Pure apostasy. Shame on you!
Christ's blood did not start our salvation but finished it to the last degree. Isaiah 53 foretold of all this and that God is satisfied with the blood of Christ.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
SALVATION ONLY POSSIBLE WITHOUT WORKS!
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Christ's blood did not start our salvation but finished it to the last degree. Isaiah 53 foretold of all this and that God is satisfied with the blood of Christ.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
NO doubt as he is called BROTHER SAUL, before his immersion....which has nothing to do with salvation.
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eternally-gratefull
Guest
What is the gospel.
Believe in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
You have not obeyed the gospel.
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eternally-gratefull
Guest
Acts 22:16 Saul was still in his sins and lost until those sins were washed away when he was baptized.
Now I am going to have to disagree with you on this one. You can accept Jesus and then latter turn you back on Him and reject the salvation you once received. Now someone may argue that God knew that you would do that and never extended grace to you to begin with and I would be open to discussion on that - Don't know if it would be relevant though.
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eternally-gratefull
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Saul was washed by God.
He tells us so himself
Col 2
Titus 3
And many other places.
Stop replacing the work of God with the work of men, God calls that the unpardonable sin.
If man could keep any commandment Christ would not have left heaven to die on the cruel cross of Calvary. It is finished. It is not begun but wholly done.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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kennethcadwell
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No God does not lie, even Jesus said some would fall away and also be fooled by the anti-Christ to follow him instead of Christ. You can not fall away or be fooled to follow another if you were not already saved and followed Christ in the first place. Plus like I mentioned before Hebrews 10:26 it is talking about those who were saved but now are falling away through willful sin. No remorse, conviction, and no repentance.
Cassius...maybe your age has you confused.....it has everything to do with what we are talking about as he constantly contradicts scripture such as yourself......OH WAIT...you never post scripture...I forgot!
You post "will work" According to this thread's title, salvation is ONLY possible WITHOUT works. So are you trying to get one lost doing works?
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eternally-gratefull
Guest
If I turn my back on God and no longer believe him, I was never saved. John makes his clear.
If I can lose my salvation in any way. I must earn it. And God lied.
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eternally-gratefull
Guest
this makes no sense.
The thread speaks about how one is saved, Not what happens after one is saved.
Your twisting things again
if after we believe on him and we choose to later deny...he cannot deny himself......I disagree with your stand....
Great demonstration of you lack of contextual understanding. You pull out a fragment of a verse and build your doctrine upon it without considering what it is saying. Paul is most certainly not teaching that grace can be received in vain. Wow you really are unbelievable.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Can you imagine.....a free gift having stipulations......not a free gift if it is attached to hoops to jump through!
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eternally-gratefull
Guest
No.
Your contradicting yourself
if I can fall away, it means I must earn Gods grace by not falling away. That is a salvation of works.
The context of hebrews is the law of moses. Which says if you sin, you must make a sacrifice again.
If we are under law (which is what the author was speaking against) we would lose salvation if we sinned. Because the blood of bulls and goats can not remove sin, And Christ already died once, he will nto come and die again.
ps bro. there is no such thing as unwilful sin, If yuo sin, You did it willfully. Don;t try to full yourself into thinking you can sin by accident
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eternally-gratefull
Guest
of course there are many impostors in the church who act saved, yet have never known God
We usually eventually see who they are, as they walk away and return to their vomit. (sin)