Seeking Answers part 2!

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Seeker47 said:
I share your concerns. If "The Trinity" is ment to be three manifestations of God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, I can get along with that. (In my study, there are more than three manifestations but I'm not hung up on that issue). I cannot find in all my reading that there are only three manifestations and especially that they are all co-equal.

I'll may join you on both the banned list and in the "No Harp" group.
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Thanks for chiming in guys! I hoped you two won't get banned, I know In still new but I think a discussion without anyone purposely being disrespectful is healthy. But who am I lol I'm still a noob here.

I do appreciate your input though, (Suze you too), because its comforting to know others also have similar questions and/or thoughts (It least in regard to the Trinity here I mean).

This honestly helps me because of you can accept Jesus in spite of this, maybe I can get there too and who knows, maybe ill three of us can get to them Trinity in the future.

Thanks so much guys!
 
Suze said:
I have read the Bible very many times over the last 30 years and I still struggle with the concept of the trinity , I'm just not convinced of it and I can't find enough evidence in there to convince me . I for sure except that God has given all things into Jesus hands and that Jesus is now a divine being , but I believe that he was human and received the Spirit of God without measure which is how he was able to do all the things that he did and know all the things that he knew when he was here on earth . As far as am aware ( and I may be wrong ) my understanding is that the trinity is a catholic doctrine and that in itself is a turn off for me . I'm happy to admit that I might have it wrong and maybe the trinity is true but , at this time it's not something that I can get my head around . I felt I needed to come clean and state this about myself , if I get banned then so b it . If I don't get banned I can assure everyone that I won't harp on about my beliefs on this subject .
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Thanks Suze, sorry I commented on another post below so not sure if you get notified?

I hope my question doesn't cause any issues. I really appreciate your response and I said down below thay it actually helps me feel comfortable that if you can accept Jesus while still feeling this way, maybe I can get there too.

Thanks so much!
 
I am at my coffee shop having my first cup coffee for the day ... And I had thought of a few things to say to you so I hope I can remember them all LOL at my age that gets a little tricky at times anyway... You speak of struggling to believe while my struggle was I did not want to believe ... but it became increasingly obvious to me over time that the truth had been presented to me and it would be foolish of me not to accept it. No I'm not talking about all those times when the gospel may have been preached to me as a child while I was still going to the Catholic Church... I don't mean that at all ... I mean after God had revealed Himself to me a number of times in a number of ways... And as I mentioned before it was while I was attending the alpha course, it occurred to me that it was geared to convincing people of the truth of God's revealed written word and then I rather suddenly realized I needed no more convincing... So that was definitely a turning point for me.

Investigating things like the council of naicea before I became a believer? I don't really think I did that, and even after becoming a believer, of course I come across things like that being talked about from time to time, as I have been engaged in apologetics now for about 18 years I think, but there are a lot of old dead guys who have said and decided and written a lot of things that really don't have a huge impact me even though they may have shaped thinking in a more broader sense... and I can agree with parts of what they say ... but what they have said doesn't mean as much or impart to me as much as what I get out of Scripture itself.

Yes you have mentioned your ADHD before and how your thinking process gets very granular ... into the minutia, and I can relate to that a little bit, not that I have ADHD (that I know of!), but that I can be very analytical... but the thing with this whole process is you have to let things percolate and settle ... and it is very much like the agricultural parables that Jesus told ... a seed has been planted... it has to be given time to be allowed to grow. And it will! So try not to fuss over it. This is how we find our rest in Jesus ... you will eventually... You will not have to agonize over every little thing ... you can come to a point where your faith/acceptance is so all encompesing that what scientists say or any new discoveries or anything else going on in the world will not shake your faith as you come to know yourself for who you are in God, and Who God is.

Do please excuse any run-on sentences and poor punctuation or lack of capitalization, as I'm on my phone and those things are not easy to edit in continually.
 
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