Spirits

[JonathanBentley]

So it's obvious there are spirits and we are spirits. Do you think heaven is on earth. Christ said we would be with him but He is omnipresent or everywhere. Do we just go to be with the spirits. On marriage Jesus said we would be like the angels. Maybe men are the angels. It's always been difficult for me to believe that God created a race before Adam. The Bible actually says we are all from Adam every living human. So maybe ancient men are the spirits or angels. Maybe heaven and hell are on earth and you just pick a side because the demons are roaming free. I find it hard to believe evolution or anything where we don't have a spirit. We will live forever as everyone. I think evil is its own punishment. Righteousness has its own reward. I think the afterlife is a lot like life where sinners and saints live together but contrary to each other until sin is judged.

 

[studentoftheword]

Do you think heaven is on earth.

No ---- ------some do say that Heaven and Hell is here on earth but they are using the Good they experience and the Bad they experience as there description for Heaven and Hell on earth ------and believe me that is not How God Describes these 2 places ------

Here is a glimpse of how the Scripture describes Heaven -----

Hebrews 13:14
For here we have no lasting city, but we seek the city that is to come.

Revelation 22:1-5
Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb through the middle of the street of the city; also, on either side of the river, the tree of life with its twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit each month.

The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

No longer will there be anything accursed, but the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and his servants will worship him.

They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. And night will be no more.

They will need no light of lamp or sun, for the Lord God will be their light, and they will reign forever and ever.


Revelation 21:21-25
And the twelve gates were twelve pearls, each of the gates made of a single pearl, and the street of the city was pure gold, transparent as glass.

And I saw no temple in the city, for its temple is the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb.

And the city has no need of sun or moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and its lamp is the Lamb.

By its light will the nations walk, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it, and its gates will never be shut by day—and there will be no night there.

 

[studentoftheword]

I think the afterlife is a lot like life where sinners and saints live together but contrary to each other until sin is judged.

That is definitely NOT what Scripture Says ------Sin has already been Judged by Jesus shedding His Blood on the Cross -----Sinners will go to Hell and Saints will go to Heaven ---they will never Live together in one place as God is a Holy God and so His is His dwelling ---Nothing unclean can enter it -----

IF you reject Jesus as your Lord and Saviour then you are doomed to hell --Period -----your Spiritually separated from God forever -----Jesus the Son --God the Father and God the Holy Spirit Are ONE ---so if you reject one you reject them all ------

Revelations 21:27---this is talking of the New Earth -----your name has to be in the lambs Book of Life to get into Heaven -----When you receive Jesus in your heart ---your name is written in the Lambs Book of Life ---

AMPC
But nothing that defiles or profanes or is unwashed shall ever enter it, nor anyone who commits abominations (unclean, detestable, morally repugnant things) or practices falsehood, but only those whose names are recorded in the Lamb’s Book of Life.

 

[Nehemiah6]

So it's obvious there are spirits and we are spirits. Do you think heaven is on earth. Christ said we would be with him but He is omnipresent or everywhere. Do we just go to be with the spirits. On marriage Jesus said we would be like the angels. Maybe men are the angels. It's always been difficult for me to believe that God created a race before Adam. The Bible actually says we are all from Adam every living human. So maybe ancient men are the spirits or angels. Maybe heaven and hell are on earth and you just pick a side because the demons are roaming free. I find it hard to believe evolution or anything where we don't have a spirit. We will live forever as everyone. I think evil is its own punishment. Righteousness has its own reward. I think the afterlife is a lot like life where sinners and saints live together but contrary to each other until sin is judged.

Jonathan, how in the world are you so confused?
1. Humans consist of bodies, souls, and spirits.
2. Angels are spirit beings and there are evil angels and holy angels.
3. There was no race created before Adam, and all human beings have descended from Adam.
4. Heaven, Hell, and the earth are three DISTINCT AND SEPARATE regions. The righteous go to Heaven while the unrighteous go to Hell.
5. Sinners and saints do not live together
6. Yes the demons are roaming free at this time, but in the future they all will be in Hell - the Lake of Fire.

 

[Fundaamental]

So it's obvious there are spirits and we are spirits. Do you think heaven is on earth. Christ said we would be with him but He is omnipresent or everywhere. Do we just go to be with the spirits. On marriage Jesus said we would be like the angels. Maybe men are the angels. It's always been difficult for me to believe that God created a race before Adam. The Bible actually says we are all from Adam every living human. So maybe ancient men are the spirits or angels. Maybe heaven and hell are on earth and you just pick a side because the demons are roaming free. I find it hard to believe evolution or anything where we don't have a spirit. We will live forever as everyone. I think evil is its own punishment. Righteousness has its own reward. I think the afterlife is a lot like life where sinners and saints live together but contrary to each other until sin is judged.

Just answer plain and simple do you think man has no spirit at all and a human beings body is just a vessel for an angel ?.

 

[Fundaamental]

So it's obvious there are spirits and we are spirits. Do you think heaven is on earth. Christ said we would be with him but He is omnipresent or everywhere. Do we just go to be with the spirits. On marriage Jesus said we would be like the angels. Maybe men are the angels. It's always been difficult for me to believe that God created a race before Adam. The Bible actually says we are all from Adam every living human. So maybe ancient men are the spirits or angels. Maybe heaven and hell are on earth and you just pick a side because the demons are roaming free. I find it hard to believe evolution or anything where we don't have a spirit. We will live forever as everyone. I think evil is its own punishment. Righteousness has its own reward. I think the afterlife is a lot like life where sinners and saints live together but contrary to each other until sin is judged.

if ancient men are the spirits of angels they would be today, then your confusing it by saying it's changed, your saying perhaps we do have a spirit.
But what your really saying is you believe your no different to the ancient men and nothing changed.
I have to tell you that what your suggesting is totally false

Where is your foundation for this, was it something somebody told you, is it something youve drawn from a conclusion.

Adam was not a living man until God breathed life into him. And he became a living being, a living soul.
It was Adam mind that became a living soul.
The mind of a man is the very essence of there soul.

Honestly its either sound like youve been talking to latter day saints gone nuts or your confused.

Let me tell you as a result of a laster day saint drugged up my friend is dead and that nutcase thought exactly how you just have Not good.

You need to get this absolute rubbish out of your head.

 

[Gojira]

So it's obvious there are spirits and we are spirits. Do you think heaven is on earth. Christ said we would be with him but He is omnipresent or everywhere. Do we just go to be with the spirits. On marriage Jesus said we would be like the angels. Maybe men are the angels. It's always been difficult for me to believe that God created a race before Adam. The Bible actually says we are all from Adam every living human. So maybe ancient men are the spirits or angels. Maybe heaven and hell are on earth and you just pick a side because the demons are roaming free. I find it hard to believe evolution or anything where we don't have a spirit. We will live forever as everyone. I think evil is its own punishment. Righteousness has its own reward. I think the afterlife is a lot like life where sinners and saints live together but contrary to each other until sin is judged.

God describes a clear separation of wickedness from holiness when all is "restored". Sin will be burning forever in a place of darkness. Righteousness will have light and life. The two are not going to co-exist in any manner whatsoever.

 

[SACREDWARRIOR]

Hello,
GEN 1:1 IN THE BEGINNING GOD CREATED.....VS 2 AND THE EARTH WAS NULL AND VOID AND DARKNESS WAS UPON ..." SO AT THIS MOMENT nothing exisited except a ball of mud...no ANGELS no animals..no humans ETC.... People argue about the dating but The Bible says BEGINNING..they argue because from this point on a NUMBER or DAY COUNT is used ....
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[Gen 2:1, 4 NASB95] 1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and ALL THEIR HOSTS ... 4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made earth and heaven.

it took me awhile to grasp but God existed with nothing beside himself!!!!!

all things that now exist were created during the creation week including ANGELS, I.E Lucifer......

so we see 4 distinct living organisms ...ANGELS, PLANTS, ANIMALS,...MAN Look closely at the order of creation.....it wasnt random....each depended on the prior before being created......

Now look at how they were created...God spoke...God spoke.....GOD TOOK & BREATHED ....A SEPARATE lifeforce GODS BREATH indwells us but not the animal kingdom........

Hope this helps clarify somethings for you!!,
THE BATTLE RAGES TIL THE LION ROARS!!,
Clarence

 

[Pilgrimshope]

So it's obvious there are spirits and we are spirits. Do you think heaven is on earth. Christ said we would be with him but He is omnipresent or everywhere. Do we just go to be with the spirits. On marriage Jesus said we would be like the angels. Maybe men are the angels. It's always been difficult for me to believe that God created a race before Adam. The Bible actually says we are all from Adam every living human. So maybe ancient men are the spirits or angels. Maybe heaven and hell are on earth and you just pick a side because the demons are roaming free. I find it hard to believe evolution or anything where we don't have a spirit. We will live forever as everyone. I think evil is its own punishment. Righteousness has its own reward. I think the afterlife is a lot like life where sinners and saints live together but contrary to each other until sin is judged.

“So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“and said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭7:56‬ ‭

“Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, and the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:21-22‬ ‭KJV‬‬

a remember when Jesus was taken up into heaven and then he disappeared from thier sight ?

“And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭1:9-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

you can see how the heavenly spiritual realms and earthly physical realms are divided two parts of a single creation but there is a dividing wall that seperates the two

So you have this dynamic of one set of events happening in earth and another happening in heaven at the same time

“And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.

Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:10-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

some people are in the heavens celebrating and others are on earth going through a woe and war with Satan and his minions