The Bible's theme in a nutshell?

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vassal said:
God created man in His own image, a reflection of divine splendor and purpose. The Almighty, in His wisdom, bestowed upon us the sacred Commandments, a beacon to guide our steps and mold our hearts. Yet, our frailty led us astray, and sin entered the world, casting shadows upon our path.
But from the heart of heaven came our Savior, Jesus, who bore the weight of our transgressions and paid the price for our sins. Through His sacrifice, the chasm between us and the Divine was bridged. Thus, the Kingdom of Heaven will be established, a realm of purity, beauty and truth where the faithful who seek it with humble hearts shall dwell in God's eternal light.
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A very good summary. However, the word "frailty" is too weak. I would substitute "rebellion." As a teaching and preaching tool, it needs to be more memorable, though.
 
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Bruce_Leiter said:
The "all-things" would be given to perfected believers when we live on the new earth.
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Who says that believers will live on the new earth? That is totally false. The eternal home of the saints is in the New Jerusalem, which will definitely not be on earth. It will remain a heavenly body.
 
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Bruce_Leiter said:
I completely agree, but the history of human failure to worship and serve God magnifies what Jesus did for us.
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who is watching Him make a creature with freedom to sin then give His own life in mercy and love to redeem that creature from his mistakes?

what is God demonstrating, and to who? and why?

it's not all about us.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Who says that believers will live on the new earth? That is totally false. The eternal home of the saints is in the New Jerusalem, which will definitely not be on earth. It will remain a heavenly body.
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Why, then, does Jesus give John the vision of the new Jerusalem coming down out of heaven to the new earth (Revelation 21 and 22)?
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Who says that believers will live on the new earth? That is totally false. The eternal home of the saints is in the New Jerusalem, which will definitely not be on earth. It will remain a heavenly body.
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To call an interpretation of the Bible "totally false" needs to have biblical support. Do you have any? By the way, the idea of the soul flitting away from our corrupt bodies, never to return to them is Greek in origin, not biblical. Our bodies will be resurrected and perfected.
 
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Bruce_Leiter said:
Our bodies will be resurrected and perfected.
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To live where? On earth? Evidently you know very little about this but want biblical support. The eternal home of the saints is the New Jerusalem. It is presently occupied by the saints and they will continue to live there after the Resurrection/Rapture. The Bible says that "our citizenship is in Heaven". That should suffice. And that is why our "vile bodies" will be changed into the likeness of His glorious body. Will Christ be in the New Jerusalem eternally? Search it out for yourself. And did He say "that where I am ye may be also"? Check it out for yourself.
 
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TMS said:
The Bible theme in a nutshell???

Ecc 12:13
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
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No, because we can't obey the commandments of God perfectly the way he wants us to. Jesus is our Substitute in live, death, and resurrection power to be able to fight Satan and make spiritual progress in obeying him. Always remember the Bible is God's history, the climax of which is Jesus.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
To live where? On earth? Evidently you know very little about this but want biblical support. The eternal home of the saints is the New Jerusalem. It is presently occupied by the saints and they will continue to live there after the Resurrection/Rapture. The Bible says that "our citizenship is in Heaven". That should suffice. And that is why our "vile bodies" will be changed into the likeness of His glorious body. Will Christ be in the New Jerusalem eternally? Search it out for yourself. And did He say "that where I am ye may be also"? Check it out for yourself.
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I think that we will live in our resurrected bodies in the new universe (Revelation 21:1) to which the new Jerusalem descends in the rest of the chapter.
 
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