Some Israel Eschatological Passages

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NetChaplain

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Some Israel Eschatological Passages



Isa 4:2, 3; 26:19
Dan 12:1-3
Eze 20:33, 34; 37:1-4, 11-14




“It requires no profound study to observe that the earthly, Messianic, Davidic kingdom was offered by John the Baptist, by Christ and by His disciples, that it was rejected even to the murder of John the Baptist and the crucifixion of the King, and that it was not set up in connection with the first dispensation, nor is it being set up in the present dispensation (but is for the millennial kingdom, which in my suspicion is for Christ and His Body to teach Israel for a thousand years—NC). Nevertheless, every oath-bound covenant of Jehovah will yet be consummated, His kingdom will come, and His bidding be done on earth as it is in heaven (this is in reference to the millennial kingdom on the old earth prior to the new earth; the difference is shown between His will in heaven being also done on the earth—NC).

“The Church does not appear in the OT. As something new (and eternal in the new heaven—NC) in God’s provision for Jew and Gentile, the true Church and some of its unique characteristics are spoken of by Paul as “mysteries.” These mysteries were withheld from the OT saints, but are freely revealed to NT saints, hence the Church is not found in the OT. These mysteries include the Church itself, its Head, its message of grace, the Body of Christ as an organism made up of saved Jews and Gentiles, indwelt by Christ as the “hope of glory” (Col 1:27), its ministry controlled by the Lord Jesus Himself, its ultimate removal from the earthly scene by resurrection or “translation” (Heb 11:5), and its approaching marriage as the Bride of the Lamb (Rev 21:9 - the Spirit and the Bride are in the holy city, new Jerusalem “saying come”). Not a hint of these things appears in the OT. On the contrary, this is the ethnic group (Christian Jews and Gentiles—NC) which the Lord Jesus spoke of when He said, “I will build My Church”; an accomplishment which was still future at the time of it announcement. Never does Scripture confuse it with Israel—past, future or present.” —L S Chafer (1871-1952)
 

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Some Israel Eschatological Passages



Isa 4:2, 3; 26:19
Dan 12:1-3
Eze 20:33, 34; 37:1-4, 11-14




“It requires no profound study to observe that the earthly, Messianic, Davidic kingdom was offered by John the Baptist, by Christ and by His disciples, that it was rejected even to the murder of John the Baptist and the crucifixion of the King, and that it was not set up in connection with the first dispensation, nor is it being set up in the present dispensation (but is for the millennial kingdom, which in my suspicion is for Christ and His Body to teach Israel for a thousand years—NC). Nevertheless, every oath-bound covenant of Jehovah will yet be consummated, His kingdom will come, and His bidding be done on earth as it is in heaven (this is in reference to the millennial kingdom on the old earth prior to the new earth; the difference is shown between His will in heaven being also done on the earth—NC).

“The Church does not appear in the OT. As something new (and eternal in the new heaven—NC) in God’s provision for Jew and Gentile, the true Church and some of its unique characteristics are spoken of by Paul as “mysteries.” These mysteries were withheld from the OT saints, but are freely revealed to NT saints, hence the Church is not found in the OT. These mysteries include the Church itself, its Head, its message of grace, the Body of Christ as an organism made up of saved Jews and Gentiles, indwelt by Christ as the “hope of glory” (Col 1:27), its ministry controlled by the Lord Jesus Himself, its ultimate removal from the earthly scene by resurrection or “translation” (Heb 11:5), and its approaching marriage as the Bride of the Lamb (Rev 21:9 - the Spirit and the Bride are in the holy city, new Jerusalem “saying come”). Not a hint of these things appears in the OT. On the contrary, this is the ethnic group (Christian Jews and Gentiles—NC) which the Lord Jesus spoke of when He said, “I will build My Church”; an accomplishment which was still future at the time of it announcement. Never does Scripture confuse it with Israel—past, future or present.” —L S Chafer (1871-1952)
Are you suggesting that the Sinai covenant hasn't been consummated and there is still future fulfillment?
 

NetChaplain

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Are you suggesting that the Sinai covenant hasn't been consummated and there is still future fulfillment?
Hi, and thanks for your interest! The Decalogue was for only for the Hebrews and Jews. Not sure what else you mean.
 

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Hi, and thanks for your interest! The Decalogue was for only for the Hebrews and Jews. Not sure what else you mean.
Has the old covenant been fulfilled?
 

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Has the old covenant been fulfilled?
It depends on what you mean by "old covenant." If you mean the Law, it was fulfilled when Christ ascended to the Father. The Decalogue, which was only for the Jews, has been "taken away" (Heb 10:9), in order to establish the new present Covenant.
 

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It depends on what you mean by "old covenant." If you mean the Law, it was fulfilled when Christ ascended to the Father. The Decalogue, which was only for the Jews, has been "taken away" (Heb 10:9), in order to establish the new present Covenant.
I'm not talking about the law. On Sinai God covenanted with Israel. Is that covenant still in effect?
 

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I'm not talking about the law. On Sinai God covenanted with Israel. Is that covenant still in effect?
I see what you mean. The Covenant with Israel concerning the Decalogue (which was only to Israel and no other people) involved also the Law. Jesus said "the Law would not pass till all be fulfilled" (Mat 5:18). His sacrifice was the fulfilling of the Law. This covenant was replaced by the new covenant of grace (Heb 10:9).
 

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“He shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers” (Rev 2:27).

Albert Barnes: “There is an allusion here to Psalms 2:9; “Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.” There is a slight change in the passage, “he shall rule,” instead of “thou shalt break,” in order to adapt the language to the purpose of the speaker here. The allusion in the Psalm is to the Messiah as reigning triumphant over the nations (Christ and the Christians teaching Israel—NC), or subduing them under him; and the idea here, as in the previous verse, is, that his redeemed people will be associated with him in this dominion. To rule with a scepter of iron, is not to rule with a harsh and tyrannical sway, but with power that is firm and invincible. It denotes a government of strength, or one that cannot be successfully opposed; one in which the subjects are effectually subdued” (restored Israel will be desirous to be “ruled with a rod of iron” via the Lord Jesus—NC).