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So are you saying if a Christian does not believe in the rapture they won't get raptured??
That land was given to Israel by God. Regarding the Palestinians, God did not say whoever blesses you I will bless and those who curse you, I will curse. But He did say this regarding Israel, which you are against. Shame on you for speaking against Israel, God's chosen people! The people of Israel will receive Jesus as their Messiah during the last 3 1/2 years before Christ returns to end the age. The Israel whom you are speaking against.
Jesus will be ruling from Jerusalem on the throne of king David during the millennial kingdom and all people on the earth will be required to come and worship there. For Jerusalem will be the capital of the world during the millennial period.
Both the people of Israel and the saints who make it through the great tribulation until Christ returns to the earth to end the age, will be those who will repopulate the earth during the millennial period.
God has not abandoned His people and there are yet prophesies that must yet be fulfilled. You have no idea what you are talking about in this matter.
If you don't believe in the Rapture,,,How can you be watching for it. As in the 10 Virgins, only 5 will be taken. Matthew 24 tells you all about it.
It is YOUR choice!
I will say this, you will have lots of company
The very fact that Israel is back in their own land as a nation after nearly 2000 years, is a testament to the truth and accuracy of God's word.
Blessings to you BladeRunner! This is not directed at you, for I know that you have the truth. But I'm using your post here which is directed to those who oppose the truth.
I would add to that by saying, those who are not looking for the blessed hope, but instead are looking for the wrath of God, are not truly trusting in the Lord's promise.
It seems that there is an underlying principal here in that, Jesus experienced and satisfied God's wrath on behalf of all believers. And therefore, those who are believing that the Lord is going to put his church through his wrath first are not truly believing that Christ suffered wrath on our behalf. Otherwise, why would they believe that we must go through God's wrath before being gathered?
It also reveals that, many do not understand the purpose of God's coming, unprecedented wrath nor the severity and magnitude of it. It is not going to be a walk in the park! During that time no one will have to ask "Is the wrath of God here," for it will be all to frighteningly apparent.
All of those preterists and Amills who believe that all end-time events have already taken place, as well as those who have allegorized/symbolized those events, won't they be surprised when the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments begin to literally take place.
I've said it many times, if the church was to go through God's wrath, it would not be a blessed hope, nor could believers comfort one another about being gathered. What would be the difference if the church was to suffer the same fate as those on the earth who have rejected Christ and have continued living according to the sinful nature? For in that case, both righteous and unrighteous would suffer the same wrath. God does not punish the righteous with the wicked.
The Bridegroom is not going to prepare his bride and then send her through his wrath!
I'm sure we'll have lots of you oily wirgins to remind us....
Or another Harold Camping or two....
Hello 70AD
I support Israel and I find your line of thinking to be either wrong headed just pure hate . ( leaning twords hate in my opinion)
I am what most would call a amillennial concerning my view of eschatology . So you know I don't support Israel because of my eschatology. I support her because it is what a Christian should do . Israel is the freest country in that area of the world. She stands on the frontline of a battle against a evil that seeks to destroy her and you if you call your self a Christian.
Is Isreal perfect no but she is far closer than her neighbors . There is no country that is perfect only Christ's return will bring that about. So for now stop slandering my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ for their eschatological beliefs and give up the hate or go pedal your garbage else where .
Bill
Ok I get the point . I know Israel's shortcomings. That is not the point . Isreal has an represents more freedom than her neighbors. l Israel is a people that is in a battle against a enemy that believes that god will reward them for killing them and you . We can reach both with the Gospel after a much freer Israel prevails in this current battle against evil .
Blessings
Bill
The best and only real way to support Israel is to pray for Jewish eyes to be opened and to recognize Jesus as their Messiah.
The state of Israel and Jews in general will be going through a period of judgement during the last days so that a remnant will be saved at the second coming.
Behold the day of the Lord cometh and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee
For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle and the city shall be taken and the houses rifled
and the women ravished and half of the city shall go forth into captivity and the residue of the people shall not
be cut off from the city. Then shall the Lord go forth and fight against those nations as when he fought in the
day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon on the mount of olives. which is before Jerusalem on the east
and the mount of olives shall cleave in the midst therof towards the east and toward the westand there shall be a very great valley and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north and half of it toward the south. And ye shall flee to the valley of the the mountains.
Zechariah 14 :1-5
The state of Israel and Jews in general will be going through a period of judgement during the last days so that a remnant will be saved at the second coming.
Behold the day of the Lord cometh and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee
For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle and the city shall be taken and the houses rifled
and the women ravished and half of the city shall go forth into captivity and the residue of the people shall not
be cut off from the city. Then shall the Lord go forth and fight against those nations as when he fought in the
day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon on the mount of olives. which is before Jerusalem on the east
and the mount of olives shall cleave in the midst therof towards the east and toward the westand there shall be a very great valley and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north and half of it toward the south. And ye shall flee to the valley of the the mountains.
Zechariah 14 :1-5
What many on this site fail to understand is that Israel is back in the land now it is to prepare them for judgement by God and to bring the population to a position that they will be on their knees begging him to save them. That is the one and only reason they are back in the land.
And it shall come to pass in that day that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come up against jerusalem and pour upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem the spirit of grace and of supplications and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced and they shall mourn for him as one mourneth for his only Son and shall be in bitterness for him as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn
Zechariah 12:9-10
All the promises concerning Israel are fulfilled after Christs return not now as it seems some people think. It is important to realise this because as things get worse for Israel many may start lose hope because they are depending on God to fulfill all the promises this side of the second coming and its not going to happen.
And it shall come to pass in that day that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come up against jerusalem and pour upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem the spirit of grace and of supplications and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced and they shall mourn for him as one mourneth for his only Son and shall be in bitterness for him as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn
Zechariah 12:9-10
All the promises concerning Israel are fulfilled after Christs return not now as it seems some people think. It is important to realise this because as things get worse for Israel many may start lose hope because they are depending on God to fulfill all the promises this side of the second coming and its not going to happen.
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70AD
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The Great Tribulation was was in 70 AD. "This generation shall not pass until all things are fulfilled". Which part of that verse don't you understand. Even the book of Revelation says, "things that will SHORTLY come to pass. This is not 2000 years into the future. This was the 1st century generation when Jerusalem was flattened. This dispensational/rapture rubbish had got nothing to do with Christianity. Revelation 12 was about the remnant of believing Christians who escaped Jerusalem in 70 AD. You have to come out of Darbyism because it's just what the Zionists/Synagogue of Satan want you to believe. You are totally lost.
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70AD
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You don't get it do you. The Church IS Israel. It's the spiritual Israel that Christ sacrificed His life for and you are going on about Zionism which has nothing to do with Bible prophecy. Christ said, "my kingdom is not of this world". This was to be a spiritual kingdom throughout the gentile world, not that fake little land in the middle east who are murdering Palestinians, many of whom are Christians. It's the Palestinians who are the true semetic people, not those Ashkenazi Khazari types from eastern Europe. The Jews are no longer the "chosen ones". Haven't you heard? Old Covenant Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD. A remnant who received salvation went on to establish the Church. What do you think Revelation is all about? Judgement on the Old Covenant Jews and blessings for the New Covernent Christians. I can't believe the amount of false information there is here. I think the Jewish owned media has brain washed you.
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70AD
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How can it be anti-Semitic when the Israelis are not even Semetic in origin. They are Ashkenazi Khazari Jews from eastern Europe. The Palestinians are the true Semetic people, many of which are being persecuted and killed by your friends the Israelis. 35% of Palestinians are Christians and yet you support a nation that murders Palestinian men, women, and children. You are a very ignorant person. You need to do a reality check on what Christianity is and what Semetic is. And for your information if you are in Christ you are in Israel, the spiritual Israel that Christ sacrificed His life for, not the fake Israel in the middle east that was stolen from the Palestinian people, with the help of the British Balfour declaration. Christ said, "my kingdom is not of this world". Did you get that? This was a spiritual kingdom throughout the gentile nations on earth, not a physical one in the middle east.
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70AD
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Absolutely! The stolen land is the whole of Israel which was stolen after the British Balfour declaration in 1917. What right did the British have to divide Palestine up and hand it over to these Khazari Jews from eastern Europe? Countless Palestinians have been displaced from their homes, persecuted, killed and martyred. 35 % of Palestinians are Christian and no, not all of them are terrorists so don't give me that. In order to return to a land they would need to have been there in the first place. Well, 90 % of Israelis are Khazars from eastern Europe, who were never in the land in the first place. Whereas the Palestinians, who are the true Semetic people, have been there for centuries. You are the one that had been brain washed by the Zionist owned media.
Daniel 2:21
[SUP]21 [/SUP]And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:
[SUP]21 [/SUP]And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:
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70AD
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I get my information from a Bible scholar called William Bell and he gets his information from the Bible. Where do you get your information from? Fictional rapture nonsense by LeHaye and John Nelson Darby who were uneducated in Greek or Hebraic symbolism. The scholar I listen to understands both. I'm not saying William Bell knows it all but he interprets the Bible by something called audience relevance. An example: the book of Revelation was written to the seven churches in Asia Minor in the 1st century who were going through persecution. It was not written to dispensationalists/rapturists in the US in the 21st century. Do you see the logic here?
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70AD
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It is sad that you don't know how to interpret the Bible. If you are in Christ then you become a spiritual descendant of Abraham. Biological inheritance no longer means anything. We are not living in the Old Covenant. The modern-day state of Israel doesn't even believe in Christ so how can they be blessed when they are not spiritually descended from Abraham.
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