State your position on Israel and current events in the Middle East

[CommodoreTeach]

He had no problem asserting Musk was a Satanist based on a costume and some other things of which still were not conclusive and outside of a court of law.
Please read post #82, you may have the person on ignore.

Okay, thanks HeIsHere. I reported it - not really for myself, but to accuse someone of pedophilia without any evidence is very, very low, especially when the reason is because that someone was pointing out government sponsored pedophilia and saying Christians should most definitely NOT be advocating for the support of such wickedness in governments.

If he's done it to me, he'll do it to others. And pedophilia is definitely something that should not be normalised (although I suspect that many Zionists would love to do just that, given the hot water the state of Israel is in over the matter, and their prioritisation of this government over everything else).

 

[CommodoreTeach]

I agree, I have concluded that no rational discussion is possible with you. I consider you to be extremely unreasonable and unscriptural trying to demand others to slander people. Also, I think your refusal to answer the most simple questions like that asked in the poll indicates that your are deceitful.

If one can't have intelligent discourse with such people as terrorists or holocaust deniers, ZNP, then one most certainly cannot have intelligent discourse with one who supports crimes against children hundreds or thousands of times worse. Pedophilia and satanic child sacrifice have no excuse, ever, irrespective of whether the perpetrators were agents of the Israeli government or not. If you can't admit that (just say the words ), we are unable to reach common ground to have an intelligent discussion about anything, because I don't know that you won't just lie for the greater glory of the state of Israel.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I think your refusal to state this shows you are in the Zionist camp.

So there you go. It doesn't matter what you say. CT and HeisH continually stir the pot then play the victim when caught. CT is constantly demanding apologies after this kind of behavior.

 

[HeIsHere]

Okay, thanks HeIsHere. I reported it - not really for myself, but to accuse someone of pedophilia without any evidence is very, very low, especially when the reason is because that someone was pointing out government sponsored pedophilia and saying Christians should most definitely NOT be advocating for the support of such wickedness in governments.

If he's done it to me, he'll do it to others. And pedophilia is definitely something that should not be normalized (although I suspect that many Zionists would love to do just that, given the hot water the state of Israel is in over the matter, and their prioritisation of this government over everything else).

I have been here a long while, often told I am not a Christian and on and on, bothers me not one iota,
and witnessed a lot stated to other people like "go suck pig farts"

They accuse of hate cause what else can they say, that is the ultimate attempt to not deal with what has been written.

But to me that comment cannot be tolerated, very upsetting, the worst comment ever, even if it was directed toward someone I disagreed with.

 

[Hermit43725]

Okay, thanks HeIsHere. I reported it - not really for myself, but to accuse someone of pedophilia without any evidence is very, very low, especially when the reason is because that someone was pointing out government sponsored pedophilia and saying Christians should most definitely NOT be advocating for the support of such wickedness in governments.

If he's done it to me, he'll do it to others. And pedophilia is definitely something that should not be normalised (although I suspect that many Zionists would love to do just that, given the hot water the state of Israel is in over the matter, and their prioritisation of this government over everything else).

Good to know you reported yourself then.

 

[CommodoreTeach]

But to me that comment cannot be tolerated, very upsetting, the worst comment ever, even if it was directed toward someone I disagreed with.

Thanks. I think this is important. Use of such insults (without any proof) is a way to start desensitising people to the worst crimes of all. I would not have reported it without your prompting (and that of Doll, I think), so thank you for giving priority to keeping our words true and not being supportive of the Satanic agenda which is clearly being carried out by governments around the world (notably the US and Israel, but most likely other governments also).

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I think it says a lot when people won't condemn pedophilia, child abuse and Satanism because of who is practicing it (not to mention the genocide, terrorism, fraud, theft, murder, etc. etc. which has been well-documented for decades). And that is all that needs to be said to close the matter, imho.

@Doll here is the point I was making. These are lies and propaganda, there is utterly no proof of what they are saying. And if you don't agree with their propaganda you're accused of agreeing with all kinds of sordid things. I don't think there's anything here he hasn't accused us of. "Etc" could mean anything. That is why I spoke up for @Hermit43725

 

[ZNP]

If one can't have intelligent discourse with such people as terrorists or holocaust deniers, ZNP, then one most certainly cannot have intelligent discourse with one who supports crimes against children hundreds or thousands of times worse. Pedophilia and satanic child sacrifice have no excuse, ever, irrespective of whether the perpetrators were agents of the Israeli government or not. If you can't admit that (just say the words ), we are unable to reach common ground to have an intelligent discussion about anything, because I don't know that you won't just lie for the greater glory of the state of Israel.

You report one poster for accusing you of supporting pedophilia without any evidence and then in the next post accuse everyone on this thread of supporting crimes against children, pedophilia, and satanic child sacrifice. Let the Lord Jesus Christ judge.

 

[HeIsHere]

Thanks. I think this is important. Use of such insults (without any proof) is a way to start desensitising people to the worst crimes of all. I would not have reported it without your prompting (and that of Doll, I think), so thank you for giving priority to keeping our words true and not being supportive of the Satanic agenda which is clearly being carried out by governments around the world (notably the US and Israel, but most likely other governments also).

So obvious, just one hour looking into Epstein reveals so much, his contacts, his funding, his connections and on and on
Sadly, what has been reaped will be sown soon and it does not look good for the USA.

 

[HeIsHere]

You report one poster for accusing you of supporting pedophilia without any evidence and then in the next post accuse everyone on this thread of supporting crimes against children, pedophilia, and satanic child sacrifice. Let the Lord Jesus Christ judge.

He accused him of pedophilia as direct response where @CommodoreTeach wrote about it.

But enough about your hobbies and preferences...

The poster has admitted to mental health issues so that is something to consider, but really the rest of you try to find ways to squirm around it except for @Doll

Wow, I am done on this thread.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I have depression, PTSD, and Anxiety, and maybe a bit of the 'Tism. I was crazy long before now.

Well talking in circles with these people won't help that situation. And we're not even in the BDF forum, which I usually stay out of. Antisemitism is a serious issue. As I said in another post, my maiden name could be considered Jewish. If you've never been on the receiving end of racism/antisemitism you wouldn't understand. I'm glad my parents are in small town USA and are relatively safe, even though they aren't Jewish. But when Jewish people in this country can't feel safe, someone needs to stand up and do something about it. I have always spoken against it here. But suddenly there is a surge here of people pushing this hatred. My opinion hasn't changed in all the years I have been here.

 

[CommodoreTeach]

He accused him of pedophilia.

Lol. I was going to respond in the same way, but then realised it's just a bait to engage in further discussion. If one can't condemn the state of Israel's pedophilia and Satanic child sacrifice blackmail, I'm going to try to refrain from engaging. Because if one can't condemn that degree of wickedness, one is either being deceptive, or one's moral compass is totally broken and thus unable to engage intelligently on anything at all.

 

[HeIsHere]

Thanks. I think this is important. Use of such insults (without any proof) is a way to start desensitising people to the worst crimes of all. I would not have reported it without your prompting (and that of Doll, I think), so thank you for giving priority to keeping our words true and not being supportive of the Satanic agenda which is clearly being carried out by governments around the world (notably the US and Israel, but most likely other governments also).

And accusing people of anti-semitism day and night on here, that is okay, , that is acceptable.

.... for what exactly showing there are two sides to the story and lots of propaganda by those with the means along with buried/supressed information.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Okay, thanks HeIsHere. I reported it - not really for myself, but to accuse someone of pedophilia without any evidence is very, very low,

You just got finished accusing everyone else of the same thing!!

And pedophilia is definitely something that should not be normalised (although I suspect that many Zionists would love to do just that, given the hot water the state of Israel is in over the matter, and their prioritisation of this government over everything else).

And there it is again!! Playing the victim while accusing others. Unreal.

 

[ZNP]

Jeremiah 30:3 For, lo, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the Lord: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.

You might think this was fulfilled when they returned from captivity in Babylon.

4 And these are the words that the Lord spake concerning Israel and concerning Judah. 5 For thus saith the Lord; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace. 6 Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?

You might think this was fulfilled as well? This can't refer to 70 AD because He is likening it to giving birth, not to being exiled.

7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it.

Israel was not saved out of 70 AD, they were sent to the four corners of the earth in a two thousand year time out.

8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:

Once again, this cannot refer to the time of Jesus because they were under the yoke of the Romans. For the last two thousand years they have been serving strangers.

9 But they shall serve the Lord their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.

This can't refer to David who was already dead but rather to Jesus Christ, the greater David. So then, this has not yet been fulfilled for the Jews.

We serve a glorious God who can do all these things and tell us the end from the beginning.

 

[HeIsHere]

Lol. I was going to respond in the same way, but then realised it's just a bait to engage in further discussion. If one can't condemn the state of Israel's pedophilia and Satanic child sacrifice blackmail, I'm going to try to refrain from engaging. Because if one can't condemn that degree of wickedness, one is either being deceptive, or one's moral compass is totally broken and thus unable to engage intelligently on anything at all.

I am done.
Yes that is that one bridge they cannot cross because they know what it means.

Just tragic for Christianity as a whole, we are going to look really bad when people look back.

 

[CommodoreTeach]

And accusing people of anti-semitism day and night on here, that is okay, , that is acceptable.

.... for what exactly showing there are two sides to the story and lots of propaganda by those with the means along with buried/supressed information.

Kinda amusing how they mix accusing a group such as Zionists (many of whom do actively support pedophilia by denying the fact of the state of Israel's utilisation of Jeffrey Epstein's pedophile blackmail network, or worse - trying to justify it because it was for the state of Israel), with slandering an individual of similar crimes without any proof whatsoever. But meh - I think most everyone is getting wise to how Zionists operate now. Probably one day, Zionism will be outlawed the same as Nazism is today. I do prefer freedom of speech, but I can't imagine the world would be a worse place with fewer Zionists roaming the streets and spreading their lies and hatred.

 

[Hermit43725]

And accusing people of anti-semitism day and night on here, that is okay, , that is acceptable.

.... for what exactly showing there are two sides to the story and lots of propaganda by those with the means along with buried/supressed information.

Well at least you admitting I wasn't accusing you of anything. You admitted it's true.

 

[ZNP]

Jeremiah 30:3 For, lo, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the Lord: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.

You might think this was fulfilled when they returned from captivity in Babylon.

4 And these are the words that the Lord spake concerning Israel and concerning Judah. 5 For thus saith the Lord; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace. 6 Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?

You might think this was fulfilled as well? This can't refer to 70 AD because He is likening it to giving birth, not to being exiled.

7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it.

Israel was not saved out of 70 AD, they were sent to the four corners of the earth in a two thousand year time out.

8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:

Once again, this cannot refer to the time of Jesus because they were under the yoke of the Romans. For the last two thousand years they have been serving strangers.

9 But they shall serve the Lord their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.

This can't refer to David who was already dead but rather to Jesus Christ, the greater David. So then, this has not yet been fulfilled for the Jews.

We serve a glorious God who can do all these things and tell us the end from the beginning.

Jeremiah 30:10 Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the Lord; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.

What an amazing prophecy, from the context it is clearly referring to Israel's return from Captivity as a shadow of what is to come at the end of the age, what we are seeing now when they were brought from the four corners of the earth back to Israel.

11 For I am with thee, saith the Lord, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet I will not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished.

The full end of Babylon was simply a shadow of the full end of all the nations at Armageddon.

12 For thus saith the Lord, Thy bruise is incurable, and thy wound is grievous.

That is a reference to the Holocaust.

13 There is none to plead thy cause, that thou mayest be bound up: thou hast no healing medicines.

That is what we see today with all the nations of the earth gathering against Israel.

14 All thy lovers have forgotten thee; they seek thee not; for I have wounded thee with the wound of an enemy, with the chastisement of a cruel one, for the multitude of thine iniquity; because thy sins were increased.

This is why this is happening, so that Israel will learn never to put their trust in these other nations. They think that they are doing good, the nations will appreciate it. That is a lie, the only one you can trust is Jesus Christ, the Messiah.

15 Why criest thou for thine affliction? thy sorrow is incurable for the multitude of thine iniquity: because thy sins were increased, I have done these things unto thee.

The Lord is a jealous God, they rejected the Messiah and so He has done these things to them, not to destroy them, but to cause them to return to Him.

16 Therefore all they that devour thee shall be devoured; and all thine adversaries, every one of them, shall go into captivity; and they that spoil thee shall be a spoil, and all that prey upon thee will I give for a prey.

As they have done it will be done unto them. With what measure they measure it will be measured to them.

 

[Hermit43725]

Well talking in circles with these people won't help that situation. And we're not even in the BDF forum, which I usually stay out of. Antisemitism is a serious issue. As I said in another post, my maiden name could be considered Jewish. If you've never been on the receiving end of racism/antisemitism you wouldn't understand. I'm glad my parents are in small town USA and are relatively safe, even though they aren't Jewish. But when Jewish people in this country can't feel safe, someone needs to stand up and do something about it. I have always spoken against it here. But suddenly there is a surge here of people pushing this hatred. My opinion hasn't changed in all the years I have been here.

I had to deal with ELCA clergy calling for the destruction of Israel.

On 10/8/23.

One of which is my gene sister. That's with our Paternal Grandmother being Jewish. That branch of my family got out of Poland before CommodoreTeach a certain little German got the camps really going in the 40's.

I'll stand with the people of Israel. Especially when the monsters accuse them of blood libel. Chistians, Muslims, Druze, all are slandered with their brush. My Great uncle stood watch over the anti-Semites at Nuermburg. So yes, I'm well aware that I'm their target as much as those who practice the faith.