you go first.........no, seriously, I insist.........post CONCLUSIVE PROOF GOD TOLD YOU THAT.........
The Commandments of Jesus Christ
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you go first.........no, seriously, I insist.........post CONCLUSIVE PROOF GOD TOLD YOU THAT.........
But that is not in agreement with the NT.
Salvation is the forgiveness of sin (Lk 1:77)
through faith in Jesus Christ (Eph 2:8-9),
which gives one a guiltless right standing (position of righteousness, justification) before God (Ro 3:24),
which saves one from God's wrath (Ro 5:9) on sin at the Final Judgment.
The true faith which saves then obeys Christ's commands (Mt 22:37-39; 1 Co 9:21; Gal 6:2),
which fulfill, encompass, accomplish all the Mosaic law (Mt 22:40; Ro 13:8, 9, 10);
however, Christ does not attach a curse for imperfect obedience to his law,
as was attached to the Mosaic law (Dt 27:26; Gal 3:10, 13).
The obedience in the power of the Holy Spiritwhich then results from true faith
is the Christian process of sanctification (holiness) which transforms into the image of Christ.
Saving faith = belief + obedience.
But it is the faith/belief alone that saves (Eph 2:8-9).
The obedience which results from true faith does not in itself save,
for salvation is a free gift of grace (Eph 2:8), not something earned by performance (Ro 4:4-5, 1-3).
But since true saving faith obeys, then where there is no obedience,
we know there is no true saving faith and, therefore, one has not actually been saved.
But it is the faith alone which saves.(Eph 2:8-9)
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1 Timothy, Chapter 4, 16: Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
1 Timothy, Chapter 4, 16: Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
Right here
1 Timothy, Chapter 4, 16:
Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine;
continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself,
and them that hear thee.
You mean this doctrine?
1 Timothy 4:10-11
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]These things command and teach.
Don't worry. I absolutely will take heed unto myself and continue in this doctrine.
If you believe you are going to get into the Kingdom of God
without obeying the commandments of Jesus Christ....
go for it.
Not only can you not walk your talk, but when you are put to the test
you will cut and run.
Do you accept my challendge? Yes or no?
K
Kerim
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But that is not in agreement with the NT.StephenLevi said:
Salvation is the forgiveness of sin (Lk 1:77)
through faith in Jesus Christ (Eph 2:8-9),
which gives one a guiltless right standing (position of righteousness, justification) before God (Ro 3:24),
which saves one from God's wrath (Ro 5:9) on one's guilt at the Final Judgment.
The true faith which saves then obeys Christ's commands (Mt 22:37-39; 1 Co 9:21; Gal 6:2),
which fulfill, encompass, accomplish all the Mosaic law (Mt 22:40; Ro 13:8, 9, 10);
however, Christ does not attach a curse for imperfect obedience to his law,
as was attached to the Mosaic law (Dt 27:26; Gal 3:10), and from which curse we
are freed under Christ's law (Gal 3:13).
Then the obedience in the power of the Holy Spirit which results from true faith in Christ Jesus
is the Christian process of sanctification (holiness) which transforms us into the image of Christ.
Saving faith = belief + obedience.
But it is the faith/belief alone that saves (Eph 2:8-9).
The obedience which results from true faith does not in itself save,
for salvation is a free gift of pure grace (Eph 2:8), not something earned by performance (Ro 4:4-5, 1-3; Eph 2:9).
However, since true saving faith obeys, then where there is no obedience,
we know there is no true saving faith and, therefore, one has not actually been saved.
But it is the faith alone which saves (Eph 2:8), performance does not save (Eph 2:9).
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I knew you would cut and run if challenged to walk your talk.
You can't even walk this here you have said to me.
This is you cutting and running, after being challenged, to walk your talk. Trying to shift the focus off of you walking your own talk.-------->
Perhaps I am wrong... But is this love or a game of challenge around here?
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This is you cutting and running, after being challenged, to walk your talk. Trying to shift the focus and blame on me-------->
If I had said one thing that was false on this thread.
The devil would have made sure that someone had already proved it.
The devil would have made sure that someone had already proved it.
You see,
I have said that none of you
will walk your talk.
I am here to prove it.
So far none of you
have walked
your talk
or has accepted my challenge.
If you accept my challenge, God will put you and I to the test
to see which one of us will walk our talk.
I know what will happen.
None of you will make it through the first day.
I have said that none of you
will walk your talk.
I am here to prove it.
So far none of you
have walked
your talk
or has accepted my challenge.
If you accept my challenge, God will put you and I to the test
to see which one of us will walk our talk.
I know what will happen.
None of you will make it through the first day.
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This is you cutting and running, after being challenged with the NT word of God.
And why would the devil be in the business of proving your error?
He would be in agreement with your falsehood.
It would not be the devil proving your error, it would be the people of God, as in the following:
But that is not in agreement with the NT.StephenLevi said:
Salvation is the forgiveness of sin (Lk 1:77)
through faith in Jesus Christ (Eph 2:8-9),
which gives one a guiltless right standing (position of righteousness, justification) before God (Ro 3:24),
which saves one from God's wrath (Ro 5:9) on one's guilt at the Final Judgment.
The true faith which saves then obeys Christ's commands (Mt 22:37-39; 1 Co 9:21; Gal 6:2),
which fulfill, encompass, accomplish all the Mosaic law (Mt 22:40; Ro 13:8, 9, 10);
however, Christ does not attach a curse for imperfect obedience to his law,
as was attached to the Mosaic law (Dt 27:26; Gal 3:10),
and from which curse we are freed under Christ's law (Gal 3:13).
Then the obedience in the power of the Holy Spirit which results from true faith in Christ Jesus
is the Christian process of sanctification (holiness) which transforms us into the image of Christ.
Saving faith = belief + obedience.
But it is the faith/belief alone that saves (Eph 2:8-9).
The obedience which results from true faith does not in itself save,
for salvation is a free gift of pure grace (Eph 2:8),
not something earned by performance (Ro 4:4-5, 1-3; Eph 2:9).
However, since true saving faith obeys, then where there is no obedience,
we know there is no true saving faith and, therefore, one has not actually been saved.
But it is the faith alone which saves (Eph 2:8), performance does not save (Eph 2:9).