Story of David and Bathsheba

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Annabeth

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I was just thinking. Everyone always talks about David's sin with Bathsheba but I've always wondered. Was she a helpless victim or a willing participant. Any thoughts?
 
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Tintin

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I was just thinking. Everyone always talks about David's sin with Bathsheba but I've always wondered. Was she a helpless victim or a willing participant. Any thoughts?
I don't know. I do know that in the ancient world, if the king asked for something he got it. And women were believed to be on as similar level to dogs. So, I don't think she had much say in the matter. I'm not saying she's completely innocent, but King David is certainly the instigator of this thing. And as king, he got what he wanted. Bathsheba.
 

Joidevivre

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How innocent can you be bathing on the rooftop where you know King David could see you?
 
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Annabeth

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I suppose that's true. It doesn't necessarily say that she knew he could see her. So you think she wanted him to see her?
 
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Tintin

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How innocent can you be bathing on the rooftop where you know King David could see you?
That's where people bathed, on their rooftops. Also, King David had to be deliberate in his looking at her. I don't think Bathsheba was trying to seduce him or something. I can't believe people are trying to pin this on Bathsheba. Besides King David should've been riding into battle with his men, not staying behind perving on women. There are bad girls of the Bible, but I don't believe Bathsheba was one of them.
 
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How innocent can you be bathing on the rooftop where you know King David could see you?
Check out the topography of the palace and the surrounding houses. It wasn't just a few feet away. She would have appeared to be about the size of a pickle to his eyes.... and it was most likely nighttime.
 

Joidevivre

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Check out the topography of the palace and the surrounding houses. It wasn't just a few feet away. She would have appeared to be about the size of a pickle to his eyes.... and it was most likely nighttime.
But he thought she was beautiful. Poor David just could not sleep, so got up and roamed around on his rooftop one night and saw her bathing. He had to have been close enough to see that she was beautiful.
 
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Tintin

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But he thought she was beautiful. Poor David just could not sleep, so got up and roamed around on his rooftop one night and saw her bathing. He had to have been close enough to see that she was beautiful.
Yes, a beautiful, ritually-clean pickle. Poor David? Poor David? Come on! The palace was far from any other building, like Willie-T mentioned earlier. He had to be looking very deliberately and he probably asked who she was to cover up the fact that he was perving. She was the wife of one of his thirty mighty men. He would've known. And even if he looked, he didn't need to look again. Lust begins in the heart, we all know that.
 
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Check out the topography of the palace and the surrounding houses. It wasn't just a few feet away. She would have appeared to be about the size of a pickle to his eyes.... and it was most likely nighttime.
I've seen some pretty big pickles in my day. Lol. I'm guessing that since Bathsheba's husband was a pretty significant guy in Davids life that they had "partied" together. David knew who Bathsheba was...had seen her up close before...and his eventual sin was born before he saw her on that rooftop....as the size of a pickle.
 

Joidevivre

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LOL - this is getting better than the actual story in II Samuel.
 
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Sirk

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The story of David and Bathsheba is actually one that I get great hope from. That David could be reconciled with God is really awesome considering what he did. I'm an idiot but I've never had anyone murdered...lol. I'm not trying to compare sin or that my sin is somehow less than Davids but his was pretty dang bad. Lol
 
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Tintin

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The story of David and Bathsheba is actually one that I get great hope from. That David could be reconciled with God is really awesome considering what he did. I'm an idiot but I've never had anyone murdered...lol. I'm not trying to compare sin or that my sin is somehow less than Davids but his was pretty dang bad. Lol
Whew! That's a load off of my mind.
 
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Annabeth

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I agree. I imagine all kinds of angles now.
 

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I was just thinking. Everyone always talks about David's sin with Bathsheba but I've always wondered. Was she a helpless victim or a willing participant. Any thoughts?
It's not only the sin with Bathseba, it's also the murder of Uriah...

King David could have had any woman he wanted but he chose Bathseba, the woman of one of his soldiers. And he got rid of Uriah in a very ugly way...
 

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How innocent can you be bathing on the rooftop where you know King David could see you?
Jerusalem was a small place; David's house probably could have seen and overlooked the entire city. It's wrong to imagine this place as a big metropolis. And it was common to use the rooftops to do normal activities, hence the reason there was a law in Deuteronomy that people had to build a fence around their roof.

In any case, I do agree that Bathsheeba probably wasn't as innocent in life as people imagine. Look at how she supposedly received a deathbed wish from David that Solomon would be the heir to the throne. The whole scenario is a little suspicious (1 Kings 1). She seems to clearly be pulling some strings in 1 Kings 2 to have Solomon's potential rivals eliminated. She seems like she might be a little more calculating than is often imagined.
 
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Tintin

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Jerusalem was a small place; David's house probably could have seen and overlooked the entire city. It's wrong to imagine this place as a big metropolis. And it was common to use the rooftops to do normal activities, hence the reason there was a law in Deuteronomy that people had to build a fence around their roof.

In any case, I do agree that Bathsheeba probably wasn't as innocent in life as people imagine. Look at how she supposedly received a deathbed wish from David that Solomon would be the heir to the throne. The whole scenario is a little suspicious (1 Kings 1). She seems to clearly be pulling some strings in 1 Kings 2 to have Solomon's potential rivals eliminated. She seems like she might be a little more calculating than is often imagined.
I think this is more the case: Bathsheba was probably innocent at the advent of the affair, but later on she used her power and authority for her own ends. We're not saying she was innocent for life, just that she may have been with this incident on the roof.
 
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LOL - this is getting better than the actual story in II Samuel.
As should just about all of the Bible. Each of our own individual life's experiences should enrichen the "Living word" in a unique way that makes it even more real to each of us.
 
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Tintin

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I agree. I imagine all kinds of angles now.
I just have to comment. I've seen 'angels' written as 'angles' so many times that I first interpreted your post as being about angels and then I thought, how strange. Then I realised you were talking about looking at the scenarios from many different perspectives.
 
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2 Now when evening came David arose from his bed and walked around on the roof of the king’s house, and from the roof he saw a woman bathing; and the woman was very beautiful in appearance.3 So David sent and inquired about the woman. And one said, “Is this not Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittite?”4 David sent messengers and took her, and when she came to him, he lay with her; and when she had purified herself from her uncleanness, she returned to her house.5 The woman conceived; and she sent and told David, and said, “I am pregnant.” 2 Sam 11:2-5 NASB