SECOND CHANCE 1000 YR

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My goodness you have some strange belief Jesus is not King now but The High Priest
[h=3]2 Timothy 4[/h]King James Version (KJV)

1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

yes, i get the sense there are many still in the domain of darkness.
i do not know from whence you are.

Colossians 1
12giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified us to share in the inheritance of the saints in Light. 13For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son, 14in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
 
When David was anoited King When did he became king and took up his kingly role ?

I found these scriptures on David :


Da’vid (well-beloved), the son of Jesse. His life may be divided into three portions:

1. His youth before his introduction to the court of Saul; 2. His relations with Saul; 3. His reign.

1. The early life of David contains in many important respects the antecedents of his future career. It appears that David was the youngest son, probably the youngest child, of a family of ten, and was born in Bethlehem b.c. 1085. The first time that David appears in history at once admits us to the whole family circle. The annual sacrificial feast is being held when Samuel appears, sent by God to anoint one of Jesse’s sons as king of Israel in place of Saul. 1 Sam. 16:1. Rejecting the elder sons as they pass before him, 16:6-10, Samuel sends for the youngest, David, who was “keeping the sheep,” and anoints him. 1 Sam. 16:11-13. As David stood before Samuel we are enabled to fix his appearance at once in our minds. He was of short stature, with red or auburn hair, such as is not unfrequently seen in his countrymen of the East at the present day. In later life he wore a beard. His bright eyes are specially mentioned, 1 Sam. 16:12, and generally he was remarkable for the grace of his figure and countenance (“fair of eyes,” “comely,” “goodly,” 1 Sam. 16:12, 18; 17:42), well made, and of immense strength and agility. His swiftness and activity made him like a wild gazelle, his feet like hart’s feet, and his arms strong enough to break a bow of steel. Ps. 18:33, 34. After the anointing David resumes his accustomed duties, and the next we know of him he is summoned to the court to chase away the king’s madness by music, 1 Sam. 16:14-19, and in the successful effort of David’s harp we have the first glimpse into that genius for music and poetry which was afterwards consecrated in the Psalms. After this he returned to the old shepherd life again. One incident alone of his solitary shepherd life has come down to us—his conflict with the lion and the bear in defence of his father’s flocks. 1 Sam. 17:34, 35. It was some years after this that David suddenly appears before his brothers in the camp of the army, and hears the defiant challenge of the Philistine giant Goliath. With his shepherd’s sling and five small pebbles he goes forth and defeats the giant. 1 Sam. 17:40-51.

2. Relations with Saul.—We now enter on a new aspect of David’s life. The victory over Goliath had been a turning-point of his career. Saul inquired his parentage, and took him finally to his court. Jonathan was inspired by the beautiful friendship which bound the two youths together to the end of their lives. Unfortunately David’s fame proved the foundation of that unhappy jealousy of Saul towards him which, mingling with the king’s constitutional malady, poisoned his whole future relations to David. His position in Saul’s court seems to have been first armor-bearer, 1 Sam. 16:21; 18:2, then captain over a thousand, 18:13, and finally, on his marriage with Michal, the king’s second daughter, he was raised to the high office of captain of the king’s body-guard, second only, if not equal, to Abner, the captain of the host, and Jonathan, the heir apparent. David was now chiefly known for his successful exploits against the Philistines, by one of which he won his wife, and drove back the Philistine power with a blow from which it only rallied at the disastrous close of Saul’s reign. He also still performed from time to time the office of minstrel; but the successive attempts of Saul upon his life convinced him that he was in constant danger. He had two faithful allies, however, in the court—the son of Saul, his friend Jonathan, and the daughter of Saul, his wife Michal. Warned by the one and assisted by the other, he escaped by night, and was from thenceforward a fugitive. He at first found a home at the court of Achish, among the Philistines; but his stay was short. Discovered possibly by “the sword of Goliath,” his presence revived the national enmity of the Philistines against their former conqueror, and he only escaped by feigning madness. 1 Sam. 21:13. His first retreat was the cave of Adullam. In this vicinity he was joined by his whole family, 1 Sam. 22:1, and by a motley crowd of debtors and discontented men, 22:2, which formed the nucleus of his army. David’s life for the next few years was made up of a succession of startling incidents. He secures an important ally in Abiathar, 1 Sam. 23:6; his band of 400 at Adullam soon increased to 600, 23:13; he is hunted by Saul from place to place like a partridge. 1 Sam. 23:14, 22, 25-29; 24:1-22; 26. He marries Abigail and Ahinoam. 1 Sam. 25:42, 43. Finally comes the news of the battle of Gilboa and the death of Saul and Jonathan. 1 Sam. 31. The reception of the tidings of the death of his rival and of his friend, the solemn mourning, the vent of his indignation against the bearer of the message, the pathetic lamentation that followed, will close the second period of David’s life. 2 Sam. 1:1-27.

3. David’s reign.—

1. As king of Judah at Hebron, 7½ years. 2 Sam. 2:1-5:5. Here David was first formally anointed king. 2 Sam. 2:4. To Judah his dominion was nominally confined. Gradually his power increased, and during the two years which followed the elevation of Ish-bosheth a series of skirmishes took place between the two kingdoms. Then rapidly followed the successive murders of Abner and of Ish-bosheth. 2 Sam. 3:30; 4:5. The throne, so long waiting for him, was now vacant, and the united voice of the whole people at once called him to occupy it. For the third time David was anointed king, and a festival of three days celebrated the joyful event. 1 Chron. 12:39. One of David’s first acts after becoming king was to secure Jerusalem, which he seized from the Jebusites and fixed the royal residence there. Fortifications were added by the king and by Joab, and it was known by the special name of the “city of David.” 2 Sam. 5:9; 1 Chron. 11:7. The ark was now removed from its obscurity at Kirjath-jearim with marked solemnity, and conveyed to Jerusalem.

The erection of the new capital at Jerusalem introduces us to a new era in David’s life and in the history of the monarchy. He became a king on the scale of the great Oriental sovereigns of Egypt and Persia, with a regular administration and organization of court and camp; and he also founded an imperial dominion which for the first time realized the prophetic description of the bounds of the chosen people. Gen. 15:18-21. During the succeeding ten years the nations bordering on his kingdom caused David more or less trouble, but during this time he reduced to a state of permanent subjection the Philistines on the west, 2 Sam. 8:1; the Moabites on the east, 2 Sam. 8:2, by the exploits of Benaiah, 2 Sam. 23:20; the Syrians on the northeast as far as the Euphrates, 2 Sam. 8:3; the Edomites, 2 Sam. 8:14, on the south; and finally the Ammonites, who had broken their ancient alliance, and made one grand resistance to the advance of his empire. 2 Sam. 10:1-19; 12:26-31.

Three great calamities may be selected as marking the beginning, middle, and close of David’s otherwise prosperous reign, which appear to be intimated in the question of Gad, 2 Sam. 24:13, “a three-years famine, a three-months flight, or a three-days pestilence.” a. Of these the first (the three-years famine) introduces us to the last notices of David’s relations with the house of Saul, already referred to. b. The second group of incidents contains the tragedy of David’s life, which grew in all its parts out of the polygamy, with its evil consequences, into which he had plunged on becoming king. Underneath the splendor of his last glorious campaign against the Ammonites was a dark story, known probably at that time only to a very few—the double crime of adultery with Bath-sheba and the virtual murder of Uriah. The clouds from this time gathered over David’s fortunes, and henceforward “the sword never departed from his house.” 2 Sam. 12:10. The outrage on his daughter Tamar, the murder of his eldest son Amnon, and then the revolt of his best-beloved, Absalom, brought on the crisis which once more sent him forth a wanderer, as in the days when he fled from Saul. 2 Sam. 15:18. The final battle of Absalom’s rebellion was fought in the “forest of Ephraim,” and terminated in the accident which led to the young man’s death; and, though nearly heart-broken at the loss of his son, David again reigned in undisturbed peace at Jerusalem. 2 Sam. 20:1-22. c. The closing period of David’s life, with the exception of one great calamity, may be considered as a gradual preparation for the reign of his successor. This calamity was the three-days pestilence which visited Jerusalem at the warning of the prophet Gad. The occasion which led to this warning was the census of the people taken by Joab at the king’s orders, 2 Sam. 24:1-9; 1 Chron. 21:1-7; 27:23, 24, which was for some reason sinful in God’s sight. 2 Sam. 24. A formidable conspiracy to interrupt the succession broke out in the last days of David’s reign; but the plot was stifled, and Solomon’s inauguration took place under his father’s auspices. 1 Kings 1:1-53. By this time David’s infirmities had grown upon him. His last song is preserved—a striking union of the ideal of a just ruler which he had placed before him and of the difficulties which he had felt in realizing it. 2 Sam. 23:1-7. His last words to his successor are general exhortations to his duty. 1 Kings 2:1-9. He died, according to Josephus, at the age of 70, and “was buried in the city of David.” After the return from the captivity, “the sepulchres of David” were still pointed out “between Siloah and the house of the mighty men,” or “the guard-house.” Neh. 3:16. His tomb, which became the general sepulchre of the kings of Judah, was pointed out in the latest times of the Jewish people. The edifice shown as such from the Crusades to the present day is on the southern hill of modern Jerusalem, commonly called Mount Zion, under the so-called “Cœnaculum”; but it cannot be identified with the tomb of David, which was emphatically within the walls.
 
yes, i get the sense there are many still in the domain of darkness.
i do not know from whence you are.

Colossians 1
12giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified us to share in the inheritance of the saints in Light. 13For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son, 14in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Are we in that Kindom or is it a figure of speech ? Do we have eternal life now ?
 
Revelation is in the apocalyptic genre, as you know.
it uses symbolic imagery to convey literal truths. anyone who argues this simple point is wasting time.

the bottomless pit is a symbol for satan's "binding"

(he MIGHT be in a literal bottomless pit (i doubt it) - but it doesn't tell us he can't act...does it - no...it says: he can NOT DECEIVE THE NATIONS...that's all it says....now we need to know what is meant by THAT).

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as well as trying to understand John's VISIONS (shown in SYMBOLS) its helpful to see what Jesus actually said (and to know what 1st century Jews believed and were doing):

Matthew 12
28"But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. 29"Or how can anyone enter the strong man's house and carry off his property, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house. 30"He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me scatters.

- But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God...did He? YES.
- then the kingdom of God has come upon you....did he mean it? YES.
- how can anyone enter the strong man's house and carry off his property, unless he first binds the strong man...what was the subject? SATAN....is jesus saying He "bound" the strong man SATAN? - YES.
- how can anyone enter the strong man's house and carry off his property, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house....was Jesus plundering SATAN's house? - YES.



are you going to respond to my first answer to your first question?
i don't want to waste time.

Is the new Jerusalem literal ir sybolic ?

What about the lake of fire ?
 
Are we in that Kindom or is it a figure of speech ? Do we have eternal life now ?

Nope. Eternal life is given at the resurrection. God speaks to it as if it is done...

Isa 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

And at the resurrection it will be done.
 
which i addressed. which you passed over to ask:

so is David resurrected in the first Resurrection or the second (rev.20;4-5),,,but then in (acts 2;34) states he was not yet resurrected but still in the grave(acts 2;29),,,but then he was not "beheaded" so then he will be raised after the mill. in the 2nd if this is true,,,,

so i asked if you were going to address Jesus Christ saying:

the Kingdom of God had come upon them- the Pharisees He was in conflict with - they accused Him of casting out devils by Beelzebub

- the subject was SATAN.

He said He had bound up the strong man, and was plundering his house.

i wondered if you believe Jesus was referring to binding SATAN

- since the subject was casting out demons from possessed people; was he plundering SATAN's house?

that's all.....:) no offense taken.
just wanted to establish IF there was any indication from Jesus that satan had been BOUND in some fashion.

Revelation uses symbolic language.

if the thousand years is a symbolic term, signifying the Messianic Era, and Jesus said He had bound up the strong man satan and was plundering his house, did Jesus mean to say He had bound satan in some way?

yes i do think Azazal,the devil is bound this is what he refers to when he says "the days will come when you desire to see one of the days of the son of man,and you shall not see it",,,
 
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yes i do think Azazal,the devil is bound is bound this is what he refers to when he says "the days will come when you desire to see one of the days of the son of man,and you shall not see it",,,


Are you sayong the scape goat in leviticus 16 is a symbol of the devil ? Why or Why not ?

Thankies
 
Are you sayong the scape goat in leviticus 16 is a symbol of the devil ? Why or Why not ?

Thankies

Azazel=the strong one in hebrew,,compare to luke 17;20 "without observation",,,that is mankind awaits a kingdom they can see and touch(carnal),,,but it is "without observation",,,
 
Enoch 1 wat that is not part of the bible

Have you ever read leviticus 16 ?

you are right - Jesus was the scapegoat. don't let anyone attribute that work to satan.
satan has no place in redemption;.

Leviticus 16:22
'And the Goat shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a Land not inhabited.'

Isaiah 53:4
“Surely he hath borne our Griefs, and carried our Sorrows; Yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of GOD, and afflicted.'

Isaiah 53:6b
the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all.
 
Hi,RuthHannah. I Will Answer Both Of Your Questions. 1st Would Persons Be Saved During The 1000 Y,? And Can Persons Be Saved AFTER 1000 Y ?.... 2nd Are The Wicked Resurrected During The 1000 Y,. The Answer Is YES. For As Long As Satan Is In Existens , People Will Have A Chance To Be Saved, Even At The Little Time Where satan Will be Loose , If they are Not Be Deceive By Him,They Will remain In LIFE, After that the Enemy Is Gone For Good, Every One Has Learn His Lesson Not To disobey GOD Again...Note John 5:28-29,..Please NO raigncheck For Later ,They have their Chance NOW........God Bless./..
 
Enoch 1 wat that is not part of the bible

Have you ever read leviticus 16 ?

as you know if by now you have researched "Azazel" it even among scholars is very unclear because of the fact that it seems to be referring to "Christ" as the scapegoat as well as "the devil",,so it's very confusing because of the way that tis was always interpreted.(bear in mind when i stated the term"Azazel",i was answering a "?" ask to me by zone in reference to the binding of satin,that is if i believed he was bound),,,

so then if we go back to the scriptures she quoted from Matthew 12,,,but look at matt.12;39-45,,,it answers the same question we all seem to be asking and ties in with lev.16(Christ,the devil and the desert,even he is the eight,out of the pit),,,Christ is ask for a sign in verse 38,,then he states in verse 39-40 that the only sign was the sign of Jonas and that he would be 3 day and 3 nights "in the earth",,so we know he is referring to him being crucified,,,

then in 43-45(i will cap this,I'm not screaming but Christ explains lev.16),,,,"WHEN THE UNCLEAN SPIRIT(devil)IS GONE OUT OF A MAN(human),"HE" (the unclean spirit) WALKETH THROUGH DRY PLACES(the desert the scapegoat was sent to take something),SEEKING REST HE FINDETH NONE." THEN HE(the unclean spirit) SAITH,I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT(the human man,he will re-posses); AND WHEN HE COME(REV.17;8) HE FINDETH IT EMPTY,SWEPT,AND GARNISHED.(cleansed by the atonement).

THEN GOETH HE(the unclean spirit),AND TAKETH WITH HIMSELF(the unclean spirit) SEVEN OTHER SPIRITS(rev.17;10/unclean spirit+7=8,,,so the unclean spirit and 7 others is also 8 are loosed rev.20;7) MORE WICKED THAN HIMSELF,AND THEY ENTER IN AND DWELL THERE:AND THE LAST OF THAT MAN(human)IS WORST THAN THE FIRST. EVEN SHALL IT BE ALSO UNTO THIS WICKED GENERATION.

so the sins of the world were put on Christ,the works of the devil(lev.16;8) and he was crucified and then in the bowels of hell(desert place),,and bound the devil(in the bottomless pit) at that time. and he shall be loosed for a little season(after the mill.reign),and come also with 7 other spirits(even he is the 8th),,,this is symbolic of the binding of the binding of the devil in the pit and is why i answered zone in that manner,that is she was asking me if i agreed there was "some type of binding" that Christ was referring to in matt.12.

now i prefer the definition of this given by Christ in matt.12;43-45,as you can tell. now in those days even the Hebrews seemed to not understand how to translate the word "Azazel",,in the kjv it is rendered scapegoat or "goat that escapes", and through the ages it has been examined Origen also identifies Azazel as satin,,,but as i stated i prefer Christ opinion that is he was taking the devil and binding him in the dry place during his mill. rein on earth while in the grave for 3 days,,,
 
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Leviticus 16
21"Then Aaron shall lay both of his hands on the head of the live goat, and confess over it all the iniquities of the sons of Israel and all their transgressions in regard to all their sins; and he shall lay them on the head of the goat and send it away into the wilderness by the hand of a man who stands in readiness. 22"The goat shall bear on itself all their iniquities to a solitary land; and he shall release the goat in the wilderness. 23"Then Aaron shall come into the tent of meeting and take off the linen garments which he put on when he went into the holy place, and shall leave them there.

are you really suggesting satan was involved here.
like....in the work of atonement and brought without blemish before The Lord and the high priest confessing sins of the people over him...

no....not really.
really:confused: