SALVATION ONLY POSSIBLE WITHOUT WORKS!

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Isaiah is good ezekiel is good
Revelation tells us the minority will be obedient to God and the majority will kill those who try and obey God and the Bible and keep his commandments in loveshwo me who go into the new Jerusalem...
have any Bible verses.
 
And, the Ten Commandments say you will not Murder not you will not Kill. There's a huge difference. The first is premeditated and in cold blood. The second may be something like the death penalty for a serial killer or going to war against God's enemies or saving your family from being killed in a house robbery (for example).
 
I said you are in error and dont match the word of God

I have said and you can check my posts I have no righteousness and I have no works
Jesus does his works
and his works are commandment keeping
and if you dont have his works you are not born again
 
Jesus is my righteousness
he is my director and he keeps the commandments
al I am is obedient to his word

why do you want to be disobedient?
Dont you love him?
 
And said:
You accuse
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That's what we should do when false teachings are presented (or rather spammed across the forums). I'm not accusing you, I'm accusing your beliefs and your desire to push them on others.
 
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;


Do you love Jesus?
I love Jesus
I love his word
I read his word
I follow him because I love him

do you love him?

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
 
And said:
we will see
I satand on the word of God
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No. You stand on your twisted interpretation/
you have a false interpretation of believing
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You merely belief, You have no faith at all. Faith is an assurance of what is promised will occure. Your faith is in yourself not God.
and a false conception of righteousness
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Your interpretation of righteousness is mans interpretation. My interpretation is Gods. Which is 100% obedience to his laws and commands, and anyone who falls short is condemned .

You ignore this.
and a false man made religion
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Actually your religion is from satan, He made it up thousands of years ago, it has many types and flavors, but it is still the same basic premeis. Man must make up for his own sin, and Do all these religious works. and MAYBE just MAYBE God will forgive them.

Good luck in your trek.
and a false perspective of ignoring sanctification
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there are two types of sanctification.

1. Positional (also known as justification) Gods children are SET-APART from those ho are not his children, and are his enemy.

2. Conditional. Gods children must learn to grow and trust him, and their lives will change because of this, and they will conditionally be set-apart from the world.

 
Titus 3:3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
Titus 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Titus 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Titus 3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
 
Re: SALVATION ONLY POSSIBLE WITHOUT WORKS!

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tell me what the righteousness of christ is?
do you have it?


Psa 119:172 My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.


When you say the righteousness of christ you can say
since they are equivalent
the ten commandment keeping of Christ



So I suppose you have the righteousness which is of the law?

Me, I will take the righteousness which is based upon the perfect faith OF Christ and it has been applied to my life by faith.....

Your works that you trust....did you do enough today?...the faith of Christ is still covering me today and I have entered into HIS REST based upon faith and have ceased from works as the LAW IS NOT OF FAITH....so have you completely kept the law today?

No as you accuse without 2 or 3 witness....you broke the law today and are still in your sins! and LOST according to scripture!

How about answer the charges oh man of law!​
 
so
it is clear
we are to be obedient and tstop those things

if Jesus is working in us then that will happen
if it is not happening Jesus is not in you
 
And said:
Jesus is my righteousness
he is my director and he keeps the commandments
al I am is obedient to his word

why do you want to be disobedient?
Dont you love him?
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Here is what is different about you and me

You boast of you ability to keep his comands, and refuse to acknowledge how terribly inept you are at doing so in accordance with HIS requirment (perfection)

I admit I can not keep them in accordance with his requirement, and continue to ask his power to help me at least grow every day, being more like him.

Your faith is in yourself.

My faith is in God.

 
Please pay attention
I have no Righteousnes

Jesus has righteousness
he keeps the law
he lives my life and I obey him

if you DISOBEY and go and steal you had a devil spirit
it is evidence you do NOT have christ

that is what the Bible says

so
repent and get the right spirit
 
And said:
Titus 3:3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
Titus 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Titus 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Titus 3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
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Thanks for the scriptures that prove my point and make you look foolish.....do you understand the words bolded above?
Especially GRACE, JUSTIFIED, THROUGH, MERCY, LOVE etc. in context!
 
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so
it is clear
we are to be obedient and tstop those things

if Jesus is working in us then that will happen
if it is not happening Jesus is not in you
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You still will not be perfect. And still be rightly condemned, if God has not saved you.

 
How can you say we dont have to worry about being disobedient?
havent you read the bible?
 
dcontroversal said:
To teach salvation based upon your own works is heretical!....

1. NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH WE HAVE DONE, BUT ACCORDING TO HIS MERCY HAS HE SAVED US
2. IN THE GRACE YOU ARE, HAVING BEEN SAVED OUT OF FAITH, NOT OF WORKS LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST
3. IF YOU BELIEVE WITH YOUR MIND AND CONFESS WITH YOUR MOUTH....THOU SHALT BE SAVED!
4. Galatians chapters 1, 3--->Faith plus works =false heretical doctrine with no ability to save!
5. Romans 8:1 NO CONDEMNATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN CHRIST---LAST PART OF VERSE ADDED AND NOT IN ORIGINAL TEXT
6. DAVID AND ABRAHAM--->DESCRIBE ACURATELY THAT GRACE AND SALVATION AND RIGHTEOUSNESS IMPUTED UNTO MAN WITHOUT THE DEEDS OF THE LAW<----WORKS
7. NUMEROUS SCRIPTURES THAT POINT ONLY TO FAITH (BELIEF) FOR TOTAL SALVATION

I hope you unbelievers have enough works and that your works exceed the PHARISEES in righteousness and that you are not 1 work short.....NO HOPE OR ASSURANCE IN WORKS!
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i feel like crying,what you explained here is what i saw in 2010 when God corrected me by giving me a Second Chance to live when i thought my works were not enough(continuously falling short of good works) and i Deserve Judgement by His hands by ending everything.
And i saw His True Character then,......the Anxious Father who held His prodigal son from doing the stupid act of quitting life.
Not to offend anyone here,but to confirm what you said.
Learning a lot each day after that unforgettable Encounter with God.
Thanks for pointing this it out.

The LOVE OF GOD is the sole reason why people changed and got their life transformed to a better Holier walk in Christ.Because God First Loved us,we Love Him back.Not that we can repay enough,but to reflect Christ more in us By His Grace.

Again,Thanks a lot for the beautiful way you explained it.

Christianity is a Holy Addiction :)

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One more day ahead if there,every Christian tries to do something more that can put a smile on the Face of Jesus:)

May God Bless you more and more for the Revelation you received:)
Let's all Pray more when we convict the same(people) whom we convict,and Forgive more that God Forgives us more of our failures(even the ones unknown to us).

 
I will never be perfect
I will however be obedient
Jesus bloos forgives my past sins and gives me strength to follow JEsus
 
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