STOP BASHING CHRISTIAN METAL!!
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I have even heard unbelievers call Metal Music of the devil. Please talk to God about it some more. In other words, put this music away for at least 1 year and come back to it. You are not going to be convinced if you love something. If you love Jesus more, then temporarily putting this music away should not be a problem for you.
people who speak Portuguese still speak Portuguese when they come to faith in Christ. if they cursed God in Portuguese before they came to a knowledge of the truth, it doesn't mean Portuguese is either 'wrong with God' or 'right with God' -- a language is only a medium for conversation to be expressed in. because Nietzsche wrote in German does not mean everyone who speaks in German is a nihilist.
First of all the thread is about Christian music not about unbeliever metal music.
You and many others here dont understand what it means personal conviction, that you cannot hammer your personal conviction into other people. It is not "dont kill" or "dont steal". It is personal conviction. If God didnt put it into another's heart, then He didnt. Maybe He will in the future. Or maybe He wont. Or maybe He is using Christian metal to bring somebody to God or to transition them to different types of worship music.
This is as assuming and judgmental as it gets on here...
You and many others here dont understand what it means personal conviction, that you cannot hammer your personal conviction into other people. It is not "dont kill" or "dont steal". It is personal conviction. If God didnt put it into another's heart, then He didnt. Maybe He will in the future. Or maybe He wont. Or maybe He is using Christian metal to bring somebody to God or to transition them to different types of worship music.
This is as assuming and judgmental as it gets on here...
Not the same thing. Metal music is aggressive, violent, and prideful in behavior. If you can't recognize the spirit of evil behind it, I suggest you talk to God about it. It vexes my Spirit not because I dislike the music in tone. What you are not getting is that I used to like this garbage. But after receiving Christ, I now know it is wicked and evil because of it's aggressive and violent nature.
It's not off topic to relate unbeliever Metal Music with Christian Metal Music because they are the same thing. They are both Satanic and evil. I used to like Metal Music as another poster here actually used to be a Heavy Metal artist. We are not that way any more because we have been changed by the love of Jesus Christ. You won't want this type of music if you are changed. Talk to God about it.
it's exactly the same thing, and it's incredibly fallacious reasoning.
some demon-possessed men lived in the desert wearing camel hair and eating bugs. in a 2-second glance at him, he was judged in mens eyes as a demon possessed man, without any regard whatosever for his message.
i have a carnal distaste for trombone music. if i judge a symphony as utterly demonic because a trombone plays in the first 2 seconds of it, i'm an idiot.
to many people, archaic language like "thee" and "thou" and "wherefore" is difficult to understand and sounds pretentious and vain. wouldn't you agree that they are sorely mistaken to write off a preacher as "prideful and full of confusion" if he quotes the KJV to begin a sermon?
this is all carnal judgement, poor judgement, rash condemnation without knowledge.
some demon-possessed men lived in the desert wearing camel hair and eating bugs. in a 2-second glance at him, he was judged in mens eyes as a demon possessed man, without any regard whatosever for his message.
i have a carnal distaste for trombone music. if i judge a symphony as utterly demonic because a trombone plays in the first 2 seconds of it, i'm an idiot.
to many people, archaic language like "thee" and "thou" and "wherefore" is difficult to understand and sounds pretentious and vain. wouldn't you agree that they are sorely mistaken to write off a preacher as "prideful and full of confusion" if he quotes the KJV to begin a sermon?
this is all carnal judgement, poor judgement, rash condemnation without knowledge.
I used to jamm in the 80's on guitar...such as Metallica, Dokken, Scorpions etc......I still like guitar and like to jamm every now and then, but will freely admit that a lot of the music I listened to and played in the 80's had lyrics that were contrary to the truth...Having said that...if the words are good and not blasphemous then it would be a matter of personal conviction. You cannot force conviction upon someone by words and or brow beating....God is in the business of convicting and like the old adage goes....You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink!
Anyways, I am not discussing this anymore. Folks can believe and worship as they will. But they will have to answer to God for it, though. I know what is evil and what is good by the Spirit and by His Word.
I know you would not play this music at a wedding or in proposing to someone you love. I know this music would not do well at a child care gathering within the church. I know this music is not good to listen to if you are upset and are driving in busy traffic. I know this music is not good to listen to if you just had a fight with the one you love. It's aggressive and violent and leads a person towards dark feelings and not good feelings.
Again, I encourage folks here not take my word for it, but talk to God about it some more.
(Jeremiah 33:3).
I know you would not play this music at a wedding or in proposing to someone you love. I know this music would not do well at a child care gathering within the church. I know this music is not good to listen to if you are upset and are driving in busy traffic. I know this music is not good to listen to if you just had a fight with the one you love. It's aggressive and violent and leads a person towards dark feelings and not good feelings.
Again, I encourage folks here not take my word for it, but talk to God about it some more.
(Jeremiah 33:3).
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I can be a witness because of my own experience that metal music is the door for reckless and out of control behavior. When I used to get high, or drunk, (ashamedly I did these things but I am a new creation now and that person no longer exists), I used to drive back roads in the country and blast metal music. This kind of music brought out in me only rage and feelings of hate, depression, etc. When I would hear my father who is a Christian play praise music it bothered me, because I knew I wasn't right and under conviction. When I got saved, I tried to play Christian rock music, but the Spirit of God showed me it wasn't pleasing to God. Even though the lyrics were more towards Christianity, the sound of the instruments was the same ugly sound I heard from the worldly bands. We have bands such as P.O.D., who say they are christian, but yet they play their music at hellfest. Hellfest is nothing but a bunch of demons with instruments and a mic. They aren't playing to witness, as they say, they are playing because they love to mingle with this filthy world like so many other luke warm Christians today.
i got this -- if anyone can't bear loud, zealous praise, please don't bother clicking 'play'
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that the King of glory may come in.
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The Earth, the sea, the sun, the stars, the sky, must bow to Jesus' Name!
The Earth, the sea, the sun, the stars, the sky, must bow to Jesus' Name!
Hallelujah!
Kings, crowns, thrones: bow down!
Fall face down: bow down!
Kiss the ground: bow down!
Jesus, you hold the crown!
Bow down!
Lift up your heads, O gates! And be lifted up, O ancient doors,
that the King of glory may come in.
(Psalm 24:7)
[video=youtube_share;ThWoW98weaY]http://youtu.be/ThWoW98weaY[/video]
All fear, all pain, all hurt, all grief, all lies, must bow to Jesus' Name!
All kings, all thrones, everything that breathes life, must bow to Jesus' Name!
The Earth, the sea, the sun, the stars, the sky, must bow to Jesus' Name!
The Earth, the sea, the sun, the stars, the sky, must bow to Jesus' Name!
Hallelujah!
Kings, crowns, thrones: bow down!
Fall face down: bow down!
Kiss the ground: bow down!
Jesus, you hold the crown!
Bow down!