Saved by faith alone. A surmised understanding?

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Lamar said:
Are you implying "universal grace"?
It seems you are.

Grace without obedience?
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No i do not support universal grace.. There are two things one must have to be saved..

1) One must believe Jesus, Believe His message / teachings are truth and good..

2) One must trust that the Atonement Jesus secured on the Cross secures for them forgiveness for all their sins and thus justifying their entery into The LORDs perfect eternal existence..

Of course sadly there are millions of people walking around now who either have rejected the teachings of Jesus or they do not trust in the atonement Jesus provided so these people will not be being saved even when they cry LORD LORD on the day of judgement and boast about there many wonderful works..
 
TolworthJohn said:
There are as Eph 2:
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

It clearly says. We are saved through or by faith, that we are not saved by good works.

Good works, obedience to the law etc etc are what we use to show that we have faith and that we love Jesus.
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refers to redemption not eternal salvation

vs 1 quickend or brought to the life of grace not eternal salvation

Jn 10:10 grace not eternal salvation

Jn 14:6 life not eternal salvation

no eternal salvation till we abide in Christ Jn 15:1-6 and endure to the end mt 10:22 and are Judged worthy of eternal life!

Acts 10:42
And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick anddead.

2 Timothy 4:1
I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and thedead at his appearing and his kingdom;

thks
 
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