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“about water baptism “
“There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.”
Ephesians 4:4-6 KJV
“Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.”
Acts 8:35-39
there’s actually just the one baptism like Paul is saying there , It involves water and spirit like when Jesus got baptized
“Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, ( water ) and praying, the heaven was opened, and the Holy Ghost ( spirit ) descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.”
Luke 3:21-22 KJV
“Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.”
John 3:5 KJV
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, ( water ) and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. ( spirit )
For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.”
Acts 2:38-39
baptism for remission of sins in Jesus name is the one baptism
“There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.”
Ephesians 4:4-6 KJV
“Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.”
Acts 8:35-39
there’s actually just the one baptism like Paul is saying there , It involves water and spirit like when Jesus got baptized
“Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, ( water ) and praying, the heaven was opened, and the Holy Ghost ( spirit ) descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.”
Luke 3:21-22 KJV
“Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.”
John 3:5 KJV
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, ( water ) and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. ( spirit )
For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.”
Acts 2:38-39
baptism for remission of sins in Jesus name is the one baptism
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Speaking of unbelief, how would it apply to what is revealed in Acts 2:38 concerning water and Spirit. According to that verse, and as witnessed elsewhere in the word, baptism in the name of Jesus remits sin. And receiving the Holy Spirit is essential as well. These things can only become a reality because Jesus' sacrifice made it possible. Jesus said unless a man is born of water and of Spirit he cannot enter Heaven.
Consider what Jesus said in John 12:48:
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
Consider what Jesus said in John 12:48:
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
Jesus comment in John 3:6 does not negate that the Spiritual rebirth involves both water and Spirit. But rather just as there is a natural there is a Spiritual birth.
And in fact both birth processes involve water and Spirit. Consider that man is without excuse since spiritual/invisible things of God can be known by how God created things in the natural. By God's design a baby is birthed from the waters of its mother's womb and draws the breath of life into its body. The same is true of the spiritual birth process.
And in fact both birth processes involve water and Spirit. Consider that man is without excuse since spiritual/invisible things of God can be known by how God created things in the natural. By God's design a baby is birthed from the waters of its mother's womb and draws the breath of life into its body. The same is true of the spiritual birth process.
One means singular yes.
“There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.”
Ephesians 4:4-6 KJV
Do you know what connects all those things ?
“There one body, ( of Christ ) and one Spirit, ( of Christ ) even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
one Lord,( Jesus Christ )
one faith, ( the faith of Jesus Christ )
one baptism,” ( in the name of Jesus Christ )
brother we are Christian’s . Part of our belief is that Jesus Christ is the full manifestation of God in the flesh.
Are there other names that lead to salvation ?
“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
Acts 4:12 KJV
There’s just one of everything in the nt brother one lord Jesus , one Hope of eternal life in Jesus , one baptism in Jesus name .
why only Jesus ?
because only jesus ….
“And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.”
Matthew 1:21 KJV
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”
1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Why his name only ?
“And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.”
Colossians 3:17
“He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”
John 1:10, 12-13 KJV
why does it matter
“These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.”
1 John 5:13
“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
1 John 5:20 KJV
his Son ( his title )
Jesus ( his name )
Christ. (Another title )
our Gods name isn’t “ the father the son and the Holy Ghost “
his name is singular and one
This isn’t telling us “the name “ but instructing then to baptize “ in the name of “ and giving three titles
“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of
the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
Matthew 28:19 KJV
This tells us the actual name they baptized into singular
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:38 KJV
the name of Jesus Christ
the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
these aren’t four different names we can be baptized into the only name shown there in those verses is Jesus because in him
“For in him ( Jesus ) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
Colossians 2:9 KJV
It’s the only name we’re ever given in tbe nt for God.is my opinion . But I stated before Godnisnt about technicalities and disqualifying anyone . The correct doctrine and name is Jesus I don’t tho my gays really in question
however it’s not my position that God is going to hold what a pastor didn’t understand who baptized someone against the person who was baptized because they believed in Jesus
I’m just discussing what’s correct . The holt ghost isnt a name it’s a title for the spirit of Jesus Christ we receive when we believe the gospel like this
“Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: but in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all
……..And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.”
Acts 10:34-36, 42-44 KJV
that last part could read “ the spirit of Jesus Christ” fell upon all who hears the word or the “spirit of God “ fell upon them “ but notice peters forst command is for them to get baptized in the name of the lord Jesus
“Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
Acts 10:47-48 KJV
My point is simple If i say name of Gods son ,, name of the father and the son and the Holy Ghost , name of the lord ,…..the name is always Jesus he’s the savior who died for our sins that’s why we get baptized in his name for remission of sins when we believe the gospel ……
The name Jesus is really really really important in the doctrine of the nt. I’m not sure I canmake any more of an argument
i would just ask someone what’s another name of Jesus name isn’t the only one ?
“The son” isn’t a name but we have surely established the sons name is Jesus. so what’s the other actual names bedsides Jesus , who died for our sins , we can be baptized into for remission of our sins ?
If we can’t come up with another name that tends to lean towards Jesus being the only name
just an old fools thoughts though nothing official or anything g others need to agree with just discussing and offering my thought and what I’ve learned over time and prayer and study I can’t think of another name
“There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.”
Ephesians 4:4-6 KJV
Do you know what connects all those things ?
“There one body, ( of Christ ) and one Spirit, ( of Christ ) even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
one Lord,( Jesus Christ )
one faith, ( the faith of Jesus Christ )
one baptism,” ( in the name of Jesus Christ )
brother we are Christian’s . Part of our belief is that Jesus Christ is the full manifestation of God in the flesh.
Are there other names that lead to salvation ?
“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
Acts 4:12 KJV
There’s just one of everything in the nt brother one lord Jesus , one Hope of eternal life in Jesus , one baptism in Jesus name .
why only Jesus ?
because only jesus ….
“And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.”
Matthew 1:21 KJV
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”
1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Why his name only ?
“And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.”
Colossians 3:17
“He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”
John 1:10, 12-13 KJV
why does it matter
“These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.”
1 John 5:13
“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
1 John 5:20 KJV
his Son ( his title )
Jesus ( his name )
Christ. (Another title )
our Gods name isn’t “ the father the son and the Holy Ghost “
his name is singular and one
This isn’t telling us “the name “ but instructing then to baptize “ in the name of “ and giving three titles
“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of
the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
Matthew 28:19 KJV
This tells us the actual name they baptized into singular
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:38 KJV
the name of Jesus Christ
the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
these aren’t four different names we can be baptized into the only name shown there in those verses is Jesus because in him
“For in him ( Jesus ) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
Colossians 2:9 KJV
It’s the only name we’re ever given in tbe nt for God.is my opinion . But I stated before Godnisnt about technicalities and disqualifying anyone . The correct doctrine and name is Jesus I don’t tho my gays really in question
however it’s not my position that God is going to hold what a pastor didn’t understand who baptized someone against the person who was baptized because they believed in Jesus
I’m just discussing what’s correct . The holt ghost isnt a name it’s a title for the spirit of Jesus Christ we receive when we believe the gospel like this
“Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: but in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all
……..And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.”
Acts 10:34-36, 42-44 KJV
that last part could read “ the spirit of Jesus Christ” fell upon all who hears the word or the “spirit of God “ fell upon them “ but notice peters forst command is for them to get baptized in the name of the lord Jesus
“Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
Acts 10:47-48 KJV
My point is simple If i say name of Gods son ,, name of the father and the son and the Holy Ghost , name of the lord ,…..the name is always Jesus he’s the savior who died for our sins that’s why we get baptized in his name for remission of sins when we believe the gospel ……
The name Jesus is really really really important in the doctrine of the nt. I’m not sure I canmake any more of an argument
i would just ask someone what’s another name of Jesus name isn’t the only one ?
“The son” isn’t a name but we have surely established the sons name is Jesus. so what’s the other actual names bedsides Jesus , who died for our sins , we can be baptized into for remission of our sins ?
If we can’t come up with another name that tends to lean towards Jesus being the only name
just an old fools thoughts though nothing official or anything g others need to agree with just discussing and offering my thought and what I’ve learned over time and prayer and study I can’t think of another name
One means singular yes.
“There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.”
Ephesians 4:4-6 KJV
Do you know what connects all those things ?
“There one body, ( of Christ ) and one Spirit, ( of Christ ) even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
one Lord,( Jesus Christ )
one faith, ( the faith of Jesus Christ )
one baptism,” ( in the name of Jesus Christ )
brother we are Christian’s . Part of our belief is that Jesus Christ is the full manifestation of God in the flesh.
Are there other names that lead to salvation ?
“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
Acts 4:12 KJV
There’s just one of everything in the nt brother one lord Jesus , one Hope of eternal life in Jesus , one baptism in Jesus name .
why only Jesus ?
because only jesus ….
“And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.”
Matthew 1:21 KJV
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”
1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Why his name only ?
“And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.”
Colossians 3:17
“He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”
John 1:10, 12-13 KJV
why does it matter
“These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.”
1 John 5:13
“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
1 John 5:20 KJV
his Son ( his title )
Jesus ( his name )
Christ. (Another title )
our Gods name isn’t “ the father the son and the Holy Ghost “
his name is singular and one
This isn’t telling us “the name “ but instructing then to baptize “ in the name of “ and giving three titles
“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of
the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
Matthew 28:19 KJV
This tells us the actual name they baptized into singular
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:38 KJV
the name of Jesus Christ
the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
these aren’t four different names we can be baptized into the only name shown there in those verses is Jesus because in him
“For in him ( Jesus ) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
Colossians 2:9 KJV
It’s the only name we’re ever given in tbe nt for God.is my opinion . But I stated before Godnisnt about technicalities and disqualifying anyone . The correct doctrine and name is Jesus I don’t tho my gays really in question
however it’s not my position that God is going to hold what a pastor didn’t understand who baptized someone against the person who was baptized because they believed in Jesus
I’m just discussing what’s correct . The holt ghost isnt a name it’s a title for the spirit of Jesus Christ we receive when we believe the gospel like this
“Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: but in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all
……..And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.”
Acts 10:34-36, 42-44 KJV
that last part could read “ the spirit of Jesus Christ” fell upon all who hears the word or the “spirit of God “ fell upon them “ but notice peters forst command is for them to get baptized in the name of the lord Jesus
“Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
Acts 10:47-48 KJV
My point is simple If i say name of Gods son ,, name of the father and the son and the Holy Ghost , name of the lord ,…..the name is always Jesus he’s the savior who died for our sins that’s why we get baptized in his name for remission of sins when we believe the gospel ……
The name Jesus is really really really important in the doctrine of the nt. I’m not sure I canmake any more of an argument
i would just ask someone what’s another name of Jesus name isn’t the only one ?
“The son” isn’t a name but we have surely established the sons name is Jesus. so what’s the other actual names bedsides Jesus , who died for our sins , we can be baptized into for remission of our sins ?
If we can’t come up with another name that tends to lean towards Jesus being the only name
just an old fools thoughts though nothing official or anything g others need to agree with just discussing and offering my thought and what I’ve learned over time and prayer and study I can’t think of another name
“There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.”
Ephesians 4:4-6 KJV
Do you know what connects all those things ?
“There one body, ( of Christ ) and one Spirit, ( of Christ ) even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
one Lord,( Jesus Christ )
one faith, ( the faith of Jesus Christ )
one baptism,” ( in the name of Jesus Christ )
brother we are Christian’s . Part of our belief is that Jesus Christ is the full manifestation of God in the flesh.
Are there other names that lead to salvation ?
“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
Acts 4:12 KJV
There’s just one of everything in the nt brother one lord Jesus , one Hope of eternal life in Jesus , one baptism in Jesus name .
why only Jesus ?
because only jesus ….
“And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.”
Matthew 1:21 KJV
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”
1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Why his name only ?
“And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.”
Colossians 3:17
“He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”
John 1:10, 12-13 KJV
why does it matter
“These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.”
1 John 5:13
“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
1 John 5:20 KJV
his Son ( his title )
Jesus ( his name )
Christ. (Another title )
our Gods name isn’t “ the father the son and the Holy Ghost “
his name is singular and one
This isn’t telling us “the name “ but instructing then to baptize “ in the name of “ and giving three titles
“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of
the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
Matthew 28:19 KJV
This tells us the actual name they baptized into singular
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:38 KJV
the name of Jesus Christ
the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
these aren’t four different names we can be baptized into the only name shown there in those verses is Jesus because in him
“For in him ( Jesus ) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
Colossians 2:9 KJV
It’s the only name we’re ever given in tbe nt for God.is my opinion . But I stated before Godnisnt about technicalities and disqualifying anyone . The correct doctrine and name is Jesus I don’t tho my gays really in question
however it’s not my position that God is going to hold what a pastor didn’t understand who baptized someone against the person who was baptized because they believed in Jesus
I’m just discussing what’s correct . The holt ghost isnt a name it’s a title for the spirit of Jesus Christ we receive when we believe the gospel like this
“Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: but in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all
……..And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.”
Acts 10:34-36, 42-44 KJV
that last part could read “ the spirit of Jesus Christ” fell upon all who hears the word or the “spirit of God “ fell upon them “ but notice peters forst command is for them to get baptized in the name of the lord Jesus
“Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
Acts 10:47-48 KJV
My point is simple If i say name of Gods son ,, name of the father and the son and the Holy Ghost , name of the lord ,…..the name is always Jesus he’s the savior who died for our sins that’s why we get baptized in his name for remission of sins when we believe the gospel ……
The name Jesus is really really really important in the doctrine of the nt. I’m not sure I canmake any more of an argument
i would just ask someone what’s another name of Jesus name isn’t the only one ?
“The son” isn’t a name but we have surely established the sons name is Jesus. so what’s the other actual names bedsides Jesus , who died for our sins , we can be baptized into for remission of our sins ?
If we can’t come up with another name that tends to lean towards Jesus being the only name
just an old fools thoughts though nothing official or anything g others need to agree with just discussing and offering my thought and what I’ve learned over time and prayer and study I can’t think of another name
Matthew 28:18-19
18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Is invalid and people are not not saved baptised this way?
If so then Jesus lied?
And don't give me the crap of titles stuff.
In Matthew these are HIS WORDS.
You obviously believe our sins are forgiven when we are baptised?
And if baptised per Jesus COMMAND in Matthew then they are going to hell and
Romans 10:8-13
8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. 13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Should be removed from the bible as it is a lie
Even though there are baptisms (plural) in scripture. There is only one baptism that saves and places us into the body of Christ and that is Spirit baptism, not water baptism.
Ephesians 4:5 - one Lord, one faith, one baptism.
1 Corinthians 12:13 - For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. *Also see John 4:10,14; 7:37-39 for the word drink(s) and see the connection with the Holy Spirit.
Ephesians 4:5 - one Lord, one faith, one baptism.
1 Corinthians 12:13 - For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. *Also see John 4:10,14; 7:37-39 for the word drink(s) and see the connection with the Holy Spirit.
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You are avoiding the fact that after God revealed to Peter that Jesus was Christ, Jesus told Peter to strengthen the brethern when Peter was converted. Therefore, conversion did not occur at the point Peter believed that Jesus was the Christ. The same is true of those at Pentecost as well as others represented in detailed conversion accounts.
18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,”
How many names are written their brother ?
“Is invalid and people are not not saved baptised this way?”
im no one’s judge I’m just pointing out something simple to see and acknolwedge Jesus will decide who’s saved and who isn’t. He’s the lord
“If so then Jesus lied?”
no rather alot of people don’t understand there’s one name there in those verses . Jesus didn’t lie alot of people misunderstsnd those verses is my position the only name there is Jesus then there’s three titles of the godhead. No one’s saying Jesus lied I’m saying some folks think “ the father the son and the Holy Ghost “ is a name and others understand the name is Jesus.
like Peter he was commanded by Jesus here
“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
Matthew 28:19 KJV
and who’s name did he baptize in ?
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,
and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:38 KJV
I’m pretty sure Jesus is this only name bro
“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
Acts 4:12 KJV
In my belief that name is Jesus ……but again everyone’s welcome to thier opinion. And only Jesus gets to decide who’s saved so lol that’s definately not my arguement I’m just talking about the correct doctrine there are names and there are titles
How many names are written their brother ?
“Is invalid and people are not not saved baptised this way?”
im no one’s judge I’m just pointing out something simple to see and acknolwedge Jesus will decide who’s saved and who isn’t. He’s the lord
“If so then Jesus lied?”
no rather alot of people don’t understand there’s one name there in those verses . Jesus didn’t lie alot of people misunderstsnd those verses is my position the only name there is Jesus then there’s three titles of the godhead. No one’s saying Jesus lied I’m saying some folks think “ the father the son and the Holy Ghost “ is a name and others understand the name is Jesus.
like Peter he was commanded by Jesus here
“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
Matthew 28:19 KJV
and who’s name did he baptize in ?
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,
and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:38 KJV
I’m pretty sure Jesus is this only name bro
“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
Acts 4:12 KJV
In my belief that name is Jesus ……but again everyone’s welcome to thier opinion. And only Jesus gets to decide who’s saved so lol that’s definately not my arguement I’m just talking about the correct doctrine there are names and there are titles
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Just answer the questions?
You do make judgements.
JESUS SAID HOW TO BAPTISE.
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER SON AND HOLY SPIRIT
WHICH PART OF NAME IN MATTHEW THAtT JESUS SAID DO YOU WISH TO IGNORE?
LIKE YOUR OTHER COHORTS.
Can you find any verse where Jesus said to baptize in HIS NAME ONLY in order to have your sins forgiven for salvation?
You do make judgements.
JESUS SAID HOW TO BAPTISE.
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER SON AND HOLY SPIRIT
WHICH PART OF NAME IN MATTHEW THAtT JESUS SAID DO YOU WISH TO IGNORE?
LIKE YOUR OTHER COHORTS.
Can you find any verse where Jesus said to baptize in HIS NAME ONLY in order to have your sins forgiven for salvation?
“Our sins were not forgiven when Jesus said it is finished?”
he died for the entire world sins, then sent the gospel out to them all and said ….
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-
why would I then create the argument. “ baptism is meaningless it has nothing to do with salvation ?
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.”
Acts 2:38-39 KJV
why would I then argue “ baptism in Jesus name has nothing to do with remission of sins ? “
Im a believer brother I try to learn what’s in the scripture and believe that stuff I don’t read it then reject and create alternatives . Show me some scripture of why baptism isn’t what is taught in scripture ?
show me how baptism has nothing to do with this
“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin. Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
Romans 6:3-4, 6-7, 11 KJV
Why would I then reject the doctrine of baptism in Jesus for remission of sins ?
Or tbis why reject it ?
“in whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;”
Colossians 2:11-13 KJV
Or why reject this ?
“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Galatians 3:27-29 KJV
why would I stumble myself by rejecting the basics of baptism in Jesus name for remission of sins ? Im trying to learn what’s taught in the Bible about things like baptism for repentance and remission of sins .
It would be counterproductive to start saying “ well baptism isn’t anything why do people need to get wet that’s silly has nothing to do with it I’m already saved “ because I want to know and understand what’s there I can’t really just argue and reason away everything it says
he died for the entire world sins, then sent the gospel out to them all and said ….
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-
why would I then create the argument. “ baptism is meaningless it has nothing to do with salvation ?
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.”
Acts 2:38-39 KJV
why would I then argue “ baptism in Jesus name has nothing to do with remission of sins ? “
Im a believer brother I try to learn what’s in the scripture and believe that stuff I don’t read it then reject and create alternatives . Show me some scripture of why baptism isn’t what is taught in scripture ?
show me how baptism has nothing to do with this
“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin. Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
Romans 6:3-4, 6-7, 11 KJV
Why would I then reject the doctrine of baptism in Jesus for remission of sins ?
Or tbis why reject it ?
“in whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;”
Colossians 2:11-13 KJV
Or why reject this ?
“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Galatians 3:27-29 KJV
why would I stumble myself by rejecting the basics of baptism in Jesus name for remission of sins ? Im trying to learn what’s taught in the Bible about things like baptism for repentance and remission of sins .
It would be counterproductive to start saying “ well baptism isn’t anything why do people need to get wet that’s silly has nothing to do with it I’m already saved “ because I want to know and understand what’s there I can’t really just argue and reason away everything it says
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@Ouch @Wansvic and other belive me and @Cameron143 @mailmandan @TrustandObey and many others are not saved because they were baptized based in the words of Jesus.
Do you agree with them?
Yes or no is sufficient
Do you agree with them?
Yes or no is sufficient
You’re operating from emotion and not really responding to anything anyones showing you in scripture.
it’s always good to hear from you sorry we don’t agree on this one , hopefully in the future we’ll find some agreement as we usually do . But it seems to be that you aren’t willing to hear what I’m saying and showing you or respond to any of it
it’s always good to hear from you sorry we don’t agree on this one , hopefully in the future we’ll find some agreement as we usually do . But it seems to be that you aren’t willing to hear what I’m saying and showing you or respond to any of it
Jesus revealed obedience is essential for salvation:
John 8:31-32
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, (Clearly they were already believers of Jesus) If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Jesus said:
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; (clearly they too were already believers of Jesus)
but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. Matt 7:22-25
Whereas,
...every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. Matt 7:26-27
Heb 5:8-9
Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
John 8:31-32
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, (Clearly they were already believers of Jesus) If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Jesus said:
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; (clearly they too were already believers of Jesus)
but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. Matt 7:22-25
Whereas,
...every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. Matt 7:26-27
Heb 5:8-9
Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
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