I'm really not comfortable discussing my question to ISIT with someone else instead of him.
Who believes that?
The curse of the law is not presented in two ways in the NT,
I understand. . .it was not your issue in the first place.
Well done. . .are you leaving the possibility they could have made another decision in the circumstances?
My failure to answer reveals my answer????? LOL No, it's just means I don't answer questions from persons who are not sincere in the inquiry of them. Such persons who are well known for misrepresenting others words and twisting them in order to build straw man arguments and then bring false accusations. Hmmmm where have we seen that before?
But I see even without any answer from me, you still brought the false accusations anyway. For shame.
Here is InSpiritInTruth's post, I separated his points ...
Many believe the law itself is “the curse”
but scripture tells us Gods law is holy, just, and good in
Romans 7:12 “Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.”
So what was the curse?
The curse of the law came in by 2 ways, the first is shown here in
Deuteronomy 27:26“Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them.
And all the people shall say, Amen.”
The first part of this curse has to do with sin
as it is written in
Romans 7:10-11[SUP]“ [/SUP]And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.”
Again we see the law was ordained unto life,
but the curse came when man could not keep the law because of the weakness of his flesh and sin.
So who’s the bad guy here, the law, or sin?
If you answered sin then you would be correct.
Now for the second part of the curse, which is swearing to the oath.
It is written
Galatians 3:10 “For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written,
Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.”
After Moses had read the law, all the blessings and the curses, the people then bound themselves to the oath by agreeing to keep everything that was written in the law.
The word oath in Hebrew can also be defined and shown as the word curse in scripture.
And swearing to an oath can also be shown as binding ones soul to a curse as in
Nehemiah 10:29 “They clave to their brethren, their nobles, and entered into a curse, and into an oath, to walk in God's law, which was given by Moses the servant of God, and to observe and do all the commandments of the Lord our Lord, and his judgments and his statutes;”
And in
Daniel 9:11 “Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.”
And here is where the curse came in by swearing themselves to the oath in
Numbers 30:2 “If a man vow a vow unto the Lord, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.”
And so being unable to perform the vow to God to keep the whole law, because of the weakness of the flesh and of sin, then the curses mentioned in the law were put into effect.
Which is why Jesus said
Matthew 5:33-37 “Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: [SUP]34 [/SUP]But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:[SUP]35[/SUP]Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.[SUP]36 [/SUP]Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.[SUP]37 [/SUP]But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.”
And here again also in
James 5:12 “But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.”
(and lastly a couple of lines of his own advice)
And a word to the wise, if you ever have to go to court and are asked to forswear yourself to an oath, or any other vow or oath for that matter…don’t do it! Peace.
Its an excellent post
The fact remains that to say:Yes, I am well aware of her tactics, but it's hard to build a straw man without any straw.
Kinda' like agreeing with Scripure's own words "There is no God" (Ps 14:1, 53:1)
I know. . .shows how seemingly innocuous and unBiblical notions of man can have grave Biblical ramifications, which is why we should not traffic in them.
Agreed. . .the ramifications of such an unbiblical notion as Israel should have refused the Sinaitic Covenant are not debatable.
There is no debate LOL!
God's Torah is anything but divers and strange doctrines. If that were the case, why should anyone believe in the one that confirms the Grace of Almighty God who gave it? Oxymoron for sure.
