Scientists for God here?

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I am interested in it if here are some scientists who believe sincerely in God although their friends from work are followers of evolution.

How can you stand this rising pressure from environment of evolutionists?
 
Anna,
I will never forget a lecture I heard on evolution in a anthropology class at UNC-ch. The instructor allowed a Christian response to the views on evolution. A case was made by a student at the medical school. He said there are two scientific problems with the higher order jump in species that evolution depends on. One is that in every case where a cross species offspring occured in nature , the offspring is infertile. for example, a donkey and a horse mate and produce a mule which is infertile. The second problem is that evolution contridicts the second law of thermodynamics that randomness is increasing. Thought you might like this
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I just thought i'd reply for all of us who are on the flip side of the coin;

The theory of Evolution has been built up from evidence, experimentation and to this day hundreds of scientific discoveries that back it up. None of these facts have ever been disproved, and it has enabled us to understand the world as a continuing progression of nature.

Common sense says: if we see small changes today within species, that small changes over a long time will become large changes. Walking for a minute gets you across the street. Walking for a year gets you across a continent. When people say "macroevolution is false because we've never seen it in our lifetimes", that's like saying "walking across a continent is impossible because we've never seen someone do it in a day." A LOT can happen in a million years.

Paleontology and the fossil record completely support evolution. The theory of evolution even predicts some fossils before we find them. Any good scientific theory makes many predictions. Here's a good example of a prediction made by evolution that then came true:

Tiktaalik roseae: The Search for Tiktaalik

The paleontologist and Pentecostal preacher Robert Bakker predicted (based on evolutionary theory) that we'd find feathered dinosaurs, and sure enough, we did!

Fortunately, you don't have to surrender faith to accept evolution. Here are 12,000 enlightened Christian clergy who accept evolution as a foundational truth of our origins:

The Clergy Letter Project

Evolution is a wonderful insight into such a beautiful and complex world full of amazing creatures who are able to survive in miraculous ways. If you believe that this was God's doing, He truly did a great job.
 
Evolution is an invention and never happen they want us to believe.
Would you believe that an airbus a380 would be created by coincidence?
By the way the a380 is dead how much more effort would it cost to make a complex thing alive?
You have been brainwashed !


Romans 1:22
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools
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Christian scientist find each other & stick together. Many have signed a statement to show their disagreement with evolution.
 
The paleontologist and Pentecostal preacher Robert Bakker predicted (based on evolutionary theory) that we'd find feathered dinosaurs, and sure enough, we did!
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Where?! I must have missed that news story. I do remember hearing something about finding fossils that scientists postulated might have had feathers. Your statement about "facts" is totally misleading and, frankly, just not true. Bones are a fact. Really old bones are an undeniable fact. How they were knit together, and what muscle, skin, etc. surrounded them is all speculation. They may be based on "best guess" knowledge, but as far as I know, no one has ever produced a photograph of a dinosaur.

Furthermore, Charles Darwin, himself, stated that in order for his theory (note that word0 of evolution to be proven conclusively, we should find evidence of "bridge species"; those that resulted when evolution was only partway complete. That evidence has never been discovered.

Please understand that I am not attacking you personally. You are, no doubt, a victim of the modern educational system which presents items as "fact" when they are really just a compilation of theories put forth by scientists who are taking bigger "leaps of faith" than most Christians.

So my answer to you and your "facts" when you say, for example, that man evolved from primates would be "prove it"; not with theories but with real facts,

Isn't this fun? ;)
 
You won't find anyone who adheres to the current predominant scientific framework who is going to believe in God, creation, let alone be anywhere near open to the idea.


The current predominant scientific framework is often called "Scientism". (note: scientism isn't an official term)


"It(scientism) is the view that science is the very paradigm of truth and rationality. IF something does not square with currently well-establsihed scientific beliefs, if it is not within the domain of entities appropriate for scientific (that is, empiracle) investigation, or if it is not amenable to scientific methodology, then it is not true or rational. Everything outside of science is a matter of mere belief and subjective opinion, of which rational assessment is impossible. Science, exclusively and ideally, is our model of intellectual excellence." (Philosophy Made Slightly Less Difficult, p.134-135)



Couple that with a commitment to philosophical naturalism, and all an atheist has to do is say, "while I do not know or understand how X can be, I know it cannot be non-natural in origin".


Granted, scienticism is self-refuting since the claim itself is a philosophical one (doh!). That still leaves philosophical naturalism. God being non-natural, is outruled as a possibility from the outset. Let alone any notion of creative power.


Note:Anyone and anything that doesn't adhere to the above, would be labeled as "psuedoscience" by those who are adherents.
 
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As I go about my day in wonder at the material world, I am grateful for the Genesis account God has given me to believe.

It's not about how 'dust' is cobbled together and 'comes alive', but about spiritual light, grace, love and power of unspeakable beauty as it continuously creates, motivates, sustains and loves, and is visible in the way things are formed. That's worth study.

Christian science is science with the light on.
 
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