The Blessed 1335th day of Daniel

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Rondonmon

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What does Daniel 12:12 mean when it says: "Blessed is he who waits and arrives at the 1,335 days." Who is "he" and why is he waiting?
I am going to explain this to you brother but be warned very few people understand this. The problem is they do not understand all of the numbers are given to us in the exact same manner. God doesn't change things in MID CHAPTER, remember that.

The KEY is verse 8 where Daniel asks the EXACT SAME QUESTION of Jesus (Man in Linen) as the Angel did in verse 6.

Daniel 12: 6 And one(Angel Gabriel) said to the man clothed in linen(Jesus), which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?(KEY) 7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half;(1260 days) and when he(Anti-Christ) shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

So, Jesus just stated this in our modern English. From the time the Anti-Christ conquers (scatters the power) the holy people until ALL THESE THINGS (Daniel 11:36-45 are THOSE THINGS remember that) are finished there will be 1260 days. So, what stops the Anti-Christ after 1260 days of his rule on this earth? Well, we know Jesus shows up at the Second Coming and defeats the Anti-Christ and False Prophet and all of their armies at Armageddon. Thus Jesus will show up (Second Coming) to end all these wonders or things Daniel had been shown after 1260 days of Israel having been conquered by this Man/Beast/Little Horn. KEEP ALL THIS IN MIND BELOW.

Daniell 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? 9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

So, Daniel asks the EXACT SAME QUESTION, thus why do we think God suddenly changes the formula or symbology? Daniel wants to know HOW LONG UNTIL ALL THESE THINGS END? So, Jesus tells him again, but this time Jesus gives him two different "MARKERS" instead of the Anti-Christ conquering at the 1260, he tells him about an event that is 1290 days from the Second Coming which ends all these things, then Jesus tells him about another event which is a "BLESSING" that will happen 1335 days BEFORE ALL THESE WONDERS END (Second Coming). So, both the 1290 and 1335 happen BEFORE the 1260 EVENT WHERE THE Anti-Christ conquers Jerusalem. Because EACH EVENT is a set number of days until ALL THESE WONDERS END via Jesus Christs Second Coming.

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand(Hello). 11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

Only when one wraps his mind around these TIMELINES MEANINGS, can they then go forward figuring out the actual MEANING of what these events are. The 1290 thus happens 30 days before the 1260 and the 1335 happen 75 days before the 1260 and 45 days before the 1290. So, the 1335 is first, the 1290 is second and the 1260 is last. ALL that number of days until the Second Coming!!

Now, I know what the numbers mean. Can you figure them out, a HINT, the 1290 taking away of THE SACRIFICE and placing the AoD can't be the Anti-Christ because he doesn't come to power until 30 days later. So who is it? Well, who is his helpmate?

To find the 1290s TYPE look up the name Jason and his Brother Onias III and see what happened to them during Antiochus Epiphanies reign. By looking it up it just might SINK IN what kind of TYPE Jason was. Thus Antiochus was an Anti-Christ TYPE and thus Jason was a TYPE of who/what?

P.S. the DAILY SACRIFICE is not a Meat Sacrifice!! Jesus (Man in Linen) would not have spoken of that which is PROFANE at that time. The SACRIFICE that is forbidden is Jesus Worship, I SLOWLY GOT THIS and thought............................DUH........................, why did I assume it was a profane meat sacrifice, this 1290 person forbids Jesus Worship in the Temple after the Jews have reprinted, then he places an IMAGE (AoD) of the Beast in the Temple just like Rev. 13 says.............

Rev. 13:4 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Figured out who the 1290 is yet? LOL, I have pretty much already given it away.

Thus if the Jews REPENT BEFORE the 1260 (which is the Day of the Lord also) then Elijah has to show up before the 1260 right?

Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord: 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

So, the 1335 BLESSING is the Two-Witnesses who turn Israel back unto God !! What better blessing could there be?

The biggest mistake people make is they ASSUME things like the Anti-Christ is the one that commits the AoD even though he doesn't conquer Jerusalem until the 1260 event which is 30 days later.

Another understanding that suddenly falls into line with this revelation unto me by the holy spirit is this. God gives Israel 30 days to Flee Judea before the Anti-Christ Conquers them because the 1290 is the coming False Prophet who had a TYPE in Jason who was a Jewish High Priest who BRIBED Antiochus in order to be named the High Priest, having his brother, a Pious High Priest, Onias III killed, Jason's real name was Yeshua, Jason welcomed Antiochus into the temple to make a sacrifice unto Zeus via a pig on the altar, and he then tried to Hellenize the Jews, leading unto the Maccabean Revolt, so, Jason was he TYPE False Prophet, a rogue Jewish Hgh Priest. Thus in the END TIMES, a Jewish High Priest(False Prophet) will get angry when 3-5 million Jews Repent (see Zechariah 13:8-9) and suddenly start coming to the temple to worship Jesus Christ, thus he FORBIDS Jesus Worship in the temple (TAKES AWAY THE SACRIFICE) and places an IMAGE of the E.U. President in the Holy of Holies.

Also, as per the two timelines, if the Two-witnesses DIE (2nd Woe) before the Beast DIES (7th Vial) then they also have to SHOW UP BEFORE the Beast shows up in order to have a 1260 day ORDAINED OFFICES on this earth !!
 

Ahwatukee

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Blessings to all!

There is a seven year period divided into two 1260 day periods (3 1/2 years) that are established in Daniel 9:27, with the setting up of the abomination marking the middle of the seven and which is the fulfillment of that last seven years of the seventy sevens that were decreed upon Daniel's people Israel and their holy city, Jerusalem.

These 1260 days are two 3 1/2 year periods in 30 day monthly increments. These are also mentioned in Daniel and Revelation as 'a time, times and half a time and 42 months.

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"He will speak out against the Most High and oppress the saints of the Most High, intending to change the appointed times and laws; and the saints will be given into his hand for a time, and times, and half a time. (Compare Revelation 13:5-7 regarding the saints)

"They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” - Rev.11:3 (takes place during the first 3 1/2 years)

"The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days." - Rev.12:6

"The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach." - Rev.12:14

"The beast was given a mouth to speak arrogant and blasphemous words, and authority to act for 42 months. And the beast opened its mouth to speak blasphemies against God and to slander His name and His tabernacle—those who dwell in heaven. "Then the beast was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation." - Rev.13:5-7
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"And from the time the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation set up, there will be 1,290 days. Blessed is he who waits and reaches the end of the 1,335 days. - Dan.12:11-12

1290 days is of course 30 day past the 1260 days given and which again is 3 1/2 years. And the 1335 days is 45 days beyond that, for a total of 75 days beyond the 1260 days.

Regarding what takes place during those extra 30 and 45 days, scripture does not reveal. However, I believe that during those extra 75 days, that premillennial business will take place, such as the judgment of the Gentile nations for their treatment of Israel, the sheep and the goat judgement and other premillennial business, with the 1335 day being when those whom the kingdom was prepared for, enter in.

That said, the Lord will return to the earth to end the age at the end of the 1260 days, with premillennial business to follow for a total of 75 days later and then entry into the millennial kingdom.
To Rondonmon:

Well, it is easy to respond with "disagree" but what are you disagreeing with? Everything written above is self explanatory.

Are you disagreeing with the two 1260 days which make up the seven year period? Or are you disagreeing with the information regarding the 1290 and 1335 days?

| --------------------------------------- Seven Years ----------------------------------------|
|------------- 1260 Days---------Abomination set up-----------1260 Days-----------| Jesus returns to the earth. --> Premillennial business

At least list what you disagree with.
 

Rondonmon

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To Rondonmon:

Well, it is easy to respond with "disagree" but what are you disagreeing with? Everything written above is self explanatory.

Are you disagreeing with the two 1260 days which make up the seven year period? Or are you disagreeing with the information regarding the 1290 and 1335 days?

| --------------------------------------- Seven Years ----------------------------------------|
|------------- 1260 Days---------Abomination set up-----------1260 Days-----------| Jesus returns to the earth. --> Premillennial business

At least list what you disagree with.

1.) "He will speak out against the Most High and oppress the saints of the Most High, intending to change the appointed times and laws; and the saints will be given into his hand for a time, and times, and half a time. (Compare Revelation 13:5-7 regarding the saints)
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2.) "They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” - Rev.11:3 (takes place during the first 3 1/2 years)

"The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days." - Rev.12:6

"The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach." - Rev.12:14

"The beast was given a mouth to speak arrogant and blasphemous words, and authority to act for 42 months. And the beast opened its mouth to speak blasphemies against God and to slander His name and His tabernacle—those who dwell in heaven. "Then the beast was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation." - Rev.13:5-7
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3.) "And from the time the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation set up, there will be 1,290 days. Blessed is he who waits and reaches the end of the 1,335 days. - Dan.12:11-12

1290 days is of course 30 day past the 1260 days given and which again is 3 1/2 years. And the 1335 days is 45 days beyond that, for a total of 75 days beyond the 1260 days.

Regarding what takes place during those extra 30 and 45 days, scripture does not reveal. However, I believe that during those extra 75 days, that premillennial business will take place, such as the judgment of the Gentile nations for their treatment of Israel, the sheep and the goat judgement and other premillennial business, with the 1335 day being when those whom the kingdom was prepared for, enter in.

That said, the Lord will return to the earth to end the age at the end of the 1260 days, with premillennial business to follow for a total of 75 days later and then entry into the millennial kingdom.
Well, to start with (which may not seem that important, but it is) the AoD doesn't happen in the middle of the week, it happens at the 1290, which is 1290 days before the Second Coming, and thus 30 days before the Anti-Christ comes to power at the 1260 event.

We agree the 70th week will be ushered in shortly. But the Time, time and a half [time] is about the Anti-Christ conquering Israel, not the AoD, the False Prophet places the AoD just as Rev. 13:4 confirms unto us. The A.C. conquers at the 1260, he has no part of the AoD, he is not even in control of Jerusalem for another 30 days.

| ------------------------------- Seven Years ------------------------------|
|------------- 1260 Days-----2W--AOD--AC------1260 Days-----------|

I transferred the other post onto YOUR REPLY ABOVE and will number them and answer in accordance.

1.) Yes, the Anti-Christ is indeed going to speak blasphemies against God. The saints in Rev. 13 are the Jews who do not repent since all Jews in the Old Testament verbiage were spoken of as saints, but its also the Gentile Remnant of Rev. 12:17 who come unto Christ after the Rapture, but in this instance, since its following Daniels 1260 timeline, I think even though God knew that both the Jews who refused to repent and were called saints and the Remnant Gentile Church could be deemed saints, God gets John to divide the two camps SPECIFICALLY for a reason in Rev. 17. he thus calls them Saints AND Martyrs of Jesus. So, we can assume the 1/3 of the Jews (The Woman in Rev. 12) who are being protected in the Petra/Bozrah area aren't the Saints spoken about in Rev. 13, though he does have power over them in a way in that he has chased them into the Mountains, he can't get at them because God protects them. Thus these Saints in Rev. 13 are the 2/3 Jews who refused to repent and remained in Jerusalem/Israel. And the TIMES and LAWS are speaking to the Culture and Traditions, and that is already happening, Homosexual Marriage, Transgender EVERYTHING has rights, I guess I could call myself a hairbrush if I wanted to. Israel is worse than the rest of the world as per all of these things. This man is doing the exact same thing Satan tried to get Antiochus to do, Jason the False Prophet TYPE High Priest of that time welcomed Antiochus into the temple to sacrifice a pig unto Zeus, then he tried to force the Jews to Hellenize leading to the Maccabean Revolt. Thus of course they wanted to CHANGE times and laws or TRADITIONS and CULTURES at that time, Satan is trying to stick it in God's face, you had a Nation, now look at how vulgar they are according to your holy word. But it's the WHOLE WORLD. They have gone mad, they are full of Demonic spirits and do not know it. It's not just some man coming in trying to change Israel's "LAWS". That is simply not understanding what is going on. This in essence is Spiritual Warfare.

2.) Jerusalem will indeed be trampled underfoot for 42 months, BUT, if you slow down and think a moment, you would understand the Two-witnesses 42 months are not the same as the 42 Months in which the Anti-Christ tramples the city underfoot because hes STILL TRAMPLING after the Two-witnesses DIE at the 2nd Woe. That is why the Two-witnesses MUST show up BEFORE the Anti-Christ becomes the Beast at the 1260, thus the Two-witnesses are the 1335. It doesn't matter that you never knew it, neither did I for 30 years, all that matters is not rejecting God's truths. Just like the Pharisees couldn't see Jesus because of their TRADITIONS, we have way too many men alive today who can't hear what God is saying because they already know it all. I know that because the Holy Spirit answered my prayer via why there are so many different interpretations in these end times and He said "Ron, you guys already know it all" So, it was aimed at me too !! 5 years ago But I heard that small still voice of correction. So, the Two-witnesses TIMELINE does not parallel the Beasts timeline, one getting killed first ought to have told you that long go. God placed them both in ORDAINED OFFICES with 1260 day timelines so we could JUXTAPOSE them against each other in order to understand the TIMELINES. There is literally NO REASON for God to allow the Two-witnesses to DIE other than to confirm the TIMELINES are staggered, they DIE FIRST, thus they must SHOW UP FIRST before the A.C. becomes the Beast !! It's simple math.

3.) The 1290 IS NOT 30 days past the 1260 it is 30 days BEFORE the 1260 !! Each number is how long until ALL THESE WONDERS END at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. You and others try to make the numbers DIFFERENT, they aren't, Daniel in verse 8 asked the EXACT SAME QUESTION, unto Jesus as Gabrie did in verse 6, HOW LONG until all these Wonders (Dan. 11:36-45) END. So the 1290 and 1335 are TWO EVENTS that happen 1.) 1290 days before the Second Coming ends all these wonders and 2.) 1335 days before all these wonders are ended by the Second Coming. THE SECOND COMING is what ENDS ALL THESE THINGS !! Pulling my hair out, YIKES, when shown if people can't see they are not hearing the Spirit, just like the Pharisees. It's not that complex once explained, to be honest, men just have stiff necks. They see what they want to see. You are GUESSING what they may or may not mean, I am telling you what the Lord has revealed and showing it via the Scriptures and making it fitting EVERY NOTCH in the TIMELINES !!

As per that SCRIPTURE you put up there that says they will come to the end of the 1335 days.

The Bible says NO SUCH THING. Here is your scripture juxtaposed against the KJV.

"And from the time the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation set up, there will be 1,290 days. Blessed is he who waits and reaches the end(THIS was added by men) of the 1,335 days. - Dan.12:11-12

Dan. 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and COMETH TO the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

What if the 1335 is THE BEGINNING? It is !! The Two-witnesses show up 1335 days BEFORE ALL THESE WONDERS END at the Second Coming !!!!!!!!!!
 

Rondonmon

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The Blessed 1335th Day is one of the keys to understand end time events. If one does not understand this then you are wasting your time. So I started a post to discuss it. This Day most people never quote. What is this day to you?
I understand, it's WAY OVER your head.
 

Yahshua

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Daniel 12:7
7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished

Key Points:

1) "Time, Times, half" = timeframe to scatter the Jews

2) As of today, the Jews have already been scattered to the four corners of the world, called the diaspora

3) The Diaspora took much longer than 3.5 years, so this means "time, times, half" probably isn't 3.5 years but most likely 1,260 years.

4) The man lifting up his hands swearing to Almighty is the same exact scene as Revelation 10...


Revelation 10:5-7
5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,

6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.



5) So in Daniel's passage the man swears to a timeframe for scattering the Jews...and in Revelation's passage, the angel swears that time would be over and the "mystery of God" completed after the 6th trumpet. So these prophecies are linked. The blessed "1335th day" is most likely referring to the completed mystery.


Daniel 12:

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.


6) The man gives a different timeframe between two events:

- The daily offering (morning & evening lamb; Ex 29:38-42) is ended
- The abomination setup that makes "desolate"

Daniel would've known when the daily offering was ended since it was the year their captivity to Babylon began (606 BCE). There were no longer any priests at the temple to perform the daily offering.

| Daily offering ended ---------------------------------------------- Abomination Setup |
|-------------------------------------------1290 "days"------------------------------------------|

Is this a count of literal days or do we apply the "day for a year" principle from Ezekiel? Well let's test it out:

606 BCE + 1290 days (3.5 yrs) = 603/602 BCE....This year isn't significant because Daniel was 3 years into captivity.

606 BCE + 1290 years = 685CE...This year IS significant because it's the date of the construction of the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem.

The Dome of the Rock is an abominable structure built for the worship of the moon god, and this is in the Almighty's Holy Land.


| Daily offering ended (606 BCE) ---------------------------------------------- Dome of the Rock Setup (685/688 AD)|
|---------------------------------------------------------1290 years----------------------------------------------------------------|

Scripture even confirms that a structure would be built "between the seas" on the "holy mountain" (Mt. Moriah, the temple mount) just before the "time of trouble" began that would scatter the jews. The chapter and verse markings didn't previously exist in the original writings.


Daniel 11:45-12:1
11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.



| Dome of the Rock (685/688 CE)--------------------------"Time of trouble"------------------------------- |
|----------------------------------------|-------------------------------1260 years----------------------------------|


7) 685 CE + 1260 years = 1945/1948 CE...The year 1945 marks the introduction of atomic power and entry into the atomic age. Meanwhile, 1948 was the year Jews were officially allowed to return to the Holy Land, and slavery of any human being was outlawed at the United Nations.


Daniel 12:12
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.


8) The person/people who make it to the end of 1,335 years is said to be blessed, so we add this time to one of the years above...but which one?

606 BCE + 1335 years = 730 CE...This year isn't significant because the tribulation and persecution the Jews would suffer through recorded history were just starting.

685/688 CE + 1335 years = 2020/2023 CE... The year 2020 IS significant because it's the year the world stopped, and we've yet to reach 2023. The kingdoms of the world are becoming the kingdoms of our Lord and His Anointed.
 

Rondonmon

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Daniel 12:7
7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished

Key Points:

1) "Time, Times, half" = timeframe to scatter the Jews

2) As of today, the Jews have already been scattered to the four corners of the world, called the diaspora

3) The Diaspora took much longer than 3.5 years, so this means "time, times, half" probably isn't 3.5 years but most likely 1,260 years.

4) The man lifting up his hands swearing to Almighty is the same exact scene as Revelation 10...
With all these wrong assumptions there's no use in replying to the ret tbh.

1.) is of course correct because 1260 days is 1260 days.

2.) The Scattering has zero to do with the Diaspora, good grief. Dan. 11:36-45 are about the Anti-Christ. We see in Dan. 12:1-2 that Micheal STANDS UP, (see Rev. 12 END TIMES) and that the Israeli Saints are raised from the dead at this time, so it's END TIME !! Not 2000 years ago in 70 AD. This is basic stuff man. (LOL) So, the SCATTERING of the POWER is the End Time Anti-Christ defeating Israel and the whole Mediterranean Sea Region. You might want to REREAD Dan. 11:40-43, please tell me the last time Rome Conquered Egypt like that, it WAS NOT 2000 years ago. And to boot, it says SPECIFICALLY that he will not be allowed to conquer Moab. Ammon or Edom, and that just so happens to be where the Petra/Bozrah area is that the Jews flee unto as verse 41 states those names.

3.) The Anti-Christ will rule for 3.5 years. How long the Diaspora took means nothing via a prophecy that isn't about the Diaspora.

4.) Th man lifting his hands is Jesus Christ pre-incarnate.
 

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What does Daniel 12:12 mean when it says: "Blessed is he who waits and arrives at the 1,335 days." Who is "he" and why is he waiting?
There are three time periods mentioned in this chapter:

1. "a time, times, and an half" = 3.5 years
2. "a thousand two hundred and ninety days" = 3.58 years
3. "the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days" = 3.7 years

Therefore these periods are all related to each other, and show small increments to the second half of Daniel's 70th week (which pertains to the Great Tribulation). The 70th "week" is a period of seven years, with the first 3 1/2 years given over to the Antichrist and the last 3 1/2 years assigned to the Great Tribulation (triggered by the Abomination of Desolation).

Christ returns to earth at the end of the Great Tribulation and destroys the Beast and the False Prophet. So it would appear that Christ establishes His Kingdom about 2 1/2 months after the Great Tribulation. Thus the one who see this happen is truly blessed.

DANIEL 12: THE TIME OF THE END
7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.
 

Rondonmon

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There are three time periods mentioned in this chapter:

1. "a time, times, and an half" = 3.5 years
2. "a thousand two hundred and ninety days" = 3.58 years
3. "the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days" = 3.7 years

Therefore these periods are all related to each other, and show small increments to the second half of Daniel's 70th week (which pertains to the Great Tribulation). The 70th "week" is a period of seven years, with the first 3 1/2 years given over to the Antichrist and the last 3 1/2 years assigned to the Great Tribulation (triggered by the Abomination of Desolation).

Christ returns to earth at the end of the Great Tribulation and destroys the Beast and the False Prophet. So it would appear that Christ establishes His Kingdom about 2 1/2 months after the Great Tribulation. Thus the one who see this happen is truly blessed.
You were doing great until you stated the Anti-Christ is the first 3.5 years. I assure you mean he's the Beast at that time? Because he is indeed the E.U. President that enters into agreements with (THE MANY) Isreal, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Tunisia, Morrocco, Libya and Algeria as the European Neighborhood Policy already dose, but this Anti-Christ has to put HIS SPIN on this Agreement himself, thus he indeed does that when renews the already existing framework in place now, but he's not the Beast for the first 3.5 years over Israel, nor the whole Mediterranean Sea Region.

This man becomes the Beast at the 1260, that's what it means, the holy people's power is scattered, or in simple terms, Israel is conquered. God's Wrath falls and this man goes forth amidst that chaos. Both the DOTL and the Beasts rule cover the exact same 1260 days or 3.5 year period.

1, )The Two witnesses show up 3.7 Years BEFORE the Second Coming. (1335)

2.) The Jewish Hgh Priest False Prophet stops Jesus Worship and places the AoD (of the Beast) in the temple 3.58 years before the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. (1290)

3.) The Anti-Christ conquers Jerusalem/Israel, AND the whole Mediterranean Sea Region 3.5 years BEFORE Jesus' Second Coming(1260)
 

Yahshua

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I'm not sure what it is about eschatology that makes us believe that all end-time prophecies are fulfilled after us as if it's a show that waits until we're present and in attendance to start. Are we so self-centered to believe that all end-time events occur at the end of OUR time?

We're not running the show. It's not our show. It's the Almighty's story that He's written for His Son. It's about the ongoing progression of history; His story.

With all these wrong assumptions...
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Well, your 1st wrong assumption is that "end-times = after Rondonmon is born". The correct understanding is "end-times = after Messiah is born". He is the centerpiece, not Rondonmon or me. Every event that happens after Him is "end-times", no matter whether that event happens before us or after us. John wrote the following in the 1st century...


1 John 2:18
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.


^^The end-times began back in John's time - long before we were here - and we've been living (and dying) through the end-times ever since. The last 2000 years are all the last days. With this proper foundation, we must look to recorded history to understand which end-time events happened so far (while we weren't here) to know which events we're currently living through and to know which remain.

We see in Dan. 12:1-2 that Micheal STANDS UP, (see Rev. 12 END TIMES) and that the Israeli Saints are raised from the dead at this time, so it's END TIME !! Not 2000 years ago in 70 AD. This is basic stuff man.
Circular reasoning. This truly is basic stuff...but we let our doctrines (received from movies and books and sermons), as well as our assumed level of self-importance, get in the way of what's written on the pages of scripture.

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Again, everything that happens after the Messiah is "end-times". So everything after 28-33AD range = end-times.

Dan 11:45-12:1 shows that a tabernacle would be built on the holy mountain of God, between the seas, just before the time of trouble begins for the people.

The Dome of the Rock was built on the temple mount, between the Dead Sea and the Mediterranean Sea (because we're talking about Israel) in 685/688AD, after the Messiah was already here...and this happened before a history of atrocities began against the Jews that spread them across the known world...which ended around 1945/1948AD. 1,260 years exactly.

History is a witness.

You might want to REREAD Dan. 11:40-43, please tell me the last time Rome Conquered Egypt like that, it WAS NOT 2000 years ago.
If you're going to assume I've failed to properly read at least try not to admit that you haven't properly read all of my post. Not once did I say anything about 70AD. The last time Rome conquered those lands was as the Holy Roman Empire with the Papacy in control...which - again - is after the Messiah, so it is "end-times".

And to boot, it says SPECIFICALLY that he will not be allowed to conquer Moab. Ammon or Edom, and that just so happens to be where the Petra/Bozrah area is that the Jews flee unto as verse 41 states those names.
The Papacy warred with the Saracens (Muslims of Islam) and couldn't defeat them. The Papal army descended from Rome (in the North), and the Saracen army ascended from Mecca (in the South). king of the north vs. king of the south. The Dome of the Rock was built by the Saracens (Muslims) mirroring the surrounding architecture of the Byzantine (Roman) structures in Jerusalem that were built after expelling the Jews.

So the dome is doubly offensive. Abomination.

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To ignore the last 2000 years of human history that got us to this point is to assume that the Almighty has been sleeping all of this time. The point of sharing prophecy is to prove the Almighty is in control of everything.
 

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Well, your 1st wrong assumption is that "end-times = after Rondonmon is born". The correct understanding is "end-times = after Messiah is born". He is the centerpiece, not Rondonmon or me. Every event that happens after Him is "end-times", no matter whether that event happens before us or after us. John wrote the following in the 1st century...


1 John 2:18
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.


^^The end-times began back in John's time - long before we were here - and we've been living (and dying) through the end-times ever since. The last 2000 years are all the last days. With this proper foundation, we must look to recorded history to understand which end-time events happened so far (while we weren't here) to know which events we're currently living through and to know which remain.
This comes from you not understanding END TIMES. The Disciples did not know how long the Church Age would last tbh. But they knew that the next prophetic events would be the Anti-Christ coming and Jesus returning, so to them they were in the END TIMES as in Adam to Noah...............as in Noah to Jesus..........as in Jesus to the Anti-Christ whom Jesus again shows up to defeat. So, they can and were in the THIRD PHASE so to speak, thus they were in the Church Age which leads to the 70th week. BUT, even the 2000 year Church Age has an END TIME to it. You have 4 quarters in a football game, but a 3 point deficit with 15 minutes left is not an urgent situation, a 3 point deficit at the 2:00 minute warning is an urgent situation. Same quarter, but its the END TIME of the game sir. Likewise, we are in the END TIME, the very END TIME NOW, we may have been in the last phase 1800 years ago, and 1000 years ago and 500 years ago, but we were not in what I call the END TIMES, Jesus' second coming was t upon us like it is now, the Anti-Christ was not alive as he is now, and yes he is alive, I was shown that in a vision in 1986, so if you want to play semantics, be my guest, but we are in the very END TIMES NOW. You sound like one of those guy who thinks all the bible has all been fulfilled, thus you don't believe in the end times, what's it called, a preterist? I have no respect for that belif at all, I truly have to bite my tongue to keep from laughing in a preterist's face when they speak to me in person.

The END-TIME = after Israel is reborn as a nation, if you read prophecy you will know this happens i the LATTER TIMES, as does the Little Horns birth happen in the LATTER TIME.

So, you take a scripture, written by a mere human being who as writing a letter to someone, not even Thus Saith the Lord Doctrine mind you, and he was telling them they were in the last time. Well, its all relative, if yu would stop and think, you would know he was guessing, not eve Jesus knows when he will be sent and he told them his coming was imminent, they were sure they were in the last time, but by the time John wrote Revelation, my guess is he then understood dfferent. Now, they were in the ONE TIME PERIOD that leads o the Anti-Christ and Jesus' return, so they were in the 3rd phase of humanity so to speak. But I wouldn't call 2000 years before the Anti-Christ shows up END TIE myself.

Circular reasoning. This truly is basic stuff...but we let our doctrines (received from movies and books and sermons), as well as our assumed level of self-importance, get in the way of what's written on the pages of scripture.

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Again, everything that happens after the Messiah is "end-times". So everything after 28-33AD range = end-times.

Dan 11:45-12:1 shows that a tabernacle would be built on the holy mountain of God, between the seas, just before the time of trouble begins for the people.

The Dome of the Rock was built on the temple mount, between the Dead Sea and the Mediterranean Sea (because we're talking about Israel) in 685/688AD, after the Messiah was already here...and this happened before a history of atrocities began against the Jews that spread them across the known world...which ended around 1945/1948AD. 1,260 years exactly.

History is a witness.
Islam has ZERO to do with the End Times, the Anti-Christ is going to wipe out Islam. You are off n some rabbit hole some MEN led you down because God didn't. Sounds like some Joel Richarson misinformation. Or worse. I have seen your type before, this whole 1260 year is off the deep end stuff.

The Papacy warred with the Saracens (Muslims of Islam) and couldn't defeat them. The Papal army descended from Rome (in the North), and the Saracen army ascended from Mecca (in the South). king of the north vs. king of the south. The Dome of the Rock was built by the Saracens (Muslims) mirroring the surrounding architecture of the Byzantine (Roman) structures in Jerusalem that were built after expelling the Jews.

So the dome is doubly offensive. Abomination.

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To ignore the last 2000 years of human history that got us to this point is to assume that the Almighty has been sleeping all of this time. The point of sharing prophecy is to prove the Almighty is in control of everything.
You are way out there brother.
 
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I am going to explain this to you brother but be warned very few people understand this. The problem is they do not understand all of the numbers are given to us in the exact same manner. God doesn't change things in MID CHAPTER, remember that.

The KEY is verse 8 where Daniel asks the EXACT SAME QUESTION of Jesus (Man in Linen) as the Angel did in verse 6.

Daniel 12: 6 And one(Angel Gabriel) said to the man clothed in linen(Jesus), which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?(KEY) 7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half;(1260 days) and when he(Anti-Christ) shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

So, Jesus just stated this in our modern English. From the time the Anti-Christ conquers (scatters the power) the holy people until ALL THESE THINGS (Daniel 11:36-45 are THOSE THINGS remember that) are finished there will be 1260 days. So, what stops the Anti-Christ after 1260 days of his rule on this earth? Well, we know Jesus shows up at the Second Coming and defeats the Anti-Christ and False Prophet and all of their armies at Armageddon. Thus Jesus will show up (Second Coming) to end all these wonders or things Daniel had been shown after 1260 days of Israel having been conquered by this Man/Beast/Little Horn. KEEP ALL THIS IN MIND BELOW.

Daniell 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? 9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

So, Daniel asks the EXACT SAME QUESTION, thus why do we think God suddenly changes the formula or symbology? Daniel wants to know HOW LONG UNTIL ALL THESE THINGS END? So, Jesus tells him again, but this time Jesus gives him two different "MARKERS" instead of the Anti-Christ conquering at the 1260, he tells him about an event that is 1290 days from the Second Coming which ends all these things, then Jesus tells him about another event which is a "BLESSING" that will happen 1335 days BEFORE ALL THESE WONDERS END (Second Coming). So, both the 1290 and 1335 happen BEFORE the 1260 EVENT WHERE THE Anti-Christ conquers Jerusalem. Because EACH EVENT is a set number of days until ALL THESE WONDERS END via Jesus Christs Second Coming.

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand(Hello). 11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

Only when one wraps his mind around these TIMELINES MEANINGS, can they then go forward figuring out the actual MEANING of what these events are. The 1290 thus happens 30 days before the 1260 and the 1335 happen 75 days before the 1260 and 45 days before the 1290. So, the 1335 is first, the 1290 is second and the 1260 is last. ALL that number of days until the Second Coming!!

Now, I know what the numbers mean. Can you figure them out, a HINT, the 1290 taking away of THE SACRIFICE and placing the AoD can't be the Anti-Christ because he doesn't come to power until 30 days later. So who is it? Well, who is his helpmate?

To find the 1290s TYPE look up the name Jason and his Brother Onias III and see what happened to them during Antiochus Epiphanies reign. By looking it up it just might SINK IN what kind of TYPE Jason was. Thus Antiochus was an Anti-Christ TYPE and thus Jason was a TYPE of who/what?

P.S. the DAILY SACRIFICE is not a Meat Sacrifice!! Jesus (Man in Linen) would not have spoken of that which is PROFANE at that time. The SACRIFICE that is forbidden is Jesus Worship, I SLOWLY GOT THIS and thought............................DUH........................, why did I assume it was a profane meat sacrifice, this 1290 person forbids Jesus Worship in the Temple after the Jews have reprinted, then he places an IMAGE (AoD) of the Beast in the Temple just like Rev. 13 says.............

Rev. 13:4 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Figured out who the 1290 is yet? LOL, I have pretty much already given it away.

Thus if the Jews REPENT BEFORE the 1260 (which is the Day of the Lord also) then Elijah has to show up before the 1260 right?

Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord: 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

So, the 1335 BLESSING is the Two-Witnesses who turn Israel back unto God !! What better blessing could there be?

The biggest mistake people make is they ASSUME things like the Anti-Christ is the one that commits the AoD even though he doesn't conquer Jerusalem until the 1260 event which is 30 days later.

Another understanding that suddenly falls into line with this revelation unto me by the holy spirit is this. God gives Israel 30 days to Flee Judea before the Anti-Christ Conquers them because the 1290 is the coming False Prophet who had a TYPE in Jason who was a Jewish High Priest who BRIBED Antiochus in order to be named the High Priest, having his brother, a Pious High Priest, Onias III killed, Jason's real name was Yeshua, Jason welcomed Antiochus into the temple to make a sacrifice unto Zeus via a pig on the altar, and he then tried to Hellenize the Jews, leading unto the Maccabean Revolt, so, Jason was he TYPE False Prophet, a rogue Jewish Hgh Priest. Thus in the END TIMES, a Jewish High Priest(False Prophet) will get angry when 3-5 million Jews Repent (see Zechariah 13:8-9) and suddenly start coming to the temple to worship Jesus Christ, thus he FORBIDS Jesus Worship in the temple (TAKES AWAY THE SACRIFICE) and places an IMAGE of the E.U. President in the Holy of Holies.

Also, as per the two timelines, if the Two-witnesses DIE (2nd Woe) before the Beast DIES (7th Vial) then they also have to SHOW UP BEFORE the Beast shows up in order to have a 1260 day ORDAINED OFFICES on this earth !!
"and cometh"That is jezabell
 
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