The discussion of weather we help someone out or keep the Feasts hasn't been the issue.
It's a slippery slope to say,"Each of us does what we feel is right, and honoring God....."
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The discussion of weather we help someone out or keep the Feasts hasn't been the issue.
It's a slippery slope to say,"Each of us does what we feel is right, and honoring God....."
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eternally-gratefull
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You do not hold them in esteem when you are going against what he said, and trying to place us back under the ritualism of the law. When paul specifically said, the law is a tutor to lead us to christ, and thats all.
LOL this is all pure invention. you have been listening to the fools of this world. Easter has nothing to do with Ashtaroth, a goddess (or being in the plural, representations of a goddess) and therefore not Baal. Provide your basic evidence (not a citation from some stupid googled site. Original documents please).
No doubt you will also provide EVIDENCE for your claim that colored eggs, bunnies and hot cross buns are directly associated with the worship of Ashtaroth? If not you are guilty of misrepresentation.
Easter celebrates the day of resurrection, and as we do not know when that was we can select any Sunday. Pesach has nothing to do with us. It was a celebration during which Israelites united with their forebears in the deliverance from Egypt. When Jesus said, 'Do this as often as you drink it' He did not mean every Passover. He meant whenever we drink red wine. If you want to keep Passover you are welcome. We will celebrate the death and resurrection of our LORD Jesus Christ.
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eternally-gratefull
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Actually I must agree with her. Easter has it roots in pagan cults. as does Christmas. (they were started by a pagan church)
Does that mean I will not follow easter? I know many who have come to God during easter. if God can use it, who am I to deny him an opportunity.
Can I ask, what was the point under the new covenant in writing the law on believers minds and placing it on their hearts?
If they do not know what that law is when it is put inside of them, why was it put there?
Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come Gal3:19
Do you disagree with Paul?
She said it was connected with the worship of Ashtaroth. That is untrue. Easter was not originally started by a pagan church. Nor are its roots in pagan cults. It was established in parts of the original 'Catholic (universal) church' as a celebration of the resurrection before the time of Constantine. Had it been tied to Passover it could not have always been celebrated on the Lord's Day. . The fact that worldly people have introduced 'pagan' elements into it (as worldly people will always do) does not counter that fact.
Nor was Christmas commenced as a pagan festival as its very name reveals. No one knew the correct date for the birth of Christ (except a few fanatics lol) so they wisely selected a time when Christians could celebrate Christ while others were celebrating the sun. It was one of the only times when the majority of Christians could claim 'a day off'. And it enabled them to AVOID pagan celebrations.
These myths are invented by people who want to think themselves clever.
I could be wrong, but it seems as if you have a hard time believing you can follow the Law out of Love. But I can guarantee that I love God while following the Law just as much as you love God not intentionally following the Law. If that is the case, and again I could be wrong, then we're not going to a common ground, and that's OK by me.
Honoring Yahweh, Paul kept the commandments. He obeyed the Creator. and the Savior.
and he learned from the Savior by revelation.
and he still kept all the (ten) commandments (and more, but ten is good here).
all his life. as did all the apostles, as did they teach, as Yahshua King Messiah Savior taught them.
hasatan changed things. not Yahweh nor Yahshua, but hasatan changed things (in the heresy church).
today most follow the heresy church, in part or in full deception.
only a few escape the evil clutches of this world.
and he learned from the Savior by revelation.
and he still kept all the (ten) commandments (and more, but ten is good here).
all his life. as did all the apostles, as did they teach, as Yahshua King Messiah Savior taught them.
hasatan changed things. not Yahweh nor Yahshua, but hasatan changed things (in the heresy church).
today most follow the heresy church, in part or in full deception.
only a few escape the evil clutches of this world.
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eternally-gratefull
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I am am relating to God in love. And that is often demonstrated through obeying God. Not just saying it. Obedience to Him sometime involves ritual and ceremony. But if that ritual and ceremony is done without love, it is worthless.
Again, it's not just ritualism of the Law. It's love for God expressed in action, sometimes ritual.
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eternally-gratefull
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No. I love, and when I do. I follow the law. I do not need some law to tell me how to do it. It just happens.
You are free to love God how you wish.
I just fear what you teach gives people a false sense of security, and maybe even yourself. I say it out of experience, and what I have seen.
Again, Just because you do not covet, does not mean you love at all. if your sense of security of how well you love is based because you do not covet (follow law) your in danger of a false sense of humilty. and lack of love
that was the problem with the pharisees. and is the problem with every legalistic church I have ever attended.
to an extent, you're right. I don't know what your relationship with God looks like. But as I said it is a slippery slope to say that it is ok to not do what God said to do and still say you love Him.
There is no goal of security in following the Law. As has been said ad naseum obedience doesn't earn salvation, justification, righteousness, approval or security with God. It is all done as a response to the love, grace and mercy already given to us.
When you became a Christian did you know it was wrong to commit adultery before you read that in the bible or had it explained to you by a minister? I did