the 2 robbers crusified with Jesus

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Matt 27:44 the robbers who were crucified with Him also reviled him in the same way
Mark 15:32 those who were crucified with Him also reviled him
Luke 23:42 and he said to him "Jesus remember me.." 43 truly I say to you today you will be in paradise with me
John 19:18 there they crucified Him with two others
John 20:17 Jesus said " do not hold me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father"

can any one help me understand , what am I missing?
I ask because I know most stand on Luke 23 as proof we go to heaven immediately after death, ; But the other 3 chapters do not say the same. and then I wonder john 20:17 shows (and we already know) Jesus did not go to Heaven right away (on that day he was crucified) so if Luke vs. 42/43 correct, did the robber go to heaven before Jesus.
Truly I say to you TODAY you will be with me in paradise
 
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