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Blackpowderduelist

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throughfaith said:
No I meant which verse do you have where the 12 are preaching to gentiles please ?
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Semantics, the refuge of the man engaged in cognitive dissonance.

There is one church, there is no new nor gentile in Christ Jesus.

There is no salvation outside of Jesus.
 
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throughfaith

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Blackpowderduelist said:
Semantics, the refuge of the man engaged in cognitive dissonance.

There is one church, there is no new nor gentile in Christ Jesus.

There is no salvation outside of Jesus.
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There is one body , Jew and gentile when there is one body Jew and gentile , one body . Again where are the 12 preaching to gentiles please?
 
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throughfaith

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throughfaith said:
There is one body , Jew and gentile when there is one body Jew and gentile , one body . Again where are the 12 preaching to gentiles please?
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There's no redemption outside of christ ,agreed.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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Therefore where ever the Apostles, preached to those who are in Christ Jesus they spoke the church where ever they were.
 
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p_rehbein said:
Wut? You mean if two or three Christians gather at Pizza Hut and say a blessing over their food asking God to bless that food and they ask in the name of Jesus; He will not be there with them?
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Does this reply from the Bible have ANY application to the question ? I don’t think so.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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throughfaith said:
In christ yes . When did that begin ? Not before Acts 2 .
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No. that began the first time that anyone ever believed that God was going to save via Messiah.
And the Messiah came and established his ministry, then he was crucified and resurrected, and after his resurrection he turned over his ministry to his disciples and then he ascended. And his disciples, now Apostles gave instruction to all that they discipled called the church where ever they were in the world.
 
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throughfaith

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Blackpowderduelist said:
So you are saved by Jesus and there is no salvation out side of Jesus.
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Yes through believing the DBR . Appropriated through faith , accessing the grace provided by his resurrection
. 1 cor 15 ,1-4 . 1 cor 1.21 . Eph 1.12 .
The prerequisite to recieve is belief . Believing the DBR for my sins . That is what God requires today .
 
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Blackpowderduelist said:
No. that began the first time that anyone ever believed that God was going to save via Messiah.
And the Messiah came and established his ministry, then he was crucified and resurrected, and after his resurrection he turned over his ministry to his disciples and then he ascended. And his disciples, now Apostles gave instruction to all that they discipled called the church where ever they were in the world.
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Nope . No one was ' in christ ' until the giving of the Holy spirit . Prior to Paul revealing being ' in Jesus ' this was a mystery.
 
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wattie said:
I disagree with this though because the context is primarily about resolving sin issues between Christians in a local church setting.
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One should be able to extrapolate from things that are stated. If Jesus is present when a church is determining whether a member should be dis-fellowshipped, why would He be absent when a few gather for worship? Indeed that is an even greater reason for Him to be present. The Catholic Church (through their Mass) has always insisted on "the Real Presence" of Christ. While the Mass is unscriptural (to say the least) the idea of the presence of Christ during worship is perfectly Scriptural and valid.
 
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CS1 said:
I would like to see those who have well-thought-out Biblical questions that they do not understand or do not agree with..

  1. Please submit the Bible verse or verses
  2. ask your question
  3. why you agree or disagree with the position you have applied from the verses
  4. support with the Bible why you agree or disagree

Thank you,
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  1. 1 Samuel 21:9
  2. why was Goliath's sword behind the ephod?
    1. what does it represent in type?
    2. what does its presence behind the ephod represent?
    3. what does it mean that David was given it? that he hadn't kept it since he took it? that it wound up the possession of the priest?
    4. why was it wrapped up? what does that represent?
    5. what's the analogous complement to this in the NT, in the life of Christ?
  3. i've not really found any actual position on this. basically preachers don't talk about it.
  4. nothing to agree or disagree with ((yet)) - just a question no one seems to be asking and a topic no one seems to be looking into.
 
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