The Eucharist

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Please do not blaspheme this belief

As a catholic I believe that in the celebration of the Eucharist, bread and wine become the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ through the power of the Holy Spirit and the instrumentality of the priest.

What other churches celebrate the eucharist?


While they were eating, Jesus took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, "Take and eat; this is my body." Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you, for this is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed on behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins." (Mt 26:26-28; cf. Mk 14:22-24, Lk 22:17-20, 1 Cor 11:23-25)
 
Rock022 said:
What other churches celebrate the eucharist?
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As far as I recall, I think Lutherans have kind of a preference for ritualistic cannibalism. They don't do Transubstantiation though, they give it another name. I believe they call it Sacramental Union, and many non-Lutherans call it Consubstantiation.
 
jimmydiggs said:
As far as I recall, I think Lutherans have kind of a preference for ritualistic cannibalism. They don't do Transubstantiation though, they give it another name. I believe they call it Sacramental Union, and many non-Lutherans call it Consubstantiation.
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I appreciate the answer but please respect the most sacred sacrament and not call it cannibalism.
 
"This is my body....This is the cup of my blood..." In Greek and Latin, the word "this" is in the neuter gender. "Body", "bread", "cup", "wine", "blood" are all masculine or feminine nouns. Linguistically, Jesus does not look like He is talking about the bread and wine when He says they are His body and blood. How do you explain the discrepancy?

For the younger people who don't understand this, it's like in English you say, "A husband and wife were riding in their car and there was an accident. He died, she is in the hospital, and it was totaled." "He", "she" and "it" are the words that tell you what happened to each, and you know what word is "he", what word is "she", what word is "it". You could never mix them up. You would never call God an "It" either.
 
Rock022 said:
I appreciate the answer but please respect the most sacred sacrament and not call it cannibalism.
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From WEbster:

1
: the usually ritualistic eating of human flesh by a human being
2
: the eating of the flesh of an animal by another animal of the same kind

3
: an act of cannibalizing something

If you're not eating human flesh, then what is it?


Bear in mind, you said: "become the Body and Blood of Jesus "
 
Rock022 said:
Please do not blaspheme this belief

As a catholic I believe that in the celebration of the Eucharist, bread and wine become the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ through the power of the Holy Spirit and the instrumentality of the priest.

What other churches celebrate the eucharist?


While they were eating, Jesus took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, "Take and eat; this is my body." Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you, for this is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed on behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins." (Mt 26:26-28; cf. Mk 14:22-24, Lk 22:17-20, 1 Cor 11:23-25)
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As a new user, you should be made aware the sites official take on Catholicism is that it is not part of Christianity. There are some that agree with this, and some that don't, on this site. So you can expect resistance to Catholic beliefs on here.
 
Ugly said:
As a new user, you should be made aware the sites official take on Catholicism is that it is not part of Christianity. There are some that agree with this, and some that don't, on this site. So you can expect resistance to Catholic beliefs on here.
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I know this site considers Catholics a bunch of heretics. And what I have asked is also done in other christian churches but I do not know which ones, so I asked.
 
The Orthodox and the Eastern religions have identical belief, I believe (Geometar would know for sure). The Episcopals come close, but I have been told that they believe the real presence leaves after the mass is over, and the elements revert back to bread and wine (this comes from Catholic priest who concelebrated with an Episcopalian). Every other denomination I have served believes it is a symbol. I know of none who believe with me that we ourselves are the Eucharist served to a waiting world, and the meal is the custom that affirms and increases the joint awareness and oneness we have in this regard.
 
Interesting, I believe presbyterians also do something similar.

The way you view it is interesting because the whole purpose of God is to give. The Eucharist gives us Jesus, and you see your self as giving your self to Jesus.
 
Most on here are "Solo Scripture" as Luther said.
Relying on the Word of God, not the "Traditions of men" As
Jesus said in the Gospel of Mark.

.7-13. "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Verse 8, "For laying aside the commandments of God, ye hold the tradition of men." Verse 9, "Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition." Verse 13, "Making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition..."

 
Rock022 said:
Please do not blaspheme this belief

As a catholic I believe that in the celebration of the Eucharist, bread and wine become the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ through the power of the Holy Spirit and the instrumentality of the priest.

What other churches celebrate the eucharist?


While they were eating, Jesus took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, "Take and eat; this is my body." Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you, for this is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed on behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins." (Mt 26:26-28; cf. Mk 14:22-24, Lk 22:17-20, 1 Cor 11:23-25)
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I do believe the ones that would celebrate the 'eucharist' as how the catholics do may only the the Orthodox and possibly the anglican? Maybe the Episcopalians..and maybe not even..I believe i have heard a local catholic see his way of communion aka the eucharist as superior. (I am only going by what he and other catholics i have met say,have heard them say) I do also remember those thinking they were superior to other christians(then again some protestants are guilty of this too..) Just going by my experiences..
I do think that communion aka the Table of the Lord is a serious thing..and i can at least respect the seriousness of the Catholic in not seeing this as just another formality, having attended and served in churches where the youth were allowed to serve communion as they were talking to each other..and those in leadership not really thinking communion was important..or even one time going to one church where they took communion twice in the service(of which i refused to partake in a second time, this is not a game we are playing here)

So all different expressions and ways people do it..some do with real wine..some with bread,matza,crackers,wafers,unleavened bread..etc.

What matters most is that we do this in remembrance of him and do not take it in an unworthy manner as it says to do in 1 corinthians 11.
 
jimmydiggs said:
If truth insults, then so be it.

Why are you ashamed to call it cannibalism? That's what it is by your own words.
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I am really about ready to deliver you to Satan..your spirit is rude..carnal..you show your pride and you know not of what spirit you act. I will be reporting your rudeness to the mods..you have been warned..this is not the first time i point out your rude disrespectfull responses to others here.
 
Ugly said:
As a new user, you should be made aware the sites official take on Catholicism is that it is not part of Christianity. There are some that agree with this, and some that don't, on this site. So you can expect resistance to Catholic beliefs on here.
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If you mean that the moderators here turn the other way and simply ignore the bashing and hatefull retoric/vitriol against catholics,whom many of their ideas(points to Augustine and Erasmus) are the bedrock of most 'reformed' and protestant faiths..it is merely arrogant and hypocritical..it saddens me that the mods would allow this. Its far from christian..its rather unchristian if you ask me.
 
rauleetoe said:
I do believe the ones that would celebrate the 'eucharist' as how the catholics do may only the the Orthodox and possibly the anglican? Maybe the Episcopalians..and maybe not even..
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The anglican/episcopalian (and lutheran) view of communion differs both from the roman catholic, orthodox and presbyterian views.
 
You are free to believe that, but to me it seems illogical.
- Jesus did say this is my body, however, there are also many other things said in the bible. It is said that Jesus is the lamb of God, does this make him a literal lamb?
 
yes, of course (!) or we would all be doomed.
but I ask again, did he turn into a literal lamb? Or was it symbolic?
 
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