The dreaded doctrine of election and perseverance.
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Jeremiah 1 1
"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations
I am not able to memorize scripture due to my brain damage but I do often speak of scripture. For me this verse has always stuck in my heart because as I grew closer and closer more and more intimate with father I couldn't help but feel something familiar about him like a really old dream or memory that you faintly remember
Not before you were in the womb, but before you were formed. Psalm 139 says, your eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect.
For the record I have to use google every time I need to search up scripture I have eye damage so I have fonts that make me able to read and I am unable to memorize scripture as well
Wait a minute, Lucifer IS NOT a Son of God! That's snake eyes! However I think free will may have something to do with it. If God wanted pure strict involuntary obedience he could easily made clones or robots. That wouldn't be love so He made us instead We can Love as flawed as we are in spite of what happened in the garden with Adam ad Eve's freewill they and we can repent and regret our sins.
I know the Calvinists are going to try and figure a way around what I just wrote, deny free will deny the right to chose or decide anything for ourselves but the truth is the truth. We are not robots we are flawed human beings. God loves anyways in spite of our flaws. as Paul said, "where sin abounds, Grace also abounds" "My Grace is sufficient for you." Because God is Love.
Yes exactly I remember telling father how I wish I could just be his puppet and this is when he spoke to my heart that he treasures a willing child nopt a controlled one.
Job 1 (ESV)
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them.
Yes he was speaking to Jeremiah but I believe he formed all of us in the womb
That dosn't make him Gods Son. if your father sent his sons and I came along. That would not make me his son, or your brother either.
When I don't feel like witnessing to a Jehovahs witness or a Mormon. I just say Jesus is Lord, have a nice day. And slam the door.
I guess you have a point. But if he was not God's creation, and one of God's fallen angels, where did Lucifer come from? Are the angels the sons of God?
Isaiah 14 (KJV)
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
"No one can say, Jesus is Lord except by the holy Spirit." It's a sunday school memory verse.
Are the angels the sons of God? Was Lucifer, the fallen angel, a son of God, before his fall?
Genesis 6 (ESV)
1 When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose.
I can't prove with it scripture this is just something I believe because of my personal intimate moments with him of course from I have seen scripture doesn't seem to do much good in debates like this. This isn't to say we shouldn't use scripture or base out beliefs and standing with scripture but I only know what the spirit speaks to my heart in this matter I am not trying to prove it nor should anyone believe it themselves if they disagree
I just can't help but feel something familiar about him