Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161

JohnDB

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Again, I never said that Covid wasn't relevant. I agree that it is very real, but I don't think vaccinations are the miracle cure! We can argue that if he does receive the jab, what then? Are you positive he wouldn't receive the same result? Because many have been testing positive after getting multiple shots. Not only that but being diagnosed multiple times with Covid. Plus, there have been many that have all of a sudden died right after receiving the vaccination. Except, they WILL NOT tell you! They keep suppressing that information in the mainstream media. Did you by any chance receive the shot before your husband, assuming he is your husband. I'm also curious to his age? I'm sorry he is going through that.

I'm sorry, but what gain do we have by spreading propaganda? We aren't the ones making up to $5000-10,000 per patient, or per week by saying covid. Also worldwide there have been many credible PhD Doctors that have been saying otherwise from what the mainstream has been saying on this. Specifically because of the "spike protein" that is manufactured, which actually attacks the immune system as well. Creating blood clots!

Recommend taking Vitamin D3 (liquid form) up to 4-5000mg if infected, regular dose is 1000mg, lobelia (liquid form, which helps lungs), vitamin c, and zinc. They also keep discouraging us from taking medicine like ivermectin, which actually is proven to help. My Moms friend is under going a trial to see the effects on immune system and took ivermectin along with the others and he personally said it helped him feel instantly better. I would do more research on it! Also I would be wary to pay attention to the top results of the search because they are obviously biased on it. They have set up their algorithms to show you what they want you to see!

Once again I'm sorry what happened to Fil and prayers! Ultimately it is YOUR choice and I'm not trying to force anything on anyone, unlike the other side which is literally cramming this down our throats and treating it like we HAVE NO choice but take the jab. Just giving an alternative point of view, which I am aware goes against the grain. I'm not here for means of manipulation, but to encourage people to do research and come to a conclusion like I have been saying in these posts.

Even then, we have eternity to look foreword to! Not saying we should rush to get there, but this life is temporary! It is nothing but a vapor.

Praying for Fil!
If there wasn't the propaganda he would have gotten vaccinated and been just fine like his brothers and sisters are...they got vaxxed and are not effected by coronavirus. My MIL got the monoclonal antibodies but to this day she still has long Covid symptoms...

Their daughter (SIL) has been vaccinated and has heart issues but is just fine...

Everyone I know that has had Covid has had severe issues afterwards...from still eating tasteless mush to kidney issues, liver issues, endocrine system problems, immune system issues and on and on it goes...

But those who have been vaccinated have fared very well...no long term effects or problems even if they did get a case of Covid... barely a week of sniffles and tiredness.

There's my personal experience and I know hundreds of people...might be in the thousands. However I have lost several friends and acquaintances to this terrible disease. One was just after Thanksgiving with another devout antivaxxer died...left a wife, two girls and a son without a dad/husband...they are going to have a very difficult time going forward because she doesn't have a career...
 

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Everyone I know that has had Covid has had severe issues afterwards...from still eating tasteless mush to kidney issues, liver issues, endocrine system problems, immune system issues and on and on it goes...
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What, don't I count as someone you know? Yes it took months to fully recover, but I do feel I have fully recovered.
 

kinda

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Does 20,000 confirmed deaths and close to 1,000,000 severe reactions to the Covid 19 Vaxx in the U.S.A., mean enough not to get vaccinated, or do people want to see more evidence from next year to change their mind? I believe these are from Vaers.

Sudden death syndrome?!?!

I have some experience in the medical system, not gonna say how, but I can tell you that doctors make a lot of mistakes, and the medical system is so messed up, I'm surprised people actually trust it. Just my opinion.

Medical system is all about the dollars, protecting the system, and talking down to patients like their children. You should always question your doctor, always, always, always, and do your own research. If you don't you will be sorry many, many, and many times. You might of been lucky so far, but it give it some time......
 

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[QUOTE" I just noticed that you can change your vote in the poll. I wonder if anyone will change their vote during the life of this thread based on the information that is posted by the posters? This should be interesting. "[/QUOTE]

For me it will stay NO permanently . I'm just wondering what the poll would look like if the question was Why are you taking the jab ? Is it strickly out of fear ? If you don't take the vax you will loose your job, and you can not enter some public places unless you have proof of the jab. ( greenpass anyone ? ) Or is it strictly for health reasons ?

Also looking forward, what would happen if the powers that be decide to make the vax mandatory for everyone no matter what your political or religious convictions are ? What if they start issuing fines and even imprisonment for those who refuse to take the jab ?
 

JohnDB

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Does 20,000 confirmed deaths and close to 1,000,000 severe reactions to the Covid 19 Vaxx in the U.S.A., mean enough not to get vaccinated, or do people want to see more evidence from next year to change their mind? I believe these are from Vaers.

Sudden death syndrome?!?!

I have some experience in the medical system, not gonna say how, but I can tell you that doctors make a lot of mistakes, and the medical system is so messed up, I'm surprised people actually trust it. Just my opinion.

Medical system is all about the dollars, protecting the system, and talking down to patients like their children. You should always question your doctor, always, always, always, and do your own research. If you don't you will be sorry many, many, and many times. You might of been lucky so far, but it give it some time......
Your numbers are blatant fabrications.

Not just fudged...but outrageous lies.

If there were truly those sorts of results there would have been proof showing up long long ago with the half million volunteers of the double blind trials. But there wasn't...

However there is an increased placebo effect from all the lying propaganda. Meaning those against the vaccines are responsible for millions of deaths and disabilities.
 

JohnDB

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[QUOTE" I just noticed that you can change your vote in the poll. I wonder if anyone will change their vote during the life of this thread based on the information that is posted by the posters? This should be interesting. "
For me it will stay NO permanently . I'm just wondering what the poll would look like if the question was Why are you taking the jab ? Is it strickly out of fear ? If you don't take the vax you will loose your job, and you can not enter some public places unless you have proof of the jab. ( greenpass anyone ? ) Or is it strictly for health reasons ?

Also looking forward, what would happen if the powers that be decide to make the vax mandatory for everyone no matter what your political or religious convictions are ? What if they start issuing fines and even imprisonment for those who refuse to take the jab ?[/QUOTE]
I'd fight with them until they all got sick and died.

I'm definitely against mandates...it's a human rights violation.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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If there wasn't the propaganda he would have gotten vaccinated and been just fine like his brothers and sisters are...they got vaxxed and are not effected by coronavirus. My MIL got the monoclonal antibodies but to this day she still has long Covid symptoms...

Their daughter (SIL) has been vaccinated and has heart issues but is just fine...

Everyone I know that has had Covid has had severe issues afterwards...from still eating tasteless mush to kidney issues, liver issues, endocrine system problems, immune system issues and on and on it goes...

But those who have been vaccinated have fared very well...no long term effects or problems even if they did get a case of Covid... barely a week of sniffles and tiredness.

There's my personal experience and I know hundreds of people...might be in the thousands. However I have lost several friends and acquaintances to this terrible disease. One was just after Thanksgiving with another devout antivaxxer died...left a wife, two girls and a son without a dad/husband...they are going to have a very difficult time going forward because she doesn't have a career...
If there wasn't the propaganda he would have gotten vaccinated and been just fine like his brothers and sisters are...they got vaxxed and are not effected by coronavirus. My MIL got the monoclonal antibodies but to this day she still has long Covid symptoms...

Their daughter (SIL) has been vaccinated and has heart issues but is just fine...

Everyone I know that has had Covid has had severe issues afterwards...from still eating tasteless mush to kidney issues, liver issues, endocrine system problems, immune system issues and on and on it goes...

But those who have been vaccinated have fared very well...no long term effects or problems even if they did get a case of Covid... barely a week of sniffles and tiredness.

There's my personal experience and I know hundreds of people...might be in the thousands. However I have lost several friends and acquaintances to this terrible disease. One was just after Thanksgiving with another devout antivaxxer died...left a wife, two girls and a son without a dad/husband...they are going to have a very difficult time going forward because she doesn't have a career...
Oh ok, so are you going to blame the antivaxxer for leaving his family? It's obvious your convinced that we are to blame, regardless of the information I gave you. Regardless that after taking the vaccine you still catch Covid...? That doesn't make sense to me. So what different outcome would you expect if Fil did take the vaccine and still caught Covid? You think it would be different, and how?

What about a guarantee of 98-100% effectiveness, but then it didn't work?!! Now we have to take another shot, and another shot, oh...now a booster! Does that seem reliable to you? Not to me and many others that notice the shenanigans. What about the rapid rate that our rights are being stripped away and literally people are forced to take vaccinations or lose their livelihood?! I'm guessing your all for that because who cares about evidence anymore.

Again, it's your choice, and I'm not the one that's forcing anything upon you. Just keep me updated about those that have been vaccinated including you because I would like to know. I'll also keep you updated of my circumstances. So far I've been around people that have caught Covid, got vaccinated and caught covid, and by the Grace of God He has taken care of me. One thing is for sure is that I am not going to live in fear!!
 

TruthSeekerJG

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What, don't I count as someone you know? Yes it took months to fully recover, but I do feel I have fully recovered.
Exactly! No, she's just going along with the world consensus and of course wanting to blame us, regardless of FACTS!
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Does 20,000 confirmed deaths and close to 1,000,000 severe reactions to the Covid 19 Vaxx in the U.S.A., mean enough not to get vaccinated, or do people want to see more evidence from next year to change their mind? I believe these are from Vaers.

Sudden death syndrome?!?!

I have some experience in the medical system, not gonna say how, but I can tell you that doctors make a lot of mistakes, and the medical system is so messed up, I'm surprised people actually trust it. Just my opinion.

Medical system is all about the dollars, protecting the system, and talking down to patients like their children. You should always question your doctor, always, always, always, and do your own research. If you don't you will be sorry many, many, and many times. You might of been lucky so far, but it give it some time......
Ain't that the truth! I actually had a friend that was an administrator and pretty much told me that they can pretty much get away with murder!! What does that tell you? Not only that but have a friend that is a Nurse Practitioner that literally traveled to go take care of Covid patients and guess what? She doesn't even want to take the vaccine or force/brainwash their kids into taking it because of fear.
 

kinda

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Your numbers are blatant fabrications.

Not just fudged...but outrageous lies.

If there were truly those sorts of results there would have been proof showing up long long ago with the half million volunteers of the double blind trials. But there wasn't...

However there is an increased placebo effect from all the lying propaganda. Meaning those against the vaccines are responsible for millions of deaths and disabilities.
"As of Nov. 2, people have reported to VAERS 14,506 deaths that occurred sometime after COVID-19 vaccination. Doctors at the CDC review each reported death, looking at death certificates, autopsy and medical records. "

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/does-vaers-list-deaths-caused-by-covid-19-vaccines

Look, true information is hard to find these days due to censorship, but eventually the truth will be told. Dr. Fauci said, the vaccines have waning immunity, this after he said, it's safe and effective. Dr. Fauci has changed his mind about face masks, do you want to see the videos?

I will also admit, that I cherry picked that quote above, but the main thing I'm trying get across, we don't really know. We are all subjected to what the tell us, since freedom of information is being completely controlled. If you don't think so, keep watching your netflix, and have a nice day. Seen any good sports games lately?


Ain't that the truth! I actually had a friend that was an administrator and pretty much told me that they can pretty much get away with murder!! What does that tell you?
I have been blessed to be around many medical professionals due to church and recreational activities, one guy told me his son (who is a doctor) kills patients, so they don't suffer. Literally said that, and this was at a Church. This is just scratching the surface. I'm gonna let people decide how far the rabbit hole goes.

I have so much respect for the Amish people, seen a video where he said, his community has 100% herd immunity, since they made everyone get Covid, and now they don't worry about it any more. He also said, they have three rules that they live by....Don't trust the government, don't trust the education system, and don't trust the medical system. He later went on and said, the C-19 situation checks all the three rules.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Your numbers are blatant fabrications.

Not just fudged...but outrageous lies.

If there were truly those sorts of results there would have been proof showing up long long ago with the half million volunteers of the double blind trials. But there wasn't...

However there is an increased placebo effect from all the lying propaganda. Meaning those against the vaccines are responsible for millions of deaths and disabilities.
Sorry, but your not g
"As of Nov. 2, people have reported to VAERS 14,506 deaths that occurred sometime after COVID-19 vaccination. Doctors at the CDC review each reported death, looking at death certificates, autopsy and medical records. "

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/does-vaers-list-deaths-caused-by-covid-19-vaccines

Look, true information is hard to find these days due to censorship, but eventually the truth will be told. Dr. Fauci said, the vaccines have waning immunity, this after he said, it's safe and effective. Dr. Fauci has changed his mind about face masks, do you want to see the videos.

I will also admit, that I cherry picked that quote above, but the main thing I'm trying get across, we don't really know. We are all subjected to what the tell us, since freedom of information is being completely controlled. If you don't think so, keep watching your netflix, and have a nice day. Seen any good sports games lately?




I have been blessed to be around many medical professionals due to church and recreational activities, one guy told me his son (who is a doctor) kills patients, so they don't suffer. Literally said that, and this was at a Church. This is just scratching the surface. I'm gonna let people decide how far the rabbit hole goes.

I have so much respect for the Amish people, seen a video where he said, his community has 100% herd immunity, since they made everyone get Covid, and now they don't worry about it any more. He also said, they have three rules that they live by....Don't trust the government, don't trust the education system, and don't trust the medical system. He later went on and said, the C-19 situation checks all the three rules.
Wise instructions from the Amish! Which all three systems are corrupt! Exactly, they just want to remain comfy at home, watch their idols, and remain ignorant of what's really going on. They have no idea of how much research we have looked into and how many different points of views we've listened to, articles, etc. They just go along with whatever they are told to believe in without question. Brainwashed.

Oh how convenient it is to just turn on the tv watch the spoon fed news and automatically say it's fact! Who cares about other professionals that say otherwise. Sorry, it kinda pissed me off how she implied that the antivaxxer that passed away just left his family.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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[QUOTE" I just noticed that you can change your vote in the poll. I wonder if anyone will change their vote during the life of this thread based on the information that is posted by the posters? This should be interesting. "
For me it will stay NO permanently . I'm just wondering what the poll would look like if the question was Why are you taking the jab ? Is it strickly out of fear ? If you don't take the vax you will loose your job, and you can not enter some public places unless you have proof of the jab. ( greenpass anyone ? ) Or is it strictly for health reasons ?

Also looking forward, what would happen if the powers that be decide to make the vax mandatory for everyone no matter what your political or religious convictions are ? What if they start issuing fines and even imprisonment for those who refuse to take the jab ?[/QUOTE]

Already happening in Australia and different areas. Only a matter of time!
 

JohnDB

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Oh ok, so are you going to blame the antivaxxer for leaving his family? It's obvious your convinced that we are to blame, regardless of the information I gave you. Regardless that after taking the vaccine you still catch Covid...? That doesn't make sense to me. So what different outcome would you expect if Fil did take the vaccine and still caught Covid? You think it would be different, and how?

What about a guarantee of 98-100% effectiveness, but then it didn't work?!! Now we have to take another shot, and another shot, oh...now a booster! Does that seem reliable to you? Not to me and many others that notice the shenanigans. What about the rapid rate that our rights are being stripped away and literally people are forced to take vaccinations or lose their livelihood?! I'm guessing your all for that because who cares about evidence anymore.

Again, it's your choice, and I'm not the one that's forcing anything upon you. Just keep me updated about those that have been vaccinated including you because I would like to know. I'll also keep you updated of my circumstances. So far I've been around people that have caught Covid, got vaccinated and caught covid, and by the Grace of God He has taken care of me. One thing is for sure is that I am not going to live in fear!!
Oh...
I'm not going to hold you responsible for murder....God is..

Something about "every idle word".
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Oh ok, so are you going to blame the antivaxxer for leaving his family? It's obvious your convinced that we are to blame, regardless of the information I gave you. Regardless that after taking the vaccine you still catch Covid...? That doesn't make sense to me. So what different outcome would you expect if Fil did take the vaccine and still caught Covid? You think it would be different, and how?

What about a guarantee of 98-100% effectiveness, but then it didn't work?!! Now we have to take another shot, and another shot, oh...now a booster! Does that seem reliable to you? Not to me and many others that notice the shenanigans. What about the rapid rate that our rights are being stripped away and literally people are forced to take vaccinations or lose their livelihood?! I'm guessing your all for that because who cares about evidence anymore.

Again, it's your choice, and I'm not the one that's forcing anything upon you. Just keep me updated about those that have been vaccinated including you because I would like to know. I'll also keep you updated of my circumstances. So far I've been around people that have caught Covid, got vaccinated and caught covid, and by the Grace of God He has taken care of me. One thing is for sure is that I am not going to live in fear!!
*Correction*
Not me that got vaccinated, but been around co-workers that have been vaccinated and still caught covid and got sick.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Oh...
I'm not going to hold you responsible for murder....God is..

Something about "every idle word".
Likewise sista! I'm not accusing you like you have been accusing us just for simply sharing the TRUTH! Which of course is being censored and harder for us to find unless we know where to look versus just turning on the tv and saying, "ok, that's truth....."
 

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Sorry, but your not g


Wise instructions from the Amish! Which all three systems are corrupt! Exactly, they just want to remain comfy at home, watch their idols, and remain ignorant of what's really going on. They have no idea of how much research we have looked into and how many different points of views we've listened to, articles, etc. They just go along with whatever they are told to believe in without question. Brainwashed.

Oh how convenient it is to just turn on the tv watch the spoon fed news and automatically say it's fact! Who cares about other professionals that say otherwise. Sorry, it kinda pissed me off how she implied that the antivaxxer that passed away just left his family.
Well, why not? If they go along with the system they get to travel, eat at fancy places, keep their jobs, and blame everyone that isn't vaccinated. They literally have no incentive to not get vaccinated, and every reason to get vaccinated. Maybe they got free french fries, hamburgers, or lottery tickets?!?!

Can anyone tell the side effects of the vaccine, now tell me why you want to risk it? Death is a known side effect, I'm out especially since we are just barely in year one of the trials.

It's their choice, they think they are on the winning team, but they are listening to people who want population control, or population reduction. Bill Gates the big pusher of the vaccine has said, he thinks vaccines will help reduce the population. Then the majority of people are saying, the vaccine saves lives!?!?! It's like people believe in dual realities.
 

JohnDB

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Likewise sista! I'm not accusing you like you have been accusing us just for simply sharing the TRUTH!
Sharing untruths you mean...

The numbers you quoted are absolute fabrications...

You are partly guilty of murder and maiming...I understand that people who are guilty of such refuse to accept that they are guilty of anything...but that simply isn't the truth.

God will hold you responsible...not me...but I'll be one of the witnesses called to testify...as well as all those murdered and maimed.

See....I'm A-political.... politics killed Jesus and you are heavily influenced by known liars and hypocrites...aka politicians.

If you follow scripture you should know this very basic fact.
 

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I would like to say no offense taken. ZNP and I are always jerking our chains.... lol

Having said that I took the 2 shot vaccine not out of fear but bc I want to live as long as the Lord will allow me.It seemed sound to me

I was a sickly child had every known childhood disease but we were not given vaccines. Mumps,chicken pox, measles,asthma,ear infections,sick every winter.

I have lived life in FEAR of an evil man who was supposed to love and raise me. No man will EVER make me fear again!

I had zero effects from the c-19 injections,I am blessed bc this has been a tradgedy for all people's on both sides of the fence.

I would NEVER say one lacks trust or faith in God bc of their choices. I will say we need to show love and share Jesus regardless for none are promised tomorrow.

Pray we pull others from the fire and rejoice with the angels at one lost soul being found.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Oh...
I'm not going to hold you responsible for murder....God is..

Something about "every idle word".
I
Sharing untruths you mean...

The numbers you quoted are absolute fabrications...

You are partly guilty of murder and maiming...I understand that people who are guilty of such refuse to accept that they are guilty of anything...but that simply isn't the truth.

God will hold you responsible...not me...but I'll be one of the witnesses called to testify...as well as all those murdered and maimed.

See....I'm A-political.... politics killed Jesus and you are heavily influenced by known liars and hypocrites...aka politicians.

If you follow scripture you should know this very basic fact.
Um, your accusing me for going along with politics? What are you doing yourself? I don't go along with any side of politics and do research. So sorry, your wrong about your accusation. Just because you say its a fabrication doesn't mean it's not true. Sorry I don't go along with he said she said in order to discredit people. That's way to simple!

You don't think this vaccination is political? What a joke! Your going along with it no matter how much your trying to convince yourself and others.

If you follow scripture you would know that MAN doesn't control disease and God specifically laid out guidelines to live a healthy lifestyle and stay disease free because we already have a built in immune system. How do you think we've been able to survive all these years? I don't think they had vaccines back then....

What about the accuser of the brethren? You aren't doing so? I've simply just asked you questions and given you information that I have literally seen with my eyes.