The Error is Baptism in Jesus name only for salvation
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A couple of things actually don't add up to me about Matthew 28:19.
1. How come the Gospels of Mark, John, and Luke that cover the same incident before the Ascension of Yeshua that describes the conversation we read in Matthew 28 is not listed in the other 3 Gospels?
2. How come we never see anyone being either [water or spirit] Baptized anywhere in the New Testament if that was the command of Yeshua?
Something just doesn't add up.
1. How come the Gospels of Mark, John, and Luke that cover the same incident before the Ascension of Yeshua that describes the conversation we read in Matthew 28 is not listed in the other 3 Gospels?
2. How come we never see anyone being either [water or spirit] Baptized anywhere in the New Testament if that was the command of Yeshua?
Something just doesn't add up.
In all detailed accounts believing in Jesus was the first step of faith. And without that belief eternal life would not be possible. However, after that additional steps of faith were required; repentance, submitting to water baptism in the name of Jesus for remission of sin and receiving the Holy Ghost. When Peter first presented this gospel message the biblical record makes it clear that only after obedience were the individuals added. (Acts 2:36-42)
I don't believe as you do that only certain people are destined for eternal life while others have no chance. Jesus said that those who hunger and thirst after righteousness shall be filled. Sadly, some make the wrong choice and never pursue Him.
I don't believe as you do that only certain people are destined for eternal life while others have no chance. Jesus said that those who hunger and thirst after righteousness shall be filled. Sadly, some make the wrong choice and never pursue Him.
The sum of God's word is truth. As such, if a verse seems to contradict another. The error is in a person's understanding because the word of God does not contradict itself.
Jesus said unless you repent you will perish. Luke 13:3
He said those who believe and are baptized shall be saved. Mark 16:15-16
Paul explained if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Rom. 8:9
Jesus said unless you repent you will perish. Luke 13:3
He said those who believe and are baptized shall be saved. Mark 16:15-16
Paul explained if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Rom. 8:9
As I noted previously, I do not agree with your belief that man has no choice in the matter.
And Paul specifically stated it was possible for him to be a castaway. "I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway." 1 Cor. 9:27
And Paul specifically stated it was possible for him to be a castaway. "I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway." 1 Cor. 9:27
No, it is the only step in faith. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Once you believe, you have faith. Hence, since we are saved by grace THROUGH FAITH, anyone possessing faith is saved.
Now I will grant you that faith will lead us to perform many things, but once someone possesses faith, they are saved.
Now I will grant you that faith will lead us to perform many things, but once someone possesses faith, they are saved.
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You can disagree, but you didn't create your physical life, and no one can create their own spiritual life. Being born from above tells you who births someone spiritually. And the whole purpose in Jesus relaying that the Spirit who births spiritually moves sovereignly is to further this truth.
And the verse in 1 Corinthians has nothing to do with getting saved. It doesn't apply to the current discussion.
And the verse in 1 Corinthians has nothing to do with getting saved. It doesn't apply to the current discussion.
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The NT did not begin until after Jesus' death, burial, resurrection and He was glorified and poured out the Holy Ghost at Pentecost.
All of the gospels give some details of Jesus final words regarding the Great Commission that would begin after He ascended back into Heaven:
Matt 28:18-20
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Mark 16:15-16
"Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."
In the Luke account Jesus prophesied that the gospel message would begin in Jerusalem and eventually go into all nations. That message would include his sacrifice and resurrection. And that repentance, and remission of sins was to be preached in His name. Clearly this is a reference to the message presented by Peter at Pentecost. (Acts 2:36-38):
Luke 24:46-49
"And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
And ye are witnesses of these things.
And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high."
The last thing in the Book of John concerning the gospel message was Jesus instruction to Peter. He was told to feed Jesus' lambs, and sheep as well as other sheep. Peter obeyed Jesus by presenting the gospel message to the Jews, (Acts 2:36-42) then assisting the Samaritans, who were half Jewish and half Gentile, to receive the Holy Ghost, (Acts 8:12-18) and presenting the gospel to the Gentiles as well. (Acts 10:43-48)
John 21:15-17
So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
All of the gospels give some details of Jesus final words regarding the Great Commission that would begin after He ascended back into Heaven:
Matt 28:18-20
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Mark 16:15-16
"Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."
In the Luke account Jesus prophesied that the gospel message would begin in Jerusalem and eventually go into all nations. That message would include his sacrifice and resurrection. And that repentance, and remission of sins was to be preached in His name. Clearly this is a reference to the message presented by Peter at Pentecost. (Acts 2:36-38):
Luke 24:46-49
"And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
And ye are witnesses of these things.
And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high."
The last thing in the Book of John concerning the gospel message was Jesus instruction to Peter. He was told to feed Jesus' lambs, and sheep as well as other sheep. Peter obeyed Jesus by presenting the gospel message to the Jews, (Acts 2:36-42) then assisting the Samaritans, who were half Jewish and half Gentile, to receive the Holy Ghost, (Acts 8:12-18) and presenting the gospel to the Gentiles as well. (Acts 10:43-48)
John 21:15-17
So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.