Thanx for reading my story any insight would be appriciated :)

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Me ty flas shqip vllai po ti smund ta diskutosh pa e lexuar njeher un ndjek vetem fen monotoiste ja ke iden si dyfishohen ato rrofsh
Tashi me thon te drejten un nuk ndjej ndonje ndjenje te madhe frymezimi me lexu kuranin pasi konceptet e meposhtme e bojn i cik te hidhur muhabetin:

1. Zoti eshte gjeneral ushtarak. Me duket shum ide absurde kjo.
2. Shpirti kur nderrojme jete dhe kur takon Zotin duket te flasi Arabisht? Kjo eshte i cik ide a cmendur, por do te gjith e pranojne ket, neper grupet myslymane. Dmth po s'fole Arabisht e hongre! lol
3. Edhe me a rendesishmja, Krishti nuk vdiq? Dmth si e shpjegon ti ket? Romaket ishin specialist me vra njerez, edhe ate dit kur a kryqezuan, Ai nuk vidq ..... ajo qe pane robt ishte nje enderr? Ca llogjike eshte kjo dmth?

Tani, me sa i perket feve te tjera, une nga zemra ime e di qe Krishti eshte i vetmi qe ndjek, por, edhe kjo eshte e rendesishme, un nuk e di nese keta qe besojne ne fe te tjera do shkojne ne Ferr, sepse sic te thashe, un nuk jam Zoti. Vetem Zoti e di ate pune.
Un thejsht deri tani di qe Krishti me jeten dhe mesazhin e tij ploteson shume profeci nga testamenti i vjeter dhe me jeten dhe mrekullite qe beri tregoi nje lidhje te re me Zotin dhe e shkaterroi konceptin e vdekjes dmth.
 

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Thats exactly what im doin but by your words you are saying that there are many Gods while the truth is universe has only one GOD which send down the bible and quran also thnx for your time
Not what I said, there is only one GOD as explained in the bible.
 
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Tashi me thon te drejten un nuk ndjej ndonje ndjenje te madhe frymezimi me lexu kuranin pasi konceptet e meposhtme e bojn i cik te hidhur muhabetin:

1. Zoti eshte gjeneral ushtarak. Me duket shum ide absurde kjo.
2. Shpirti kur nderrojme jete dhe kur takon Zotin duket te flasi Arabisht? Kjo eshte i cik ide a cmendur, por do te gjith e pranojne ket, neper grupet myslymane. Dmth po s'fole Arabisht e hongre! lol
3. Edhe me a rendesishmja, Krishti nuk vdiq? Dmth si e shpjegon ti ket? Romaket ishin specialist me vra njerez, edhe ate dit kur a kryqezuan, Ai nuk vidq ..... ajo qe pane robt ishte nje enderr? Ca llogjike eshte kjo dmth?

Tani, me sa i perket feve te tjera, une nga zemra ime e di qe Krishti eshte i vetmi qe ndjek, por, edhe kjo eshte e rendesishme, un nuk e di nese keta qe besojne ne fe te tjera do shkojne ne Ferr, sepse sic te thashe, un nuk jam Zoti. Vetem Zoti e di ate pune.
Un thejsht deri tani di qe Krishti me jeten dhe mesazhin e tij ploteson shume profeci nga testamenti i vjeter dhe me jeten dhe mrekullite qe beri tregoi nje lidhje te re me Zotin dhe e shkaterroi konceptin e vdekjes dmth.
1 dhe 2 me duken dhe mua absurde dhe nuk gjenden n kuran un hadithet nuk i lexoj edhe sa per 3 esht absurde q njeriu m i lart n bot mesia ose profeti m i madh t vritet nga romaket dhe po se besove shkon n ferr kurani thot q vetem te pastrit mund ta lexojn dhe kuptojn ate dhe pasi e lexova e pranoj plotsisht si libr t ELOHIMIT kumtuar nga engjelli Gabriel esht gati 6400 vargje i gjithi poezi dhe nj njeri q sdinte t lexonte e t shlruante smund ta ket sajuar plus me an te kompjuterave del qe eshte i gjithi si nj kod i madh bej search quran code
 

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1 dhe 2 me duken dhe mua absurde dhe nuk gjenden n kuran un hadithet nuk i lexoj edhe sa per 3 esht absurde q njeriu m i lart n bot mesia ose profeti m i madh t vritet nga romaket dhe po se besove shkon n ferr kurani thot q vetem te pastrit mund ta lexojn dhe kuptojn ate dhe pasi e lexova e pranoj plotsisht si libr t ELOHIMIT kumtuar nga engjelli Gabriel esht gati 6400 vargje i gjithi poezi dhe nj njeri q sdinte t lexonte e t shlruante smund ta ket sajuar plus me an te kompjuterave del qe eshte i gjithi si nj kod i madh bej search quran code
AH po shiko, ketu tani ke dal ne disa koncepte te tjera qe dhe mua me pelqejne edhe dun koh per muhabet. :)

Atehere, pika e pare.
Problemi kryesor i myslymaneve dhe i cifuteve gjithashtu eshte qe ngaqe e kan te kurdisme menjen per lufte, pikerisht thon ket pik: Si ka mundesi qe Zoti vdes?

Tani pergjigjia e kesaj eshte kshu:
Zoti ben cfare te doje ne kete univers edhe sic eshte nje krijues i nji videogame, ai vjen vet dhe futet si lojtar dhe kodin e administratorit.
Edhe e dyta, qe eshte me e rendesishmja, Ai nuk vdiq, por u cu nga varri! Por problemi eshte qe ngaqe e kan menjen te kurdisme per lufte, ket pjesen e dyte, qe Ai u ngrit nga varri, nuk e pranojne, pasi nuk pranojne qe u vra. Menja lomsh dmth.

Per sa i perket shkences, un shkencen e quaj nje dege qe komplimenton besimin ne Zot per ne qe besojme. C'do gje e shkences zmadhon punen dhe bukurine e Zotit. Shkenca nuk eshte hu druni qe rri vetem, jo, shkenca jemi ne njerezit qe bejme pytje: "Si shpjegohet kjo gje?"

Nji nga idete e shkences, pasi ka shume teori, eshte ideja qe realiteti qe shikojme nuk eshte real, eshte iluzion. Me ket i bi qe ata tregojne qe ka nji Krijues dmth. Pra Zoti, si nje krijues i nje loje, mund te beje cfare te doje. Kjo eshte nje menyre qe shpjegon mrekullite neper shekuj dmth.

NJi ide tjeter, thote qe ka shume dimensione. 11 dimensione. Po ta kapesh nga ana shpirterore ket ide, i bie qe disa koncepte qe fliten ne Biblen ne lidhje me krijimin e botes ... ato kan ndodh ne nje dimension tjeter, edhe mbas mekatit te pare, rame ketu poshte, te ndare nga Zoti.

Ka shume me thon ketu sic te thashe edhe dun ore muhabet se duke shkrujt nuk ja bo yzmetin tamom. :)
 
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AH po shiko, ketu tani ke dal ne disa koncepte te tjera qe dhe mua me pelqejne edhe dun koh per muhabet. :)

Atehere, pika e pare.
Problemi kryesor i myslymaneve dhe i cifuteve gjithashtu eshte qe ngaqe e kan te kurdisme menjen per lufte, pikerisht thon ket pik: Si ka mundesi qe Zoti vdes?

Tani pergjigjia e kesaj eshte kshu:
Zoti ben cfare te doje ne kete univers edhe sic eshte nje krijues i nji videogame, ai vjen vet dhe futet si lojtar dhe kodin e administratorit.
Edhe e dyta, qe eshte me e rendesishmja, Ai nuk vdiq, por u cu nga varri! Por problemi eshte qe ngaqe e kan menjen te kurdisme per lufte, ket pjesen e dyte, qe Ai u ngrit nga varri, nuk e pranojne, pasi nuk pranojne qe u vra. Menja lomsh dmth.

Per sa i perket shkences, un shkencen e quaj nje dege qe komplimenton besimin ne Zot per ne qe besojme. C'do gje e shkences zmadhon punen dhe bukurine e Zotit. Shkenca nuk eshte hu druni qe rri vetem, jo, shkenca jemi ne njerezit qe bejme pytje: "Si shpjegohet kjo gje?"

Nji nga idete e shkences, pasi ka shume teori, eshte ideja qe realiteti qe shikojme nuk eshte real, eshte iluzion. Me ket i bi qe ata tregojne qe ka nji Krijues dmth. Pra Zoti, si nje krijues i nje loje, mund te beje cfare te doje. Kjo eshte nje menyre qe shpjegon mrekullite neper shekuj dmth.

NJi ide tjeter, thote qe ka shume dimensione. 11 dimensione. Po ta kapesh nga ana shpirterore ket ide, i bie qe disa koncepte qe fliten ne Biblen ne lidhje me krijimin e botes ... ato kan ndodh ne nje dimension tjeter, edhe mbas mekatit te pare, rame ketu poshte, te ndare nga Zoti.

Ka shume me thon ketu sic te thashe edhe dun ore muhabet se duke shkrujt nuk ja bo yzmetin tamom. :)
Gjigand ti qeke intelektual vlla mvjen mir q je besimtar dhe un ashtu shpresoj nlidhje me shkencen lexo mer burr kuranin se mer shum pergjigje diskutojm per nej gjo.
 

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Gjigand ti qeke intelektual vlla mvjen mir q je besimtar dhe un ashtu shpresoj nlidhje me shkencen lexo mer burr kuranin se mer shum pergjigje diskutojm per nej gjo.
Hahah, ej shiko me i cik kafe dhe bakllava edhe e lexoj po me kismet.
Me bohet qefi qe erdhi dhe nji Shqiptar tjeter ketu. Ka pas dhe nja 2 te tjere po kan ik. Edhe nja 2 goca qe jan tani, nuk jan shume aktive.

Hajt se flasim. :coffee:
 

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The 1st commandment is that theres only one GOD and we shouldnt worship anything beside him this is confirmed in quran by the word I GOD created everything that exists day and night life and death so I test everyone for their deeds and says im god theres none beside me
Only the Bible is the true Word of God, and the Bible says:

1 John 1:3
“That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.”

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

GOD created everything that exists day and night life and death so I test everyone for their deeds and says im god theres none beside me
Jesus and His Father created everything together. The following verses show us that God the Father was never alone. The Word was always with Him. The Word is Jesus.

John 1:
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by Him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

John 1:14
“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”

It was this Word, Jesus, who came down from Heaven to die on a cross to make salvation available to all men. THERE IS NO OTHER SALVATION.

John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

We must believe upon JESUS.
 

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Greetings i was'nt good in school but ill try to get to the point. I was raised in an orthodox christian family but never baptized randomly going to church when i was a kid and my mother forced me to read the ten commandmends and some parts the bible. At teen age i went off GOD way. Going after girls money and drugs i was a mess. Im not proud anymore. At 20s family put me on a christian rehab. I could see glimpses of hope love was around. But i escaped and returned home and read the bible. In 2019 as i was talking to my 2nd brother a white to blue peaceful loving forgiving light entered in my chest. I wept (from joy)and prayed for forgiveness as long as it lasted.at the end i saw hitler? 1 day i saw a dream about walking and talking to Jesus in a mountain. 2020 I got involved in drugs and went to jail once more and i think the last. When they brought me to high security prison I could see the mountains of dream. In jail grabbed a Holy Bible preached gave my clothes and food to those whixh didnt have(family abadonment) and received another 5 lights one more beautiful and special than the other and i wept each time. I managed to understand the 1st light remember. I was in bad and i could feel it dropped from my chest. Later the radio said "norilsk oil spill" a massive oil spill in arctic russia. In the end i received in my chest 2 golden bags of gold, i could see a white heat with golden crown(is this the angel aka the banker?). Mathew 25 right? Great are you GOD. Fastforward to right now im cleaned of drugs havent robbed anhone(dont steal right and dont desire anybody possessions)and observing the commandments but worried to death how to double my masters money. What should I do? Thnx for reading
You've been through many experiences and have asked the right question....
"What should I do? "

Someone asked that same question this way,
Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"

The apostle replied,
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved..."
Acts 16:30...

You also did the right thing by reading the Bible for the answer. No doubt you had some supernatural experiences. I don't know what they mean, but we can know for sure how to be certain of heaven by God's promises.

"These things have I written unto you that ye may know that ye have eternal life."
I John 5

You already asked for answers, so I am happy to share that with you in this video. After you listen to it a time or two with your Bible, feel free to ask me if you have any other questions.

 
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You've been through many experiences and have asked the right question....
"What should I do? "

Someone asked that same question this way,
Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"

The apostle replied,
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved..."
Acts 16:30...

You also did the right thing by reading the Bible for the answer. No doubt you had some supernatural experiences. I don't know what they mean, but we can know for sure how to be certain of heaven by God's promises.

"These things have I written unto you that ye may know that ye have eternal life."
I John 5

You already asked for answers, so I am happy to share that with you in this video. After you listen to it a time or two with your Bible, feel free to ask me if you have any other questions.

It seems small parts of this world are inside of me but i never prayed to jesus and never will only prayed to God Jesus 2 prayed to God. My only way to salvation should be worshiping GOD with my whole soul and body and doing good deeds like helping the poor, be good to everybody especialy to family. After reading the quran for answers i got some insight.
 
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It seems small parts of this world are inside of me but i never prayed to jesus and never will only prayed to God Jesus 2 prayed to God. My only way to salvation should be worshiping GOD with my whole soul and body and doing good deeds like helping the poor, be good to everybody especialy to family. After reading the quran for answers i got some insight.
Jesus prayed to GOD
 
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[Surah Al-Māʾidah: 72]

Those who say, ‘God is the Messiah, son of Mary,’ have defied God. The Messiah himself said, ‘Children of Israel, worship God, my Lord and your Lord.’ If anyone associates others with God, God will forbid him from the Garden, and Hell will be his home. No one will help such evildoers.

[Surah Al-Māʾidah: 73]


Those people who say that God is the third of three are defying [the truth]: there is only One God. If they persist in what they are saying, a painful punishment will afflict those of them who persist.


[Surah Al-Māʾidah: 74]

Why do they not turn to God and ask His forgiveness, when God is most forgiving, most merciful

{ مَّا ٱلۡمَسِيحُ ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَ إِلَّا رَسُولٞ قَدۡ خَلَتۡ مِن قَبۡلِهِ ٱلرُّسُلُ وَأُمُّهُۥ صِدِّيقَةٞۖ كَانَا يَأۡكُلَانِ ٱلطَّعَامَۗ ٱنظُرۡ كَيۡفَ نُبَيِّنُ لَهُمُ ٱلۡأٓيَٰتِ ثُمَّ ٱنظُرۡ أَنَّىٰ يُؤۡفَكُونَ }
[Surah Al-Māʾidah: 75]

The Messiah, son of Mary, was only a messenger; other messengers had come and gone before him; his mother was a virtuous woman; both ate food [like other mortals]. See how clear We make these signs for them; see how deluded they are.

[Surah Al-Māʾidah: 76]
Say, ‘How can you worship something other than God, that has no power to do you harm or good? God alone is the All Hearing and All Knowing.’


[Surah Al-Māʾidah: 77]
Say, ‘People of the Book, do not overstep the bounds of truth in your religion and do not follow the whims of those who went astray before you- they led many others astray and themselves continue to stray from the even path.’



[Surah Al-Māʾidah: 82]

You [Prophet] are sure to find that the most hostile to the believers are the Jews and those who associate other deities with God; you are sure to find that the closest in affection towards the believers are those who say, ‘We are Christians,’ for there are among them people devoted to learning and ascetics. These people are not given to arrogance,

[Surah Al-Māʾidah: 83]

and when they listen to what has been sent down to the Messenger, you will see their eyes overflowing with tears because they recognize the Truth [in it]. They say, ‘Our Lord, we believe, so count us amongst the witnesses.

[Surah Al-Māʾidah: 84]
Why should we not believe in God and in the Truth that has come down to us, when we long for our Lord to include us in the company of the righteous?’


Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
In quran says only the pure in spirit can read it
 

TabinRivCA

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Hi so glad you are joining us from Albania!!! May God bless & keep you always!!!
 

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In quran says only the pure in spirit can read it
Sorry to break the bad news to you, but I must. God's love for you constrains me to do so.

THE QURAN IS A WORK OF FICTION. THIS IS THE SOURCE OF YOUR CONFUSION ABOUT JESUS.

It is anti-Jesus. Islam's purpose is to denigrate Jesus and His people.

The following is the Truth from the True Word of God (the Bible) which you must accept if you ever want to enter the Kingdom of Heaven...

Philippians 2:
5Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Psalms 2:12
“Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.”
 

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#ICAMETOSHARE


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"Vacant of spiritual enlightenment, many deceive their self.
And this appears to be universal."
 

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[Surah Al-Māʾidah: 72]

Those who say, ‘God is the Messiah, son of Mary,’ have defied God. The Messiah himself said, ‘Children of Israel, worship God, my Lord and your Lord.’ If anyone associates others with God, God will forbid him from the Garden, and Hell will be his home. No one will help such evildoers.

[Surah Al-Māʾidah: 73]


Those people who say that God is the third of three are defying [the truth]: there is only One God. If they persist in what they are saying, a painful punishment will afflict those of them who persist.


[Surah Al-Māʾidah: 74]

Why do they not turn to God and ask His forgiveness, when God is most forgiving, most merciful

{ مَّا ٱلۡمَسِيحُ ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَ إِلَّا رَسُولٞ قَدۡ خَلَتۡ مِن قَبۡلِهِ ٱلرُّسُلُ وَأُمُّهُۥ صِدِّيقَةٞۖ كَانَا يَأۡكُلَانِ ٱلطَّعَامَۗ ٱنظُرۡ كَيۡفَ نُبَيِّنُ لَهُمُ ٱلۡأٓيَٰتِ ثُمَّ ٱنظُرۡ أَنَّىٰ يُؤۡفَكُونَ }
[Surah Al-Māʾidah: 75]

The Messiah, son of Mary, was only a messenger; other messengers had come and gone before him; his mother was a virtuous woman; both ate food [like other mortals]. See how clear We make these signs for them; see how deluded they are.

[Surah Al-Māʾidah: 76]
Say, ‘How can you worship something other than God, that has no power to do you harm or good? God alone is the All Hearing and All Knowing.’


[Surah Al-Māʾidah: 77]
Say, ‘People of the Book, do not overstep the bounds of truth in your religion and do not follow the whims of those who went astray before you- they led many others astray and themselves continue to stray from the even path.’



[Surah Al-Māʾidah: 82]

You [Prophet] are sure to find that the most hostile to the believers are the Jews and those who associate other deities with God; you are sure to find that the closest in affection towards the believers are those who say, ‘We are Christians,’ for there are among them people devoted to learning and ascetics. These people are not given to arrogance,

[Surah Al-Māʾidah: 83]

and when they listen to what has been sent down to the Messenger, you will see their eyes overflowing with tears because they recognize the Truth [in it]. They say, ‘Our Lord, we believe, so count us amongst the witnesses.

[Surah Al-Māʾidah: 84]
Why should we not believe in God and in the Truth that has come down to us, when we long for our Lord to include us in the company of the righteous?’


Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
In quran says only the pure in spirit can read it
You are at a crossroads in your life you must decide soon what road to take, Only one road leads to the truth. I have explained before that the GOD of the coran is not at all the same as the GOD of the Bible, there is only ONE GOD. The coran is an invention based in part from the texts of the bible. There is now evidence using technology that the very old original texts were re-written, meaning the original texts were erased from the paper and written again on top. it is not visible to the human eye but visible with x-ray and other methods. the coran is a meaningless forgery. I urge you to follow the words of the Bible and forget, let go of the coran.

Joshua 24:15
15 But if it is unpleasing in your sight to serve the LORD, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your fathers served beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living. As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD!”

Peace.
 
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You are at a crossroads in your life you must decide soon what road to take, Only one road leads to the truth. I have explained before that the GOD of the coran is not at all the same as the GOD of the Bible, there is only ONE GOD. The coran is an invention based in part from the texts of the bible. There is now evidence using technology that the very old original texts were re-written, meaning the original texts were erased from the paper and written again on top. it is not visible to the human eye but visible with x-ray and other methods. the coran is a meaningless forgery. I urge you to follow the words of the Bible and forget, let go of the coran.

Joshua 24:15
15 But if it is unpleasing in your sight to serve the LORD, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your fathers served beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living. As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD!”

Peace.
Peace be upon you too im clear in my belive that there is only one GOD which revealed all the books of monotheism.
https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Monotheism
 
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so you believe both the coran and Bible are about the same GOD? I do not.
{ لَوۡ كَانَ فِيهِمَآ ءَالِهَةٌ إِلَّا ٱللَّهُ لَفَسَدَتَاۚ فَسُبۡحَٰنَ ٱللَّهِ رَبِّ ٱلۡعَرۡشِ عَمَّا يَصِفُونَ }
[Surah Al-Anbiyāʾ: 22]

If there had been in the heavens or earth any gods but Him, both heavens and earth would be in ruins: God, Lord of the Throne, is far above the things they say: