Selling Abortions

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Roughsoul1991

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Published on Mar 12, 2017



Sex Education Sells Abortions We Created Demand for Abortion by Pushing Sex Ed on Kids’ Carol Everet former abortion provider running four abortion clinics explains how and why they went into the schools to teach sex education. Sex Education Sells Abortions. You have to break down their natural modesty. You have to become the kids expert in their lives and separate them from their parents and their values. So how do you do this?

(If you haven't seen this and cannot sit through 13 minutes then atleast listen to the first 3. Many people have left the pro choice pro abortion campaign including this woman. But this woman has some hard truth for all parents to hear.)


 
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tasha66

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I have cared for many women who have chosen to have abortions. I have had friends who have had 4 or more abortions, and didn't feel an ouce of guilt. I cared for a woman who claimed she had had about 30 - possibly more - abortions. She said in her country abortion was considered a form of 'contraception'.
It's not my job to judge these women. It's my job to give them all the alternatives, including changing their mind. I am in a non-judgemental profession. If we continue to judge women (or anybody else for that matter), then they won't come to us for help with anything. Many STI's (and other medical problems) can usually be solved with the right treatment, correct information and support. It is always better to use condoms to prevent serious ilnesses such as HIV/AIDS and Hep B, C etc. Nothing stops the spread of HPV (can be spread by warts on your hand or skin, and spread to the genital area accidentally, or on purpose via sex).
Contraception and sex education has a place in teaching young people - and everybody else. I've cared for women in their 50s that didn't understand about orgasms, or even about their own antomy, even when they've had children, and a woman who got pregnant when she thought she was going through menopause. She thought after a certain age she didn't need to use contraception anymore (I often wonder if she kept that baby....).
You can make money from selling anything - it's what our society is driven towards.
This woman says to kids go home and tell your parents?? Mate - not gonna happen! Kids would tell their mates or a favourite Aunty or health professional maybe, but not their parents, especially if they are religious parents.
What disturbs me is that nobody seems to highlight the psychological effects of having sex too early, when you aren't ready. Friends of mine told me they had sex at a very early age (for various reasons - poor parenting, being talked into it by their partner, etc), and it was devastating for them. And early pregnancies are a whole 'nother story, as they saying goes.
Fear and not telling your parents drives young girls into desperate situations - to get back yard abortions, etc.
The government should be supporting young girls (let alone older people) more with having their babies, or adopting them out, or caring for them in special homes, instead of supporting abortions, and this might lessen the abortion rate.
I'm only concerned that these girls get thrown out of their family home by outraged parents, and then get labelled 'sluts', even if they do choose to keep their baby.
It's a long standing and emotive issue to be sure, which won't be solved anytime soon.
 

Mii

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I have cared for many women who have chosen to have abortions. I have had friends who have had 4 or more abortions, and didn't feel an ouce of guilt. I cared for a woman who claimed she had had about 30 - possibly more - abortions. She said in her country abortion was considered a form of 'contraception'.
It's not my job to judge these women. It's my job to give them all the alternatives, including changing their mind. I am in a non-judgemental profession. If we continue to judge women (or anybody else for that matter), then they won't come to us for help with anything. Many STI's (and other medical problems) can usually be solved with the right treatment, correct information and support. It is always better to use condoms to prevent serious ilnesses such as HIV/AIDS and Hep B, C etc. Nothing stops the spread of HPV (can be spread by warts on your hand or skin, and spread to the genital area accidentally, or on purpose via sex).
Contraception and sex education has a place in teaching young people - and everybody else. I've cared for women in their 50s that didn't understand about orgasms, or even about their own antomy, even when they've had children, and a woman who got pregnant when she thought she was going through menopause. She thought after a certain age she didn't need to use contraception anymore (I often wonder if she kept that baby....).
You can make money from selling anything - it's what our society is driven towards.
This woman says to kids go home and tell your parents?? Mate - not gonna happen! Kids would tell their mates or a favourite Aunty or health professional maybe, but not their parents, especially if they are religious parents.
What disturbs me is that nobody seems to highlight the psychological effects of having sex too early, when you aren't ready. Friends of mine told me they had sex at a very early age (for various reasons - poor parenting, being talked into it by their partner, etc), and it was devastating for them. And early pregnancies are a whole 'nother story, as they saying goes.
Fear and not telling your parents drives young girls into desperate situations - to get back yard abortions, etc.
The government should be supporting young girls (let alone older people) more with having their babies, or adopting them out, or caring for them in special homes, instead of supporting abortions, and this might lessen the abortion rate.
I'm only concerned that these girls get thrown out of their family home by outraged parents, and then get labelled 'sluts', even if they do choose to keep their baby.
It's a long standing and emotive issue to be sure, which won't be solved anytime soon.

Thank you for serving in this capacity.


I've heard the pro-abortion arguments that center around lack of care of the children that are born and I agree. These systems need a great deal more work and I question any "pro-life" politician that does not also address these issues.


I'm not saying that we should go for the "pragmatic solution" since these systems are not at all effective. Quite the contrary...I only mention that they do have a point in this regard. I would need to do more research into DFCS and orphanages (or whatever they are called now) to state for certain.

I think it would require people being better informed and it has not been talked about publicly in the media as far as I can tell, except in certain films (and these are dated). Conspiratorial angles aside...it could be brought to the fore if enough people were aware enough to be vocal about it.
 

Roughsoul1991

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I have cared for many women who have chosen to have abortions. I have had friends who have had 4 or more abortions, and didn't feel an ouce of guilt. I cared for a woman who claimed she had had about 30 - possibly more - abortions. She said in her country abortion was considered a form of 'contraception'.
It's not my job to judge these women. It's my job to give them all the alternatives, including changing their mind. I am in a non-judgemental profession. If we continue to judge women (or anybody else for that matter), then they won't come to us for help with anything. Many STI's (and other medical problems) can usually be solved with the right treatment, correct information and support. It is always better to use condoms to prevent serious ilnesses such as HIV/AIDS and Hep B, C etc. Nothing stops the spread of HPV (can be spread by warts on your hand or skin, and spread to the genital area accidentally, or on purpose via sex).
Contraception and sex education has a place in teaching young people - and everybody else. I've cared for women in their 50s that didn't understand about orgasms, or even about their own antomy, even when they've had children, and a woman who got pregnant when she thought she was going through menopause. She thought after a certain age she didn't need to use contraception anymore (I often wonder if she kept that baby....).
You can make money from selling anything - it's what our society is driven towards.
This woman says to kids go home and tell your parents?? Mate - not gonna happen! Kids would tell their mates or a favourite Aunty or health professional maybe, but not their parents, especially if they are religious parents.
What disturbs me is that nobody seems to highlight the psychological effects of having sex too early, when you aren't ready. Friends of mine told me they had sex at a very early age (for various reasons - poor parenting, being talked into it by their partner, etc), and it was devastating for them. And early pregnancies are a whole 'nother story, as they saying goes.
Fear and not telling your parents drives young girls into desperate situations - to get back yard abortions, etc.
The government should be supporting young girls (let alone older people) more with having their babies, or adopting them out, or caring for them in special homes, instead of supporting abortions, and this might lessen the abortion rate.
I'm only concerned that these girls get thrown out of their family home by outraged parents, and then get labelled 'sluts', even if they do choose to keep their baby.
It's a long standing and emotive issue to be sure, which won't be solved anytime soon.
If we continue to judge women (or anybody else for that matter), then they won't come to us for help with anything.
What do you consider judging? There is a difference between counseling and preaching. Preaching doesn't have the time or the one on one relationship to speak truth but yet they are stilled called to speak truth. In counseling the truth that abortion is murder still stands but the professional knows how to speak on such touchy subjects while still not denying truth.

Us as individual Christians should not shy from such truth. Of course we should be loving and stern when proclaiming even the hardest truth. And even then just as Jesus who was the sinless and perfect human being both divine and all truthful was still killed for sharing the truth. Not everyone will come. And we should pray for those who dont.


Contraception and sex education has a place in teaching young people - and everybody else.
The video at first glance may sound like that sex education is bad but that wasn't the idea. The idea was on the way these abortion clinics have been infiltrating our public and colleges to spread a sex education that counters what parents want their children to know.

This woman says to kids go home and tell your parents??
So should the parents just believe that they cannot build that relationship? This is largely a parent problem because parents are letting the culture and public education to talk and teach their kids about sex education. The parents must prepare for this by building a relationship where the child feels comfortable to seek their parents even in sexual questions and guidance. This means if the parents get mad at the first question then they may never come back.

This relationship isnt impossible. I have known parents that had that type of relationship and have even read books on this type of open, honest and loving relationship between parents and child.

She wants the kids to be trained when kids hear anything about sex education at school or around friends to feel safe enough to tell their parents as any other topic. It is only awkward if we teach it that way or act that way.

But God is clear on many issues including the design and intentions of sex but also the results of sexual immorality. We should be just as bold and confident to teach our kids with all truthfulness but also compassion and love.

The government should be supporting young girls (let alone older people) more with having their babies, or adopting them out, or caring for them in special homes, instead of supporting abortions,
Well first they should be promoting parents rights, and then only basic sex education but abstinence should be promoted and celebrated and not all the LGBT junk. LGBT knowledge should be left up to the parents.
But yes after that they should support life more over death.
 

Bingo

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"And, it is being witnessed of many 'events' that have been told of would come 'to be'.
Make no mistake, 'the end was known from the beginning' has a chilling reality, in the now."
~Thought to ponder~
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kaylagrl

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Published on Mar 12, 2017



Sex Education Sells Abortions We Created Demand for Abortion by Pushing Sex Ed on Kids’ Carol Everet former abortion provider running four abortion clinics explains how and why they went into the schools to teach sex education. Sex Education Sells Abortions. You have to break down their natural modesty. You have to become the kids expert in their lives and separate them from their parents and their values. So how do you do this?

(If you haven't seen this and cannot sit through 13 minutes then atleast listen to the first 3. Many people have left the pro choice pro abortion campaign including this woman. But this woman has some hard truth for all parents to hear.)


This is stunning to me!! Father help us. So glad this woman left the practice and that she is telling the truth.
 
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kaylagrl

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I have cared for many women who have chosen to have abortions. I have had friends who have had 4 or more abortions, and didn't feel an ouce of guilt. I cared for a woman who claimed she had had about 30 - possibly more - abortions. She said in her country abortion was considered a form of 'contraception'.
It's not my job to judge these women. It's my job to give them all the alternatives, including changing their mind. I am in a non-judgemental profession. If we continue to judge women (or anybody else for that matter), then they won't come to us for help with anything. Many STI's (and other medical problems) can usually be solved with the right treatment, correct information and support. It is always better to use condoms to prevent serious ilnesses such as HIV/AIDS and Hep B, C etc. Nothing stops the spread of HPV (can be spread by warts on your hand or skin, and spread to the genital area accidentally, or on purpose via sex).
Contraception and sex education has a place in teaching young people - and everybody else. I've cared for women in their 50s that didn't understand about orgasms, or even about their own antomy, even when they've had children, and a woman who got pregnant when she thought she was going through menopause. She thought after a certain age she didn't need to use contraception anymore (I often wonder if she kept that baby....).
You can make money from selling anything - it's what our society is driven towards.
This woman says to kids go home and tell your parents?? Mate - not gonna happen! Kids would tell their mates or a favourite Aunty or health professional maybe, but not their parents, especially if they are religious parents.
What disturbs me is that nobody seems to highlight the psychological effects of having sex too early, when you aren't ready. Friends of mine told me they had sex at a very early age (for various reasons - poor parenting, being talked into it by their partner, etc), and it was devastating for them. And early pregnancies are a whole 'nother story, as they saying goes.
Fear and not telling your parents drives young girls into desperate situations - to get back yard abortions, etc.
The government should be supporting young girls (let alone older people) more with having their babies, or adopting them out, or caring for them in special homes, instead of supporting abortions, and this might lessen the abortion rate.
I'm only concerned that these girls get thrown out of their family home by outraged parents, and then get labelled 'sluts', even if they do choose to keep their baby.
It's a long standing and emotive issue to be sure, which won't be solved anytime soon.


I have cared for many women who have chosen to have abortions. I have had friends who have had 4 or more abortions, and didn't feel an ouce of guilt. I cared for a woman who claimed she had had about 30 - possibly more - abortions. She said in her country abortion was considered a form of 'contraception'.
Its being used as contraception in this country.

It's not my job to judge these women...If we continue to judge women (or anybody else for that matter), then they won't come to us for help with anything.
I don't know anyone who is judging them. But they do need to be told the truth about abortion. They are being lied to, as the video clearly shows.


This woman says to kids go home and tell your parents?? Mate - not gonna happen! Kids would tell their mates or a favourite Aunty or health professional maybe, but not their parents, especially if they are religious parents.


I was raised in the church with religious parents and they made it clear I could come to them with anything. Parents need to be open with their children about sex and the church needs to start taking part in those discussions with parents and their children. Should have never given it into the hands of the school and the gov't. I have a nephew that is turning 15 this Christmas. I had a private talk with him about sex, about how easy it is to make a mistake,even if you are a Christian. I gave him mine and my husbands numbers to call "for any reason". I told if there was anything that he felt he couldn't call his parents for or talk to them about,come to us. My sister knows I've told him to come to me. Family needs to surround children and help them along the way. Not the gov't and school with their secular ideals.


Fear and not telling your parents drives young girls into desperate situations - to get back yard abortions, etc.


And how does abortion affect women, especially young women?! Mentally and physically? How many women have died from an abortion procedure? Abortion is not the answer.
 

Roughsoul1991

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This is stunning to me!! Father help us. So glad this woman left the practice and that she is telling the truth.
Yes it is very eye opening once people see this because it is happening all over the country and only local news or Christian pro life news organizations bring light to these issues. Most of these issues was done without parental consent or knowledge.
 
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kaylagrl

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Yes it is very eye opening once people see this because it is happening all over the country and only local news or Christian pro life news organizations bring light to these issues. Most of these issues was done without parental consent or knowledge.

Parents gave up their rights long ago. It makes me mad that they push these agendas.
 
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Thank you for sharing this heart-breaking video. Very important. Also, I just wanted to say thanks to Roughsoul1991 for your apologetics research and posts. I am grateful for brothers and sisters like you who have that talent. If I am ever challenged by an atheist, I always defer to people like you. Great job!
 
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Scary and so calculated, it is eye-opening, very predatory, devastating to hear.
 
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Published on Mar 12, 2017



Sex Education Sells Abortions We Created Demand for Abortion by Pushing Sex Ed on Kids’ Carol Everet former abortion provider running four abortion clinics explains how and why they went into the schools to teach sex education. Sex Education Sells Abortions. You have to break down their natural modesty. You have to become the kids expert in their lives and separate them from their parents and their values. So how do you do this?

(If you haven't seen this and cannot sit through 13 minutes then atleast listen to the first 3. Many people have left the pro choice pro abortion campaign including this woman. But this woman has some hard truth for all parents to hear.)


I think maybe this is short-sighted. Comprehensive sex education in developed countries actually lowers rates of unwanted pregnancy, particularly in teenagers. By a comparison, states in America with abstinence based sex-ed suffer the highest rate of teenage pregnancy in the country.
 

Roughsoul1991

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I think maybe this is short-sighted. Comprehensive sex education in developed countries actually lowers rates of unwanted pregnancy, particularly in teenagers. By a comparison, states in America with abstinence based sex-ed suffer the highest rate of teenage pregnancy in the country.
Well the article isnt about abstinence sex ed or the concept of sex ed. But the very fact that the abortion business have been selling abortions by infiltrating our public schools.

If you are speaking about which strategy is best to lower teenage pregnancy then that can be debated but you will have to provide data and facts. From a Biblical standpoint you must defend why if the Bible teaches abstinence then why is God's way not the best way.
 
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How about raising your kids right so that they understand it's not okay to have sex outside of marriage?
 

Butterflyyy

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Published on Mar 12, 2017



Sex Education Sells Abortions We Created Demand for Abortion by Pushing Sex Ed on Kids’ Carol Everet former abortion provider running four abortion clinics explains how and why they went into the schools to teach sex education. Sex Education Sells Abortions. You have to break down their natural modesty. You have to become the kids expert in their lives and separate them from their parents and their values. So how do you do this?

(If you haven't seen this and cannot sit through 13 minutes then atleast listen to the first 3. Many people have left the pro choice pro abortion campaign including this woman. But this woman has some hard truth for all parents to hear.)


May the Lord bless you for posting this.
Thank you.

"Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them" Ephesians 5:11