The American empire is over.

[Deadtosin]

This is a 3 hour interview that will show you a reality you do not wish to see.

[video=youtube;7zotYU21qcU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zotYU21qcU[/video][h=1]Chris Hedges[/h] From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Christopher Lynn "Chris" Hedges (born September 18, 1956) is an American journalist specializing in American politics and society. Hedges is also known as the best-selling author of several books including War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning (2002)—a finalist for the National Book Critics Circle Award for Nonfiction—Empire of Illusion: The End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle (2009), Death of the Liberal Class (2010) and his most recent New York Times best seller, written with the cartoonist Joe Sacco, Days of Destruction, Days of Revolt (2012).
Hedges is currently a columnist for news website Truthdig, a senior fellow at The Nation Institute in New York City,[SUP][1][/SUP] and a contributing author for OpEdNews.[SUP][2][/SUP] He spent nearly two decades as a foreign correspondent in Central America, the Middle East, Africa and the Balkans. He has reported from more than fifty countries, and has worked for the Christian Science Monitor, NPR, the Dallas Morning News, and the New York Times,[SUP][3][/SUP] where he was a foreign correspondent for fifteen years (1990–2005).
In 2002, Hedges was part of the team of reporters at the New York Times awarded the Pulitzer Prize for the paper's coverage of global terrorism. He also received the Amnesty International Global Award for Human Rights Journalism in 2002.[SUP][4][/SUP] He has taught at Columbia University, New York University, Princeton University[SUP][3][/SUP] and the University of Toronto.

 

[Nautilus]

I don't think this nation should have ever aspired to be an empire in the first place.

 

[Deadtosin]

I don't think this nation should have ever aspired to be an empire in the first place.

I agree....

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

I too agree; however, within the context that we must be seriously involved in preventing nuclear proliferation lest we end up with a global nuclear holocaust which, of course, is completely unacceptable.

I don't think this nation should have ever aspired to be an empire in the first place.

 

[biscuit]

We tend to forget that God uses nations & individuals to oversees His prophecies. Reeling from the Holocaust and establishing its statehood in 1948, Israel was weak & very vulnerable to outside forces. God appointed USA as its protector and Uncle Sam was richly rewarded. Big brother protecting little sister.

With USA backing off from its obligation to Israel by trying to force her to give up sacred land that God has given to her, God is slowly backing off from the USA as a untouched superpower with waning influence and a weaker economy.

 

[oldthennew]

it is becoming very obvious that the stage is being set
for the rage of the Great Tribulation.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Overlooking his flawed leftist politics (e.g. he's a "progressive" socialist) and incidents of plagiarism, the fact remains that Chris is a passionate, intelligent, analytical (three positive characteristics which when found together can never be ignored) journalist with a historical competency.

And, interestingly, he consistently displays integrity and courage in directly confronting the establishment without respect to whether or not they're on the left or the right much like Pat Buchanan does. That's rare in today's political climate.

So, he's a mixed bag that despite being on the left gets things right. And the topics he gets right are of critical importance to the future success of the nation and it's populace.

For example; Chris is against monopoly capitalism, political corruption, the present broken trade paradigm, neo-conservative warmongering, liberal hypocrisy, etc... <-- I certainly am too.

He's someone on the left that I personally can live with... that is, as long as I get to correct what he gets wrong .

 

[prodigal]

We tend to forget that God uses nations & individuals to oversees His prophecies. Reeling from the Holocaust and establishing its statehood in 1948, Israel was weak & very vulnerable to outside forces. God appointed USA as its protector and Uncle Sam was richly rewarded. Big brother protecting little sister.

With USA backing off from its obligation to Israel by trying to force her to give up sacred land that God has given to her, God is slowly backing off from the USA as a untouched superpower with waning influence and a weaker economy.

Luke 6:27-36 ESV

“But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.



Romans 12:14 ESV

Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them.


Romans 12:20 ESV

To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.”


Matthew 5:43-48 ESV

“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?





Luke 23:34 ESV

And Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” And they cast lots to divide his garments.



Matthew 5:38-39 ESV

“You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.


Matthew 26:52-54 ESV

Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword. Do you think that I cannot appeal to my Father, and he will at once send me more than twelve legions of angels? But how then should the Scriptures be fulfilled, that it must be so?”


Matthew 5







[SUP]9 [/SUP]“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons[SUP][a][/SUP] of God.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]“Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]“Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. [SUP]12 [/SUP]Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

i wonder if you can help me, as you said,' God appointed USA as its protector,' i'm looking for the scripture where Jesus says to use military force to protect a people and i cant find any. In fact the new testament which contains the newcovenant, tells us to follow/ copy Jesus and he seems to be tottally against people going to war. In fact he speaks a lot about the end times and doesn't mention israels return once, nor does it anywhere else in new testament... strange would have thought he'd mention such a major event. the promise of the seed of abraham was talking about Jesus not Israel, So as for me and my household we will follow Jesus.

John 8
[SUP]41 [/SUP]You do the deeds of your father.”
Then they said to Him, “We were not born of fornication; we have one Father—God.”
[SUP]42 [/SUP]Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. [SUP]43 [/SUP]Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. [SUP]44 [/SUP]You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. [SUP]45 [/SUP]But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. [SUP]46 [/SUP]Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? [SUP]47 [/SUP]He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.”


So as for me i'll follow Jesus and what he says and consider torah believing jews against zionist, christian or otherwise, rather than a people he called the seed of satan.

[video=youtube;nMQ9C6vni0w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMQ9C6vni0w[/video]

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

We really weren't through most of our history. Sure, most Americans shared a common belief in a manifest destiny with respect to American settlers expanding across the North American continent but Americans had had little interest in territorial expansion outside of that (except for Alaska which we purchased from the Russians). Hawaii didn't become a state until 1959.

In 1890, the United States was not a great military or diplomatic power. Its army numbered less than 30,000 troops, and its navy had only about 10,000 seamen. Compare that with 2011 in which the U.S. military had 1,429,995 active duty personnel, 850,880 reserve personnel, and 108,833 other DOD personnel for a total of 2,389,708 personnel.

WWI is what brought the U.S. out of its slumber. We mobilized about 4,000,000 troops during WWI; however, after WWI we did the right thing and stood down. But the "war to end all wars" was followed by WWII reawakening us from our isolation. Getting bombed on will do that.

We would have stood down after WWII but state atheistic Marxist Communism had taken hold of about half of the world in a totalitarian grip and threatened the entire world. So we never stood down and went through the Cold War in a perpetual state of readiness which continues today.

I believe we had a real chance to stand down after the fall of the Soviet Union but old habits die hard and our good start with the new Russian Federation has fallen to pieces. You could say we're in a second Cold War at this point though not anywhere to the extent which occurred in the first one. I mean we were doing nuclear bomb drills at elementary schools across the country during that one and people were digging bomb shelters in their back yards. Science, technology, and engineering were what people aspired toward not rap musician and street gang drug dealer. My how the times have changed.

But back to the topic, it's always a very dangerous situation when the neo-cons take power because they are always very eager to move into new hot wars even if they have to start them. And that's a real ongoing problem.

A good example of the level of their insanity with regard to unnecessary and undesirable warmongering is when Palin said the U.S. has to extend NATO all the way up to Russia's border and then when Gibson asked her "And under the NATO treaty, wouldn’t we then have to go to war if Russia went into Georgia? [or the Ukraine, Estonia, etc...]" Palin answered "Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you’re going to be expected to be called upon and help."

The crazy neoconnette would go into a nuclear thermal hot war with Russia over their failure to accept NATO on their border!

I about fell out of my chair. Neo-cons are dangerous people because of their warmongering ideology. And they can't put themselves in the shoes of others. I mean, how would neo-cons like it if China incorporated Mexico and put a million Chinese troops along our southern border? Seriously.

But our national debt has gotten so enormous, as have the annual interest payments on the skyrocketing debt, that we're simply not going to be able pay the cost of large global wars in one to two decades. Watch social services get cut to the nub within twenty years.

And we really can't do that anyways, because so many nations are nuclear now. It's not WWII when the nuclear state didn't exist and we could go into a global conventional war and win and use that to pull us out of our economic problems.

We've got two deeply flawed political parties in this country and they are both intractably committed to their flawed ideologies. It's going to get much worse before it gets better. Mark my words.

I don't think this nation should have ever aspired to be an empire in the first place.

 

[David_1]

trying to force her to give up sacred land that God has given to her,

Your God is Great Britain????

Or is this an Episcopalian thing??

 

[ThomistColin]

Your God is Great Britain????

Or is this an Episcopalian thing??

David, no matter your political leanings, everyone who has read Scripture knows that the Holy Land was given to Abraham and his descendants through Isaac. So, whether it was Great Britain and the United States or Russia or whoever, it's not unbelievable that God's hand could have been involved in reinstating a Jewish nation.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

I've seen the behavior before. I once knew a guy in a Victory Outreach men's home (I was friends with the director) who only accepted those parts of the bible that fit his radical leftist socio-political ideology.

The rest of it he used to roll blunts with. He said he used to be in a band. I told him that he should become a rock star. He said he'd already done that. I found out later he meant he used to smoke crack and that rock star is a street name for a crack head. Here, I think I found a clip...

[video=youtube_share;4ok4-H_w9Fs]http://youtu.be/4ok4-H_w9Fs[/video]

Lolol.

David, no matter your political leanings, everyone who has read Scripture knows that the Holy Land was given to Abraham and his descendants through Isaac. So, whether it was Great Britain and the United States or Russia or whoever, it's not unbelievable that God's hand could have been involved in reinstating a Jewish nation.

 

[didymos]

[video=youtube;nMQ9C6vni0w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMQ9C6vni0w[/video]

I wish they had included the afterparty in that video too.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Not all orthodox Jews support the existence of the state of Israel. Here's the reasons they list for not doing so: Why Orthodox Jews are Opposed to the Zionist State

But if you look at the Pew Research Study on the subject here: http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/10/jewish-american-beliefs-attitudes-culture-survey-overview.pdf

You can clearly see that almost all of the Jews in the U.S. who identify as orthodox (about 10% of the U.S. Jewish population with the rest being reformed or secular Jews) DO support Israel.

My point is not to get carried away by that video into thinking that most orthodox Jews don't support the state of Israel in the U.S. because they certainly do.

 

[DaGster]

The title says:
The American empire is over.


listen to this one hour radio broadcast from Rick Wiles from TruNews.com that just went live 9/17/14. You might not like what you are about to hear about the very near future of this country!

Rick Wiles TruNews "Heads Up" Warning

 

[wisebeardman]

never wanted my nation to be an empire anyway

 

[DaGster]

Just in case the previous link doesn't work. PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO!

[video=youtube_share;OjB_JT885SE]http://youtu.be/OjB_JT885SE[/video]

 

[biscuit]

Your God is Great Britain????

Or is this an Episcopalian thing??

It's in the Scriptures if you care to read it sometimes.

 

[DaGster]

FOLKS, PLEASE TAKE THE TIME AND LISTEN TO THE ONE HOUR RADIO BROADCAST THAT UPLOADED FROM TRUNEWS.COM. THIS INTERVIEW WILL BLOW YOU AWAY!!