Correct! The scriptures come from God and Jesus Christ is The Word of God.
WHO gave us traditions? NOT God.
WHO should we follow… the Giver of the scriptures or the giver of traditions?
Should Christians Follow Scripture Alone or Scripture and Traditions?
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Correct! The scriptures come from God and Jesus Christ is The Word of God.
WHO gave us traditions? NOT God.
WHO should we follow… the Giver of the scriptures or the giver of traditions?
Jesus didn't give us any Scripture, He gave us His Church. Jesus never gave us anything in writing. In fact the old Testement was written by God's people, with inspiration from the Holy Spirit andk it was members of Jesus' Church that wrote Scripture, the New Testament, with inspiration and guidance from the Holy Spirit.
What Scripture do you think Jesus gave us?
Such a good point.
We can check on the NT by looking at the old testament. The NT is a fulfillment of the OT. A third of the NT is copied from the OT.
For the first 300 years after Christ scripture and church tradition was not added to, mostly. At 325 Constantine, Roman Emperor, called a Christian Council and told them that through the Holy Spirit they were given power to decide Christian traditions. They said their man made laws were God given laws.
A problem the church has had is with the law of Moses and the law of Christ. God gave Moses the law for us in fleshly terms like circumcision, and Christ changed the law into a spiritual law. The law remained the same. As an example, do not murder was true under Moses and Christ, but oh., what a change it made in that law.
God created us and our world and also the word. It is best not to change any of it. Man has decided to change our food--refine grain, process oil instead of pressing, and "improve" what our livestock eat. Even food left as God created it is good, when man improves it, it even sometimes kills us.
Paul was vague enough about what the traditions were that it allows people to sorta make up whatever they want. If the traditions are stated in the New Testament then I think they are good to follow, but otherwise a strict Biblical interpretation is needed.
Major problems with Sola Scriptura being the only source of God's truth and why it isn't a true doctrine is that, there was no canon of the Bible, Old and New Testament until 300 years after Christ. And, until the invention of the printing press in 1450, bibles were extremely scarce as they had to be hand copied. And don't forget, until the 1900s, almost all people were illiterate, couldn't read or write. What good would a Bible do for someone who couldn't read or write?
Yet, despite these problems, God's truth persevered throughout the centuries.
Yet, despite these problems, God's truth persevered throughout the centuries.
What do you mean by traditionCorrect! The scriptures come from God and Jesus Christ is The Word of God.
WHO gave us traditions? NOT God.
WHO should we follow… the Giver of the scriptures or the giver of traditions?
Man made law…
ALL denominations, all the man made laws of the Jewish Pharisees,… anytime man in his pride and human reasoning says, “this is the way! Do this!”
There’s NO LOVE! If it’s God, there should be LOVE.
Things that are practised and come to be seen as normal, comon and acceptable practices.
With time they become more and more accepted as right or true.
The RCC does not hold fast to the traditions of Paul. He taught and wrote to them sola scriptura.
Can you imagine Paul saying mass? dressed as Roman senator?
The bible is God's word written down ... God's word is to be found nowhere else.
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9 But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one: 10 To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the great power of God. 11 And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries. 12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. 13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
How Jesus give a church?
jesus give a teaching, and Mathew, Luke, mark and John make document
so the teaching or scripture is from Jesus
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You are saying the teachings of Jesus are now the scriptures and the scriptures are the writings in the documents of Matthew and Mark and the rest of the NT?
Paul wrote that letterHere is the Word of God telling us that, in addition to written epistles, the unwritten traditions orally handed down to the Church are to be faithfully held on to by the Church/Christians.
2 Thess 2:15
"Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
so tradition in that letter mean what Christian did before that letter being write
for example if he wrote in the year 57 AD mean we have to hold the Christian tradition or what Christian did from the year Christian born till the years 57, I don’t think thy do pray to Mary
I don’t think they teach purgatory