Jesus said, and I'm probably paraphrasing, "I stand at the door and knock. Anyone that opens to Me, I will come in and sup with him." I suppose that there are those that consider opening the door, when you hear Jesus knocking, as a work?
Yes, I believe that you paraphrased incorrectly. Here is the exact verse, at least according to the KJV.
The key to it is the "hear my voice". to be able to hear Christ's voice (in the Bible) is the prerequisite. To truly hear, is to hear spiritually with spiritual ears, not human ears. Spiritual hearing accompanies being born-again which is from becoming saved. Only they have it and can hear.
[Rev 3:20 KJV] 20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
[Jhn 8:43 KJV] 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.
That verse actually is about fellowship and not salvation. If you hear my voice implies they are sheep.Jesus said, and I'm probably paraphrasing, "I stand at the door and knock. Anyone that opens to Me, I will come in and sup with him." I suppose that there are those that consider opening the door, when you hear Jesus knocking, as a work?
You have to go around "any man" to get to "hear my voice without some of man, don't you think? Have you noticed the plural conjugation of "hear"? What's Jesus saying? "If any hear my voice..." or "If (any singular) man hears my voice..."? What does the KJV say?
No, the only "any man" are those who will hear and respond are limited to those who can hear, not everyone.
The "any man" is defined as:
tis
- a certain, a certain one
- some, some time, a while
As a dog returns to his own vomit, so a fool repeats his folly ~~ Proverbs 26Salvation is for the whole world of the Election of Grace!
That verse actually is about fellowship and not salvation. If you hear my voice implies they are sheep.
Not every door is a reference to Jesus. The door here is the door to our hearts. Supping is talking about meeting our desires. It is part of His ministry as the good Shepherd. See Psalm 23.He is the door of his sheep, and I seriously doubt Jesus is talking about knocking on Himself here.
or "whomsoever"
Strong's Greek: 5100
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
any, anything, whomsoever
An enclitic indefinite pronoun; some or any person or object -- a (kind of), any (man, thing, thing at all), certain (thing), divers, he (every) man, one (X thing), ought, + partly, some (man, -body, - thing, -what), (+ that no-)thing, what(-soever), X wherewith, whom(-soever), whose(-soever).
Not every door is a reference to Jesus. The door here is the door to our hearts. Supping is talking about meeting our desires. It is part of His ministry as the good Shepherd. See Psalm 23.
You have your source, I have mine. Nevertheless, the important point is who are those who can hear and they are only those born again.
It's not about salvation period. Nothing to do with Calvinism or Arminianism. It's about fellowship.Calvinists seem all so very nice tho...
ε. ἑστηκώς ἐπί τήν θύραν καί κρούων is said of Christ seeking entrance into souls, and they who comply with his entreaty are said ἀνοίγειν τήν θύραν, Revelation 3:20.
I can't read Greek here without helps but, I'mna bet it says "Behold I stand at the door and knock," and "that open the door" respectively.
I would say it as those that hear are born again.
It's not about salvation period. Nothing to do with Calvinism or Arminianism. It's about fellowship.
Those that have ears, let him hear. That is,
I know you said that. I just didn't hear it![]()
No surprise there!
Well, I have a habit of not listening to the voice of strangers.![]()
1 John 2:2 KJV
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.