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Seducing spirits and doctrines of demons?
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I am a firm believer in church discipline for those that are in leadership with the offending minister and part of that discipline is also a time for restoration. This is not an endorsement of what they did that was wrong or off.
There is always so much stuff done in the flesh and it is wrong to be sure. That is a product of immaturity in Christ and trying to "make things happen by our fleshly responses and actions".
I don't know this man's ministry nor have I listen to him before but here is a video where they are talking about the wrong that they have done.
They are talking about sinning here. I know there are also ones that talk about the "ministry" part too. But I wanted to show this that we should be looking for restoration in things with others.
[video=youtube;MHDHedCkjzo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHDHedCkjzo[/video]
There is always so much stuff done in the flesh and it is wrong to be sure. That is a product of immaturity in Christ and trying to "make things happen by our fleshly responses and actions".
I don't know this man's ministry nor have I listen to him before but here is a video where they are talking about the wrong that they have done.
They are talking about sinning here. I know there are also ones that talk about the "ministry" part too. But I wanted to show this that we should be looking for restoration in things with others.
[video=youtube;MHDHedCkjzo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHDHedCkjzo[/video]
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Before someone comes up with the "dizzy" circles...what I mean is there are certain ministries that have meetings together.
Todd has meetings with those I listen to.
Todd has meetings with those I listen to.
If he acts in the same fleshly way if he is back in ministry again - then he hasn't really been restored yet nor matured in the Lord yet.
( I know there are "some" genuine manifestations of the Holy Spirit - I am not against those )
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Everyone has accused this couple of adultery...I'm not totally sure that is the truth.
I know she comforted him...he was under a lot of pressure...from the media, and from home.
Not making excuses, but I do believe in keeping to truth and not assuming.
I know she comforted him...he was under a lot of pressure...from the media, and from home.
Not making excuses, but I do believe in keeping to truth and not assuming.
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I seriously do not know how the likes of other false teachers could possibly have led Todd out of his gross and demonic rantings
I think you may have seen me around the forums abit? do I normally talk like this?
that's how strong I feel about it
and Joyner, IHOP and the rest of the fruit loops out in false prophecy land will have to answer for the harm and false leading of God's gullible (sadly) sheep
seems what the true manifestations of the Holy Spirit are vary quite a bit depending on who you ask
They both admitted it was wrong afterward when they looked at it with an open heart Now is the time for restoration.
Also...it's the ministry leaders that have the authority to rebuke and correct. Not us who are mostly pew sitters. Those who are in the fellowships that are tied together.
We all are just gossiping.
We all are just gossiping.
Yes, I know they admitted they were wrong for being together. But, adultery?
Are you sure Grace? I'm not.
Are you sure Grace? I'm not.
As I said before...I don't follow him. That is now. I did at one time.
I heard him say one thing that I didn't agree with. That was the end of my following him.
That was during Lakeland. I don't know what he teaches now, but I know who he runs with. I know the caliber of the people.
I heard him say one thing that I didn't agree with. That was the end of my following him.
That was during Lakeland. I don't know what he teaches now, but I know who he runs with. I know the caliber of the people.
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sevenseas
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He committed adultery with the woman he is currently married to
check it out
even good ole Joyner, a flase prophet himself, attests to it
this is not a rumor. this is a fact. solid like the ten commandments Moses broke
is no one outraged by gross sin anymore?
it's not just the adultery. It's the demonic angel he calls Emma that he states God gave him. Now, he has recanted that and calls people who point that out to him that he never said Emma was a female angel.
do you know he claimed 30 people were raised from the dead at the Lakeside circus? I know people died, but nobody lived.
I saw this documentary on tv but here it is on youtube. its a documentary...not a youtube heresy hunter special
[video=youtube;UDEsXVUQeLo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDEsXVUQeLo[/video]
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sevenseas
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I see
Grace you will believe but apparently not me
you go then
you do realize that is even a matter of public record?
too much and too sad
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sevenseas
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by your definition I do have the right to judge
that's all I'm gonna say
each and every Christian is supposed to be equipped to know the truth and discern error
that, is something you might need to work on
further, this man had no one over him, you need to get acquainted with the history
I'll get off your case now cause I don't think it will make a diff anyway
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No, I don't know it was public. I know what I myself heard them say. Which I'm not saying here.
And I think this is done for me.
Except...don't limit the grace of God. That's it.
And I have no idea what you mean about believing Grace but not you. Sounds a bit childish to me.
And I think this is done for me.
Except...don't limit the grace of God. That's it.
And I have no idea what you mean about believing Grace but not you. Sounds a bit childish to me.
You are totally off what really happened Samuel.
Gossip is as bad as adultery. It kills...maybe worse since it "catches fire" so quickly.
Gossip is as bad as adultery. It kills...maybe worse since it "catches fire" so quickly.
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sevenseas
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you know, she wasn't even all that hot
as for the tattoos, they scream demonic as far as I am concerned. I honestly would not bother about a few, even though I don't care to have one myself, but the guy could not make his actual spirit more apparent if he tattooed I am deceived on his forehead...deceived and deceiving others
call me old fashionned LOL!