Some polls say Jews are richer, older, and better educated than gentiles. Why?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
ewq1938

ewq1938

Well-known member
#21
Oct 18, 2018
5,020
1,268
113
#21
Blik said:
God is Christ and Christ is God.
Click to expand...
No, Christ is God the Son, the second person of the Trinity. He is not God the Father.

Israel rejects that the man born in Bethlehem became God, I think we would need to be God to know for certain if rejecting that is rejecting Christ in God.
Click to expand...

Jews reject Jesus Christ. They do not believe he is Divine or the Son of God the Father nor that he is the Messiah.

Joh 8:18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
Joh 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father : if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
 
T

TheIndianGirl

Guest
#22
#22
Blik said:
I would like to know if there is something good in the Jewish culture that brings blessings.
Click to expand...
I just think Jews they have a different attitude on money than Christians; this is expected since material wealth/riches is viewed differently in the OT and NT. Jews have a more positive view on material wealth (God blessed the patriarchs with material wealth, land etc.), whereas in the NT money can also be associated with evil (rich people in the NT are viewed negatively, money being the master of this world, etc.). Jesus also basically said that money/material wealth is meaningless. The different attitude on money, plus the fact that Jews value education and are highly educated, work in high paid professions, work in urban areas, take Jewish inheritance laws seriously, etc. contribute to the fact they are more wealthy.

I do think God blessed the Jews by giving them Israel, but as to why an individual Jew is smart or wealthy is more due to his/her own personal ambition/doing. I don't think there is anything mysterious as to why an individual Jew is smart or wealthy.
 
Blik

Blik

Senior Member
#23
Dec 6, 2016
7,312
2,428
113
#23
ewq1938 said:
No, Christ is God the Son, the second person of the Trinity. He is not God the Father.




Jews reject Jesus Christ. They do not believe he is Divine or the Son of God the Father nor that he is the Messiah.

Joh 8:18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
Joh 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father : if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
Click to expand...
Wow!! It sounds as if you completely understand that God is one and yet three. I can't wrap my head around it, I'm going to have to wait until I get out of this body of mine.
 
ewq1938

ewq1938

Well-known member
#24
Oct 18, 2018
5,020
1,268
113
#24
Blik said:
Wow!! It sounds as if you completely understand that God is one and yet three. I can't wrap my head around it, I'm going to have to wait until I get out of this body of mine.
Click to expand...
So, do you reject the Trinity doctrine?
 
Blik

Blik

Senior Member
#25
Dec 6, 2016
7,312
2,428
113
#25
ewq1938 said:
So, do you reject the Trinity doctrine?
Click to expand...
No. I trust the Lord completely, but with some things I see darkly. But I don't think it is absolutely necessary that we humans understand everything of the Lord. That will come when we enter our new life. I've lived almost a 100 years, surely it won't be long for me now.
 
T

throughfaith

Well-known member
#27
Aug 4, 2020
10,467
1,593
113
#27
Blik said:
One study is called the Pew Forum’s study of the American religious landscape. Here is some of their findings:

If you break down Pew’s Jewish numbers, you find that 55 percent of Reform Jews make over $100,000 a year–three times the national figure of 19 percent in America.

Other revelations are that 51 percent of Jews are 50 and older. The national average is 41 percent. Though mainline Protestants are also older in the same proportion: 51 percent

Now education. The national average for college or postgraduate education is 27 percent. Among Jews it is 59 percent. And as for mainline Protestants, 34 percent.

Most Jews live under the old covenant, and many things in that covenant are obsolete. However, it was written by our eternal God who speaks with eternal truths that never become obsolete. Cutting foreskin is obsolete, but that we are rewarded in this life for obedience is not. Check out the fruits of the spirit. The old covenant never, with its eternal truths, promised salvation for obedience. It was an eternal truth that bloodshed and faith were required for forgiveness of sin.

A major factor in Jewish life is based on how the Lord tells us to bring up children. The orthodox Jews begin memory work very early in a child’s life. We teach nursery rhymes, they teach scripture. It has been proven that the memory of a child begins much earlier than most people believe it does.

We are so blessed that we know Christ, it is so much greater than their blessings. They have the blindness God gave them to understanding the Messiah. That does not mean we must not look at the blessings they have from the Lord and wonder about them.
Click to expand...
Is this Joel Olsteen teaching?
 
K

kaylagrl

Guest
#28
#28
Dino246 said:
The Jewish culture highly values education, which leads to a high percentage of Jews working in higher-paying fields. This has been true for centuries.
Click to expand...
They also have the most Nobel prizes in the world...
 
K

kaylagrl

Guest
#29
#29
ewq1938 said:
All unbelievers will die and end up in hell. This includes Jews who reject Christ. There's nothing to brag about regarding how much one earns or how "smart" one is.
Click to expand...
The Jewish people are blessed by God. They are now blinded for a time. Read Romans 9- 11
 
K

kaylagrl

Guest
#30
#30
ewq1938 said:
No, Christ is God the Son, the second person of the Trinity. He is not God the Father.




Jews reject Jesus Christ. They do not believe he is Divine or the Son of God the Father nor that he is the Messiah.

Joh 8:18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
Joh 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father : if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
Click to expand...

But they will...
 
PennEd

PennEd

Senior Member
#31
Apr 22, 2013
13,586
9,104
113
#31
I feel incredibly blessed and rich to be grafted in to the greatest Jew of all time.
 
Kolistus

Kolistus

Well-known member
#32
Feb 3, 2020
538
276
63
#32
Cause they run the show, they got all the money. If you are born to privilege and money, odds are you will be succesful.

Look up who owns all the media, both conservative and liberal, look up who owns the banks.
 
surfer14

surfer14

Banned
#33
Jul 9, 2020
846
492
63
#33
kaylagrl said:
The Jewish people are blessed by God. They are now blinded for a time. Read Romans 9- 11
Click to expand...
How do those two sentences go together? How are jews blessed by God if they are blinded to the reality of Jesus? They reject the Savior and I would think they go to hell when they die. How is that a blessing? What good are any other blessings they might have if they're ultimately just going to hell? That feels more like a curse to me.
 
Blik

Blik

Senior Member
#34
Dec 6, 2016
7,312
2,428
113
#34
ewq1938 said:
So, do you reject the Trinity doctrine?
Click to expand...
I think it is a WOW that you seem to understand.
throughfaith said:
Is this Joel Olsteen teaching?
Click to expand...
It is looking for pure scripture teaching. How could it be some man's teaching to look for why God gives a special blessing to a group of people? Please, everybody. Put your minds to the Lord's teaching, and get the fleshly judging others thinking away from you. Search the word.

We know the group does not accept Christ as their Messiah, that is a fact not a judgment. We know God gives them special blessings, that is proven by facts. Now I'm asking you to look to scripture to determan why they have been blessed.
 
T

throughfaith

Well-known member
#36
Aug 4, 2020
10,467
1,593
113
#36
Blik said:
I think it is a WOW that you seem to understand.
It is looking for pure scripture teaching. How could it be some man's teaching to look for why God gives a special blessing to a group of people? Please, everybody. Put your minds to the Lord's teaching, and get the fleshly judging others thinking away from you. Search the word.

We know the group does not accept Christ as their Messiah, that is a fact not a judgment. We know God gives them special blessings, that is proven by facts. Now I'm asking you to look to scripture to determan why they have been blessed.
Click to expand...
Paul was Jewish and a believer . An apostle no less . Possibly the finest example we have as a believer. Suffering was what he was called to ,ultimately. What Paul went through surely wasn't his ' best life now ' .
 
Blik

Blik

Senior Member
#37
Dec 6, 2016
7,312
2,428
113
#37
surfer14 said:
How do those two sentences go together? How are jews blessed by God if they are blinded to the reality of Jesus? They reject the Savior and I would think they go to hell when they die. How is that a blessing? What good are any other blessings they might have if they're ultimately just going to hell? That feels more like a curse to me.
Click to expand...
This is exactly what this post is about. God gave many promises to the Jewish people, rewarding them because God used them to show the nations how God works with the people he created that accept him. God is using them for our benefit today, it is the purpose God told us of for His blinding them. God promises spiritual abundance to those who love Him, and they love God the Father and use their religious teachings is to use their lives to express that, they ask the Father to forgive their sins, but they reject the Christ that died for them. So why have them been given special blessings that are evident for us gentiles to see? Has God let their sin kill them, rejecting their prayer for forgiveness because it is only through Christ they can have forgiveness? Before Bethlehem, God gave them forgiveness, has that forgiveness he gave now been taken away? God is merciful, I think there it is possible they are now preserved in sleep until Christ comes again. That is how they were preserved before Bethlehem.
 
Blik

Blik

Senior Member
#38
Dec 6, 2016
7,312
2,428
113
#38
ewq1938 said:
That doesn't answer the question does it?
Click to expand...
Then does this answer your question: I do not understand how the same person can be three and still one, but I accept it on faith. I praised you for seeming to understand. Are you scolding me for praising your understanding?
 
ewq1938

ewq1938

Well-known member
#39
Oct 18, 2018
5,020
1,268
113
#39
Blik said:
Then does this answer your question: I do not understand how the same person can be three and still one, but I accept it on faith.
Click to expand...
There isn't a single person who is also 3. It's 3 that form our one God.

I praised you for seeming to understand. Are you scolding me for praising your understanding?
Click to expand...
Obviously there was no scolding. I only asked a followup question because I didn't see that you provided an answer to the original question. "scolding" is something completely different.
 
Blik

Blik

Senior Member
#40
Dec 6, 2016
7,312
2,428
113
#40
throughfaith said:
Paul was Jewish and a believer . An apostle no less . Possibly the finest example we have as a believer. Suffering was what he was called to ,ultimately. What Paul went through surely wasn't his ' best life now ' .
Click to expand...
Please explain how you think the suffering of Paul answers the question of why the Jews of today are so blessed?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.