The Coup

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ThereRoseaLamb

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So Pelosi has just admitted she got Joe out so they wouldn't lose. What's the GOP's next move. Or are they just going to lay down and let it happen? Cause she's so sure of herself she came out and admitted it. She's thumbing her nose. So what's going to be done?!
 

gb9

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So Pelosi has just admitted she got Joe out so they wouldn't lose. What's the GOP's next move. Or are they just going to lay down and let it happen? Cause she's so sure of herself she came out and admitted it. She's thumbing her nose. So what's going to be done?!
nothing. as usual. nothing.

this is why they doing it, and now do not even try to hide it. because they know that nothing will happen..
 

ZNP

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This election is all about putting those responsible for treason in jail and executing them.

Look at how illogical, unreasonable and absurd is the gaslighting. No one in their right mind thinks Harris is a better candidate than Biden and everyone knows Biden had no chance to win and appeared to have dementia. In reality I suspect that we have still not learned the full truth. My point is they are desperate and their desperation is not simply about an election, it is about being found guilty of treason.
 

gb9

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This election is all about putting those responsible for treason in jail and executing them.

Look at how illogical, unreasonable and absurd is the gaslighting. No one in their right mind thinks Harris is a better candidate than Biden and everyone knows Biden had no chance to win and appeared to have dementia. In reality I suspect that we have still not learned the full truth. My point is they are desperate and their desperation is not simply about an election, it is about being found guilty of treason.
but, they won't be. in this life, they get away with it. and that just emboldens them to keep doing it.

and, should trump get back in, maybe he will do something. but, i am not holding my breath..
 

Nehemiah6

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nothing. as usual. nothing. this is why they doing it, and now do not even try to hide it. because they know that nothing will happen..
Exactly. There is not a single criminal or traitor in government who has actually been held accountable for anything. This has been going on for too long. Yet the government was weaponized against Trump. The rule of law has disappeared from America. And the RINOs allowed this to happen without a murmur.
 

Nehemiah6

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This election is all about putting those responsible for treason in jail and executing them.
Only under ideal circumstances. But when the law enforcement agencies, the police, the Marines, the Special Forces, and the Secret Service have all been corrupted and compromised, nothing will happen.
 

ZNP

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Only under ideal circumstances. But when the law enforcement agencies, the police, the Marines, the Special Forces, and the Secret Service have all been corrupted and compromised, nothing will happen.
That is absurd. Jesus is Lord. God is the one to whom our heart is made manifest. He has made manifest the secrets of their heart so now in heavens court they can be convicted. My understanding is they have already been convicted, the sentence has already been passed and now it is simply a very, very short time before it is executed. Our goal as born again believers is to bring people to salvation. I am not here to condemn, I am here to preach the good news of Jesus paying the price for our sins so that we can repent and be freed from the slavery of sin.
 

Nehemiah6

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He has made manifest the secrets of their heart so now in heavens court they can be convicted.
I said nothing about heaven's court. I am talking about right here on earth.
 

ZNP

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I said nothing about heaven's court. I am talking about right here on earth.
yes, well I understand that the judgment is going to be executed right here on earth very soon.
 

tedincarolina

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So Pelosi has just admitted she got Joe out so they wouldn't lose. What's the GOP's next move. Or are they just going to lay down and let it happen? Cause she's so sure of herself she came out and admitted it. She's thumbing her nose. So what's going to be done?!

So @ThereRoseaLamb, you're upset, anxious,... what? That Mrs. Pelosi has said that she spoke with the President about his stepping down? I imagine that a lot of people were talking to him about it and, I think, for good reason. But I can't imagine why you would be upset, or whatever emotion you're trying to explain with your post, because the leader of the House of Representatives spoke to the President of the United States about stepping down. Is there some nefarious plot there that we can't see because she's telling us what she did in advising the president?

Ok

God bless you,
Ted
 

tedincarolina

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I think this is what the saying about making mountains out of mole hills might be alluding to.
 
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Exactly. There is not a single criminal or traitor in government who has actually been held accountable for anything. This has been going on for too long. Yet the government was weaponized against Trump. The rule of law has disappeared from America. And the RINOs allowed this to happen without a murmur.
When a politician does go to prison , DOJ makes sure it's someone like this, A decorated Vietnam combat veteran. Makes me wonder why? I'm sure a large majority of politicians take bribes in the form of gift, overpaid speaking engagements, insider trading, buying&selling stocks that are affected by upcoming bills to be voted on. But this congressman's imprisonment always weighed heavy on my mind.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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So @ThereRoseaLamb, you're upset, anxious,... what?
Bewildered !!

That Mrs. Pelosi has said that she spoke with the President about his stepping down?
That Pelsoi told a sitting elected president he HAD to step down because she felt he was going to lose. She doesn't get to make that choice! That's up to the people to elect who they want to see in office. She said she won't allow Trump in the WH. ALLOW? Who is running the country, who told Pelosi it was her??


I imagine that a lot of people were talking to him about it and, I think, for good reason.
What reason?! He said he was ready to do the job! He's been doing it for the past three yrs. His press secretary said he was fit as a fiddle. She in fact said that she couldn't keep up to him!



But I can't imagine why you would be upset, or whatever emotion you're trying to explain with your post, because the leader of the House of Representatives spoke to the President of the United States about stepping down. Is there some nefarious plot there that we can't see because she's telling us what she did in advising the president?
She didn't advise the president, he was told to step down. Harris says she hasn't spoken to him. No wonder. You don't get to just change the runner in the middle of the race! I frankly don't understand why Trump is doing it! Biden is the head of the ticket until he is elected again or looses. I would refuse to debate Harris and leave her to Vance. She is not top of the ticket, Biden is still president and she should be flat out ignored unless and until she is president, and Biden actually steps down. I don't understand how this is not a coup. Trump right now is running against two people. I have no idea why he is. I sure wouldn't let them pull a stunt like that. Either Biden is fit or he isn't. We were told he was, they swore up and down. He gets in or gets out. By law I don't see how they are pulling this.
 

tedincarolina

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That Pelsoi told a sitting elected president he HAD to step down because she felt he was going to lose. She doesn't get to make that choice!
Hi @ThereRoseaLamb

No, of course she doesn't get to make that choice, but as a leader in the democratic party who has stood in one of the top positions of the legislative branch of our government, she has every right to make her understanding known to the president. As far as I know that's all she did. I wasn't actually privy to the conversation. Were you? You do realize that politicians talk to each other... right? I mean, that's literally what most of politicking is about. Talking to each other and working out issues and compromises in order to legislate the laws of our nation. Right?

Nancy Pelosi helped pressure Joe Biden to end his 2024 campaign (nbcnews.com)

Mrs. Pelosi has been serving our country for many, many years as the top democrat in the House. She has the right, due to her having great knowledge of the process and having worked with many, many democratic campaigns to tell the president her thoughts on the matter. I wouldn't be surprised if Pres. Biden didn't ask for her understanding of the outcome of the campaign. The above article says that she did warn him that the way things were going, especially after his debate performance, that his campaign could possibly not only effect his future, but the future of down ballot choices. Yes, the woman has every right to tell the president how she sees things. But ultimately, the decision was his and I believe it was the right decision.

I have, even before the bad debate performance, held that Pres. Biden wasn't going to be the standing choice when it came to the November election. But dropping out of such a race isn't something that one does lightly. Like getting the job of president is the same as getting a job of toilet cleaner at McDonalds. There's a lot of money at stake and a lot of effort by a lot of people that has to be considered and will weigh on such a decision.

I believe he did the right thing. Whether it was because of Mrs. Pelosi's encouragement or not, I believe he made the right choice in the matter. I honestly don't understand why it's such a big issue to you that Mrs. Pelosi seems to have been working to get the president to step out of the race. Why does that matter to you? Is this a part of your government control conspiracy theories. Is the cry of the republicans now going to be, if they lose, well we would have won if Mrs. Pelosi hadn't 'forced' Pres. Biden to quit the race. Is that what this is all about. You really need somebody to be mad at!!

God bless and vote wisely,
Ted
 

tedincarolina

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Hi again @ThereRoseaLamb

I am really curious as to 'why' you have this issue with Mrs. Pelosi. From what I recall of the time, there were a lot of people telling the president that he wasn't likely to win the election. Especially after the debate. Why is Mrs. Pelosi stuck in your craw? I mean, democratic world was in real turmoil after the debate. I think thousands upon thousands of people thought that the president shouldn't continue his campaign. Why are you so stuck on Mrs. Pelosi's words on the subject?

God bless,
Ted
 

Smoke

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So @ThereRoseaLamb, you're upset, anxious,... what? That Mrs. Pelosi has said that she spoke with the President about his stepping down? I imagine that a lot of people were talking to him about it and, I think, for good reason. But I can't imagine why you would be upset, or whatever emotion you're trying to explain with your post, because the leader of the House of Representatives spoke to the President of the United States about stepping down. Is there some nefarious plot there that we can't see because she's telling us what she did in advising the president?

Ok

God bless you,
Ted
Actually, yes... Kamala didn't win a single electoral vote in 2020 when she ran for president. There were many Democrats who demanded a primary because of Biden's current condition but it was ignored as it was assured he had the mental wherewithal to run for re-election. They wait until after Biden shows the world he is mentally incompetent to strongarm him into not running for re-election, thereby installing Kamala as the Democrat nominee without a single person voting for her. The Democrat party also refuses to do a virtual primary. This is pretty nefarious by any definition.

For as much attention as BLM has received, it's not a coincidence that the media is silencing their stance on this as well. Crazy world we live in.
 

tedincarolina

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Hi @Smoke

And exactly what does VP Harris's credentials have to do with Mrs. Pelosi giving Pres. Biden advice to step down? Yes, there were likely many democrats who demanded a primary, as there always generally are in these campaigns where there is an incumbent. Here's a news flash for you. Just like not every republican not being behind the GOP contender, not ever democrat is behind the democratic contender in any race, at any time, at any place in the nation. There are always some, remember, it's a nation of 330 million people, that aren't on board with all that a political party does, but they choose to register with one party or another. That is, however, one of the reasons why the independant voter rolls are growing so much. They aren't tied to any political initiative or overall vision or agenda of a party. They choose to think 'independently' who they believe is the best choice out of all those whose hats are in the ring.

BTW the DNC hasn't started yet, so if there's a democrat who feels they can get the votes, that option is still open. But it would seem that at this point in time, the reality of the situation is that VP Harris has enough votes to win the democratic ticket. That seems to be a fact. For the record, the GOP contender ran for president in 2000. How many electoral votes did he get that year? If that's your measuring stick for whether or not someone should get to run in future elections, maybe you should be looking for a new leader, too.

God bless,
Ted
 

tedincarolina

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Hi again @Smoke

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that VP Harris was running in the general election in 2020. According to the records that I pulled up, she dropped out of the race on 12/3/2019. I don't think it's possible for someone that isn't running in the general election to get any electoral votes. But I'm probably wrong and will anxiously await your correction on the matter. Oh, and also to show me how many electoral votes the current GOP contender got in 2000.

God bless and vote wisely,
Ted
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Hi again @ThereRoseaLamb

I am really curious as to 'why' you have this issue with Mrs. Pelosi. From what I recall of the time, there were a lot of people telling the president that he wasn't likely to win the election. Especially after the debate. Why is Mrs. Pelosi stuck in your craw? I mean, democratic world was in real turmoil after the debate. I think thousands upon thousands of people thought that the president shouldn't continue his campaign. Why are you so stuck on Mrs. Pelosi's words on the subject?

God bless,
Ted

Pelosi has a position others don't have. She is the only one who has come out and said she told Biden he couldn't win and to step down. She isn't stuck in my craw at all, I think the VP is even worse of a person!! I thought the men were bad! It isn't up to Pelosi to tell an elected sitting president to step down. That is up to the people! Unless they are saying he is unfit. If that is the case then he is no longer the president. Site the 25th on him and be done with it. Otherwise he is still top of the ticket and that is who Trump should be debating. If I were in his spot that's what I would be doing. All three, a president and two VPs can't run. Essentially no one is running the country right now. I think it's extremely dangerous! The world is watching and they see this mess. It's a grand opportunity for our enemies. Sept 11 isn't far away.