE ENEMY IN OUR SPIRITUAL WARFARE AGAINST EVIL! THEY ARE EVIL - AS THEY CARE NOT for ALL the INNOCENT LIVES that they are DESTROYING IN THEIR WAKE!
 

HoneyDew

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Well, I guess times have changed. Let's be honest though. I'm not condoning anyone losing their lives, and I'm not going to condone any of this nonsense going on right now either. If you are condoning violent crowds burning down buildings and the likes then you really need to check yourself!

And just so you know police brutality and misconduct is not just a white and black thing...I live in an area that is 99% white, but guess what there is still a lot of police brutality going on, but you won't hear about it though because it is against white folks. Police need to be held accountable for their actions. Protests are fine, but violent crowds destroying property and endangering lives is also a crime and needs to be dealt with as so. Anyone committing crimes should be held accountable.
You need to read my posts from the beginning BEFORE you suggest that I "check myself". I will say AGAIN. I DON'T CONDONE the rioting and looting. I understand the frustration behind it. In trying to be heard when done peaceably and noone cares or listens. It is time for the police to be held accountable for their actions. Period. They will have their day in court, something that George Floyd was robbed of. All people are talking about is the rioting but conversations need to be had and people need to come together and do something about it or what is happening now will continue with the next murder. What happened to George Floyd was just that murder and if history repeats itself the officer(s) will walk.
 

HoneyDew

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With that I will DEFINITELY take my leave of this thread. This isn't about someone's political agenda. Right wing left wing crap. SOMEBODY was MURDERED and folks can't look outside their political agenda. Sad
 

bojack

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You need to read my posts from the beginning BEFORE you suggest that I "check myself". I will say AGAIN. I DON'T CONDONE the rioting and looting. I understand the frustration behind it. In trying to be heard when done peaceably and noone cares or listens. It is time for the police to be held accountable for their actions. Period. They will have their day in court, something that George Floyd was robbed of. All people are talking about is the rioting but conversations need to be had and people need to come together and do something about it or what is happening now will continue with the next murder. What happened to George Floyd was just that murder and if history repeats itself the officer(s) will walk.
Do you think it was 1rst degree murder or manslaughter ? I do agree the officer killed the guy and should have cuffed him as soon as possible ..
 

1ofthem

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You need to read my posts from the beginning BEFORE you suggest that I "check myself". I will say AGAIN. I DON'T CONDONE the rioting and looting. I understand the frustration behind it. In trying to be heard when done peaceably and noone cares or listens. It is time for the police to be held accountable for their actions. Period. They will have their day in court, something that George Floyd was robbed of. All people are talking about is the rioting but conversations need to be had and people need to come together and do something about it or what is happening now will continue with the next murder. What happened to George Floyd was just that murder and if history repeats itself the officer(s) will walk.
Here's the thing... united we stand, divided we fall. If folks want to turn this in to some type of race war. then that is just foolishness. I don't know anyone white or black, who would condone what those cops done. I totally agree that these cops need held accountable for what they have done. They killed that man for no reason. Rioters also need to be held accountable, as well. And yeah, you do need to check yourself...I've saw where you've said you didn't agree with the rioters antics...Yet you keep insinuating, that is the only way they can be heard. That is not true. Protesting and getting the info out is good, but rioting is foolish, dangerous, and against the law.
 

1ofthem

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With that I will DEFINITELY take my leave of this thread. This isn't about someone's political agenda. Right wing left wing crap. SOMEBODY was MURDERED and folks can't look outside their political agenda. Sad
Also agree, this is not politics. What happened is horrible, but these riots going on the streets is foolishness and should not be allowed to continue. Two wrongs don't make a right. It is sad all the way around...just saying.
 

HoneyDew

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Do you think it was 1rst degree murder or manslaughter ? I do agree the officer killed the guy and should have cuffed him as soon as possible ..
I don't believe that he went there with intent to kill the man. So no I can't say first degree murder. Maybe 2nd or more likely 3rd. I'm sorry but this has to be my last response. Have a good day.
Here's the thing... united we stand, divided we fall. If folks want to turn this in to some type of race war. then that is just foolishness. I don't know anyone white or black, who would condone what those cops done. I totally agree that these cops need held accountable for what they have done. They killed that man for no reason. Rioters also need to be held accountable, as well. And yeah, you do need to check yourself...I've saw where you've said you didn't agree with the rioters antics...Yet you keep insinuating, that is the only way they can be heard. That is not true. Protesting and getting the info out is good, but rioting is foolish, dangerous, and against the law.
I said that I understood WHY they felt the need to. That I understood WHY they are frustrated. Nothing wrong with understanding why someone did what they did. It does not mean that you agree with action taken. Have a good day.
 
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I'm not saying that I condone the fires or the looting, but if you're madder at the businesses that can be rebuilt, than at George Floyd's life that CAN'T, and the men who killed him and are WERE STILL WALKING AROUND FREE, then you don't understand how serious this is. And what is going on in the minds of a neighborhood full of people who have lost ALL hope.

Aaaand now that the fires have started, it's OK to ignore the murder of George Floyd, his killers and the people and circumstances (both local, societal and historical) that allows for this to continue to happen.
So now blame is being shifted to the community for feeling so hopeless and helpless that they see no other way to get the world's attention to the fact that they have literally NOBODY to turn to.
Again, I'm not condoning the fires, and CERTAINLY not the looting. But I do UNDERSTAND. I wish that more of us would. I am done here.
you do condone it

That is easy for you to say, when it wasn’t your business that had nothing to do with it get destroyed, if it was your business I have no doubt you would be singing a different tune.

you don’t have clue of what you say, a lot of the looters don’t even care what happen to George, some people was there for one purpose to loot and destroy.

you should be done because of ignorants
 

HoneyDew

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I'm on my phone and not my desktop, I think I hit the wrong key. Excuse that please.
 

HoneyDew

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you do condone it because you wouldn’t have said you don’t if you didn’t.

That is easy for you to say, when it wasn’t your business that had nothing to do with it get destroyed, if it was your business I have no doubt you would be singing a different tune.

you don’t have clue of what you say, a lot of the looters don’t even care what happen to George, some people was there for one purpose to loot and destroy.

you should be done because of ignorants
You are the one with no clue. I'm not the only one in this thread to have said such. So you can put your attack hammer down. I have not called anyone a name in this thread and I will not accept it from you. If you don't know how to converse without doing so shows your ignorance. I knew this would take turn for the worse. Blocked
 
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You are the one with no clue. I'm not the only one in this thread to have said such. So you can put your attack hammer down. I have not called anyone a name in this thread and I will not accept it from you. If you don't know how to converse without doing so shows your ignorance. I knew this would take turn for the worse. Blocked
Good I’m over joyed you block me, best thing since slice bread,

you don’t even care about what happen to George I don’t believe a word you say.
 
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Why do people say such stupid things like O your on block mode, So what means nothing like it’s suppose to hurt or something flat out idiots with zero brains.

honeydew don’t ever take me off your block list nor will I take you off my list and not block list,
 

bojack

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Jus sayin .. And whose to say there isn't/hasn't been these same type forces influencing black communities to never step up and be witness to crimes and anti-police for a long time .. It happens in all communities that people don't want to ''get involved'' and end up promoting/perpetuating violence, murder, and theft by apathy or neglecting civic duty .. If true I think the communities share some of the overall blame ..
 
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Do you think it was 1rst degree murder or manslaughter ? I do agree the officer killed the guy and should have cuffed him as soon as possible ..
He was handcuffed right when he got out of his vehicle, long before he got thrown to the ground while handcuff.
 

bojack

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He was handcuffed right when he got out of his vehicle, long before he got thrown to the ground while handcuff.
I didn't know that, thanx ..
 

Billyd

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Maybe some of you know. In Minnesota, does a business owner have a right to use deadly force to stop people from looting or burning his business? In Florida, he does.
 

Silverwings

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NYPD officers approached Eric Garner on July 17,2014 on suspicion of selling single cigarettes from packs without tax stamps. After Garner told the police that he was tired of being harassed and that he was not selling cigarettes, the officers attempted to arrest Garner. When Pantaleo placed his hands on Garner, Garner refused to cooperate and pulled his arms away. Pantaleo then placed his arm around Garner's neck and wrestled him to the ground. With multiple officers restraining him, Garner repeated the words "I can't breathe" 11 times while lying face down on the sidewalk. After Garner lost consciousness, officers turned him onto his side to ease his breathing. Garner remained lying on the sidewalk for seven minutes while the officers waited for an ambulance to arrive. Garner was pronounced dead at an area hospital approximately one hour later.
 
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Maybe some of you know. In Minnesota, does a business owner have a right to use deadly force to stop people from looting or burning his business? In Florida, he does.
Hmm I looked that up and no in Florida you cannot use deadly force to protect a business unless you are in the business and feel your life is threaten.