Sin daily?

[Freed18]

So Paul was not a Christian?

He was, after he was converted.
Don't you think that Paul was reborn of God's seed ?

 

[Freed18]

Yes and some have already become reprobate which is why the Lord inspired forum developers to discover the Ignore Button.

Some just have to learn the hard way which is a terrible way to spend eternity.

I seldom use the 'ignore' feature, thinking that after a while, "they" may actually come around to my way of thinking.
I just can't give up on anyone.

 

[ScooterJackson]

I seldom use the 'ignore' feature, thinking that after a while, "they" may actually come around to my way of thinking.
I just can't give up on anyone.

Yes of course, they're all called to come around to your way of thinking

Uh no, we are called to accept the Mind of Christ and come around to His way of thinking.

 

[Delvianna]

Where did you get that OT feasts will be celebrated in the new millenium ?
Do you realize that there IS a new testament ?

Scripture please.

I have the mind of Christ, something given to all the reborn.
Besides, since Eve and Adam ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, everyon knows what is bad.

There is nothing written about a millenial kingdom in Zech. 14...did you misquote the verse ?

I celebrate no pagan holidays...what are you writing about ?

The Mosaic Law simply codified what Eve and Adam opened up to us...the knowledge of good and evil.

If you feel it necessary to continue living as if Christ didn't live and die for us, go ahead.
Christians have been made free from the Law's bondage.
Paul writes..."And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you. " (Gal 2:4-5)

Again, you use words and I don't think you understand the usage of it. Bondage is being held to the laws consequences. Christ took that consequence. That doesn't mean we aren't held to any standard.

As far as Zechariah goes, its a prophecy. You have to study the chapter like you would Daniel. That's why I gave you the whole chapter and not 1 cherry picked verse. Is that all that scripture is to you? Cherry picked verses?

So you don't celebrate Christmas, Easter or Halloween?

 

[Freed18]

Yes of course, they're all called to come around to your way of thinking

Uh no, we are called to accept the Mind of Christ and come around to His way of thinking.

"We", (hopefully) just beat them to it.
I can wait for the stragglers.

 

[ScooterJackson]

I hear ya. Sometimes it's like fishing and if we aren't getting any bites we need to move on and fish someplace else.

 

[Freed18]

Again, you use words and I don't think you understand the usage of it. Bondage is being held to the laws consequences. Christ took that consequence. That doesn't mean we aren't held to any standard.

I am glad you cleared that up.
Christ took away more that disobeying the Law's consequences.
He took away our lust to disobey HIM.
Loving God and neighbor perfectly allows us to fulfill the OT Law's heart/core.

As far as Zechariah goes, its a prophecy. You have to study the chapter like you would Daniel. That's why I gave you the whole chapter and not 1 cherry picked verse. Is that all that scripture is to you? Cherry picked verses?

For some reason, I only looked at one verse, so was unaware you meant the entire chapter...my bad.
So I see a mentioning o,fthe feast of tabernacles.
But verse 18 of Zech 14, says the threat is against the heathens; not those reborn of God's seed.

So you don't celebrate Christmas, Easter or Halloween?

Ugh...not a chance.
I celebrate the birth and resurrection of Christ Jesus every day, with a life devoted to His love.

 

[Freed18]

I hear ya. Sometimes it's like fishing and if we aren't getting any bites we need to move on and fish someplace else.

Or, change bait.

 

[ScooterJackson]

Christ took away more that disobeying the Law's consequences.

So we can all live in sin now, right?

The wages of sin are no longer death?

 

[CS1]

Actually it's not for the mature Spirit filled, Spirit led Christian but is normal for those that don't know the Lord who are no abiding in Christ being led by the Spirit. They are still walking after the flesh in condemnation

Romans 8:13 - For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

Ephesians 4:22-24 - put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

1 Thessalonians 4:4 - That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour



Yes it is, for the mature Spirit filled, Spirit led Christian

Philippians 4:13
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me

Matthew 19:26
with God all things are possible



Actually, David's mom was in sin when he was conceived.

So why not get born again and walk in the Spirit and escape sin's influence?

The reformed can't do that because it would tip over their little religious wagon and they would have to admit that have not been following the whole counsel of God He has provided in His Word.



You were just saying man was born in to sin and it's normal to want to do sin.

You can't have it both ways. You either believe reformed doctrine or you don't, so which it is?



This is what those who are reprobate say frequently as they refuse to allow the Holy Spirit to lead them in to all Truth (God's Word) because they favor the carnal minded religious traditions of so called reformed theology which teaches them it's normal to go ahead and live in sin which is evident because the reformed love to tell everybody they are sinners and they sin every day in thought word and deed.

Those of us who actually accept the whole counsel of God who have learned to submit themselves to the leading of the Holy Spirit know better than to follow the carnal minded religious traditions of so called reformed theology which is choked full of error.

If you are going to take part of what I said out of context to support your narrative that is dishonesty. I did not say

"You were just saying man was born in to sin and it's normal to want to do sin."
"You can't have it both ways. You either believe reformed doctrine or you don't, so which it is?"
What did i really say ?

The problem is those who say " It's normal to sin daily."
It is normal for the flesh to desire the things God said do not do.
The question: is it possible to stop living in sin?
This is an oxymoron . The world is fallen, and all are born in sin and shaped in iniquity. PS 51:5-6


We must bring it back to You and I,
instead of they and them.

Are you sinning daily ?
Are you enable to be free from certain sins?
Does one understand that being tempted is not a sin unless you are drawn to it by the lust and become a willful participant.

Gal 5:17 says: "For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want."

The flesh does always mind the flesh, but the spirit always minds the Spirit.

The question " It's normal to sin daily"

is one asked as a loaded question. It is one of evasion of ones own personal struggle with a specific sin they:

1. Do not have victory over,
2. Have no desire to let it go because they love it to much,
3. in an environment or culture that has accepted the sin as a normal daily occurrence.

Lets get to the issue of the matter.

IF you are practicing sin such sexual, addictive , and abusive sin and are not or have not repented , removed yourself from the environment and cultural acceptance, and are not renewing your mind by the word of God .
You will do that type sin daily.

Instead of arguing strawman of salvation by works or sinless protection. How about each one of us deal with the hidden sins of perversion, addiction and lying. And Hypocrisy, that causes one to think they can create reasons theologically to water down one's own act of sin.

Now you can finish your false narrative of what I did not say.

 

[Delvianna]

I am glad you cleared that up.
Christ took away more that disobeying the Law's consequences.
He took away our lust to disobey HIM.
Loving God and neighbor perfectly allows us to fulfill the OT Law's heart/core.

Hard disagree. Otherwise you don't have constant warnings about falling away and parables warnings about falling away. If your idea that God just automatically force alters what you think/feel, then those verses and parables are meaningless and essentially you're teaching that God only gives the appearance of free will.

For some reason, I only looked at one verse, so was unaware you meant the entire chapter...my bad.
So I see a mentioning o,fthe feast of tabernacles.
But verse 18 of Zech 14, says the threat is against the heathens; not those reborn of God's seed.

What's the definition of a heathen?

Ugh...not a chance.
I celebrate the birth and resurrection of Christ Jesus every day, with a life devoted to His love.

truly glad to hear that! Seriously. Bravo to you!

 

[Freed18]

So we can all live in sin now, right?

We no longer have to live in sin, thanks to the gifts of repentance from sin and rebirth from God's seed.

The wages of sin are no longer death?

The wages of sin is still death, plus a second death.

 

[Freed18]

Hard disagree. Otherwise you don't have constant warnings about falling away and parables warnings about falling away. If your idea that God just automatically force alters what you think/feel, then those verses and parables are meaningless and essentially you're teaching that God only gives the appearance of free will.

You do know that not all the readers of, or audience to, Paul's letters were converts...right?
Not every message is meant for everyone.
Paul writes..."And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts." (Gal 5:24)
No lusts, no sin !

What's the definition of a heathen?

Mine is, unbeliever.

truly glad to hear that! Seriously. Bravo to you!

Separating ourselves from the world's traditions isn't really that difficult.