STOP BASHING CHRISTIAN METAL!!

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Seekeroftruth03

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It amazes me how so many people can't even discern that head banging music is evil. You think Jesus would go to a mosh pit and head bang to screamo music? My goodness people are so blind.
 

Chopper

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It doesn't matter how long you studied. People of false religions study the Bible for a lot longer than that, and still do not understand the Bible. Read the articles at the site. Continue to study.
You just said it.... they study and still don't understand.
Why would I want to study something you are trying to point me to that clearly is in contradiction to the what was said by Yahushua? That is what is called a false religion, or deception to lead away from the truth, a stumbling block to which was already spoken of before in this thread.

I will not lay aside the commandment of Yah for the tradition or commandments of men.
 
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You have no idea about the wrath of God. God takes no pleasure in the destruction of the wicked.
Exactly! God is grieved by sin. I felt this two times very strongly by God. One time was when I discovered that a church service I attended was in support of Catholicism and the pope (Although they were not Catholic). I was walking away from the service and was overcome by the Spirit with great grief for their sin in love for them. It was very powerful moment for me. It hit me from out of nowhere. I also felt this recently when reading the dark things that are going on in this world. I was overcome by the Spirit to pray.
 
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You just said it.... they study and still don't understand.
Why would I want to study something you are trying to point me to that clearly is in contradiction to the what was said by Yahushua? That is what is called a false religion, or deception to lead away from the truth, a stumbling block to which was already spoken of before in this thread.

I will not lay aside the commandment of Yah for the tradition or commandments of men.
See, if somebody is really after the truth, they will at least hear someone out and check the Scriptures to see whether those things be so or not. Acts 17:11. But this is another topic. So let's move on.
 
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It amazes me how so many people can't even discern that head banging music is evil. You think Jesus would go to a mosh pit and head bang to screamo music? My goodness people are so blind.
Amen brother.
 
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Google is your friend...
The bum off the streets does not have Google; And Jesus favored those who are less fortunate. But again, you have to ignore Paul's statement about speaking five words with the understanding, etc. in order for your belief to work.
 

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oh so the lyrics are important after all?
Yeah, like tell that to Gwar.
who told you Gwar was a Christian artist?

anyone who has grown up hearing Swahili can understand Swahili. having grown up hearing metal-style vocals, i can understand the singer much better than you can. your misunderstanding does not mean that no one can understand, and beside this, there are 100's of artists who play music you are condemning with singing that is clear and easily understood, and lyrics straight from the pages of scripture or clearly inspired by and in agreement with the Word, but your stance based on mere appearance precludes their good.

when Paul Baloche plays the song "Praise Adonai" -- written originally by Scandinavian Metal Praise, is it acceptable to you?
then why should it not acceptable when Scandinavian Metal Praise sings it?
 

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Praise Adonai by Paul Baloche

[video=youtube_share;2s8Spq4Zs0M]http://youtu.be/2s8Spq4Zs0M[/video]
 
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posthuman

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Praise Adonai by Scandinavian Metal Praise

[video=youtube_share;NFlDJJivW2U]http://youtu.be/NFlDJJivW2U[/video]

lyrics: (because they matter)

Who is like Him
The Lion and the Lamb
Seated on the throne
Mountains bow down
Every ocean roars
To the Lord of hosts

Praise Adonai
From the rising of the sun
‘Til the end of every day
Praise Adonai
All the nations of the earth
All the angels and the saints
Sing Praise
 
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Chopper

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Exactly! God is grieved by sin. I felt this two times very strongly by God. One time was when I discovered that a church service I attended was in support of Catholicism and the pope (Although they were not Catholic). I was walking away from the service and was overcome by the Spirit with great grief for their sin in love for them. It was very powerful moment for me. It hit me from out of nowhere. I also felt this recently when reading the dark things that are going on in this world. I was overcome by the Spirit to pray.
Here's a discovery for you...

The appointed times you observe is what marks who your Master is according to scripture.
That roman catholic church you figured out happens to also claim their authority over all other churches who worship on the day they commanded in place of the Sabbath. What mark is that?
 
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who told you Gwar was a Christian artist?

anyone who has grown up hearing Swahili can understand Swahili. having grown up hearing metal-style vocals, i can understand the singer much better than you can. your misunderstanding does not mean that no one can understand, and beside this, there are 100's of artists who play music you are condemning with singing that is clear and easily understood, and lyrics straight from the pages of scripture or clearly inspired by and in agreement with the Word, but your stance based on mere appearance precludes their good.

when Paul Baloche plays the song "Praise Adonai" -- written originally by Scandinavian Metal Praise, is it acceptable to you?
then why should it not acceptable when Scandinavian Metal Praise sings it?

Now, you are just getting emotional and defensve. I never said Gwar was a Christian band. My point was that Gwar is the best example of not hearing someone speak. This is the devil's music.

Why would Christian artists immitate Satantists or have associate with them.

Professed "Christian" Rock Band, As I Lay Dying -Featured at Ozzfest 2005!
(Important Note: While I may agree with this article here, I do not agree with all views or beliefs expressed by the author of this webiste).
 
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Here's a discovery for you...

The appointed times you observe is what marks who your Master is according to scripture.
That roman catholic church you figured out happens to also claim their authority over all other churches who worship on the day they commanded in place of the Sabbath. What mark is that?
Not interested in discussing a topic that you are close minded about. Besides, it is an off topic discusssion.
 

posthuman

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whoops, looks like mr. Baloche actually wrote the song, and the metal version was recorded soon thereafter.

my apologies for the bad information -- but here is the fruit of Christian metal: i have known this song for 7 years, making melody in my heart, because of the heavy metal musicians, and only heard Baloche's version last year for the first time, and that only because i was led to a place to share music with other Christians, because i first had been led to many different kinds of esoteric gospel musics. and then being there -- and setting aside my own pride and the desire of my ears to be tickled -- i listened without prejudice to the praise that others offered up.

so without that Christian metal existed, i would never have been blessed by this, or have had opportunity to be the instrument by which others were blessed by these same spiritual songs.
 

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The bum off the streets does not have Google; And Jesus favored those who are less fortunate. But again, you have to ignore Paul's statement about speaking five words with the understanding, etc. in order for your belief to work.
There is a LOT of melodic metal songs out there with beautiful voices and perfectly clear lyrics, even of overall soft and and soothing sound to the ear.
But you just decided you personally dislike something so it is "not of God" although it fulfills all your "criteria" (even if we go by yours and not God's criteria). So you cant blame the whole genre, yet you still try. You say Petra isnt metal so then it can be godly? So R'n'R can be godly, but metal cant (as if there was a big difference, really). You go by your personal taste and set it out as God's standard.
God notes stringed instruments among the ones recommended for praise. Guitars are also stringed instruments.
But of course you dont like that so you will argue what the Bible says...

Psalms 150:4 Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs.
Isaiah 38:20 The LORD was ready to save me: therefore we will sing my songs to the stringed instruments all the days of our life in the house of the LORD.
Habakkuk 3:19 ...To the chief singer on my stringed instruments.

That's not only harp.
 

posthuman

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Now, you are just getting emotional and defensve. I never said Gwar was a Christian band. My point was that Gwar is the best example of not hearing someone speak. This is the devil's music.
so you agree Gwar has absolutely no place in this discussion?

that it's a straw-man argument you tossed out there?
 
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Praise Adonai by Scandinavian Metal Praise

[video=youtube_share;NFlDJJivW2U]http://youtu.be/NFlDJJivW2U[/video]

lyrics: (because they matter)

Who is like Him
The Lion and the Lamb
Seated on the throne
Mountains bow down
Every ocean roars
To the Lord of hosts

Praise Adonai
From the rising of the sun
‘Til the end of every day
Praise Adonai
All the nations of the earth
All the angels and the saints
Sing Praise
I couldn't even take 2 seconds of that song. Pure evil. It's not of God.
 
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so you agree Gwar has absolutely no place in this discussion?

that it's a straw-man argument you tossed out there?
Gwar is like Christian Metal bands in the fact that you can't hear what is being said. They are also a like because I can't tell the difference between their music and Christian heavy Metal. They sound to the same to me.
 
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There is a LOT of melodic metal songs out there with beautiful voices and perfectly clear lyrics, even of overall soft and and soothing sound to the ear.
But you just decided you personally dislike something so it is "not of God" although it fulfills all your "criteria" (even if we go by yours and not God's criteria). So you cant blame the whole genre, yet you still try. You say Petra isnt metal so then it can be godly? So R'n'R can be godly, but metal cant (as if there was a big difference, really). You go by your personal taste and set it out as God's standard.
God notes stringed instruments among the ones recommended for praise. Guitars are also stringed instruments.
But of course you dont like that so you will argue what the Bible says...

Psalms 150:4 Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs.
Isaiah 38:20 The LORD was ready to save me: therefore we will sing my songs to the stringed instruments all the days of our life in the house of the LORD.
Habakkuk 3:19 ...To the chief singer on my stringed instruments.

That's not only harp.
No, most Metal Music cannot be understood. Yes, there are some slow songs, but the majority of their songs is absolute trash and rubbish and is of an evil spirit.

Also, the above passage does not say you can praise the Lord in aggressive, violent, and prideful way. That is what Metal music does. You can't see that because you dont' want to see it because odds are is that you used to like Metal Music before you came to the faith. It is like an old friend to you.
 
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whoops, looks like mr. Baloche actually wrote the song, and the metal version was recorded soon thereafter.

my apologies for the bad information -- but here is the fruit of Christian metal: i have known this song for 7 years, making melody in my heart, because of the heavy metal musicians, and only heard Baloche's version last year for the first time, and that only because i was led to a place to share music with other Christians, because i first had been led to many different kinds of esoteric gospel musics. and then being there -- and setting aside my own pride and the desire of my ears to be tickled -- i listened without prejudice to the praise that others offered up.

so without that Christian metal existed, i would never have been blessed by this, or have had opportunity to be the instrument by which others were blessed by these same spiritual songs.
People were first Jehovah's Witnesses before they came to faith in Jesus Christ. Doesn't make JW's right with God.

My spirit is still vexed and disturbed from having listened to only 2 second of that garabage you just played on YouTube. It is sick my friend. Pray about it and talk to Him if it is right or not.
 
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posthuman

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Why would Christian artists immitate Satantists or have associate with them.

why would the apostles speak in Hebrew when the Pharisees also spoke in Hebrew?
why are we talking on the internet when the single largest use of the internet is pornography?

Professed "Christian" Rock Band, As I Lay Dying -Featured at Ozzfest 2005!
(Important Note: While I may agree with this article here, I do not agree with all views or beliefs expressed by the author of this webiste).
as long as we're pointing at the sins of a musician instead of looking at the actual content of their songs, can i remind you that king David was guilty of murder and adultery? if Amy Grant is also guilty of adultery, does it mean no song she ever sangs can possibly praise God? of course not. neither would it mean that no female solo vocalist can be used of God simply because there are examples of worldly female vocalists.

when you hear any song that tickles your ear, is your first reaction "boy this is swell, i'm going to pattern my life exactly after whoever the singer is" ??
it's certainly not what i think.

these things are not a right basis for judgment.