The Glorious Security of the Children of God

[NetChaplain]

The true children of God are, according to Scripture, eternally safe because:

1. They are born not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible seed (1Pe 1:23).
2. His sheep shall never perish (Jn 10:28).
3. Their lives are hid with Christ in God (Col 2:3).
4. They are chosen in Him before the foundation of the world (Eph 1:4).
5. They are already “seated” in the heavenlies in Christ (Eph 1:3; 2:6).
6. They are sealed by the Spirit “until the day of redemption” (Eph 4:30).
7. The Lord knoweth them that are His (2Tim 2:19).
8. Having begun a work in you, He will complete it (Phl 1:6).
9. They are already living-stones in the spiritual building of God of which Christ Himself is the Chief Cornerstone (1Pet 2:5; Eph 2:20-22).
10. They are members of the Body and Church of Christ, each with a peculiar function. Without the least member, the Body would not be complete (1Cor 12:12-27 – the time will come when the final and last Gentile is saved, then Israel restored to fellowship, but not in the sonship capacity like Christians being children of God; they will continue as a “people of God”—NC Rom 11:25, 26).
11. They “are kept by the power of God” (1Pe 1:5).
12. An inheritance is reserved for them (God knows every name in the Book of Life—NC - 1Pet 1:4).
13. God’s people are a gift to His Beloved Son (Jn 17:6, 7 – the Father covenanted with the Son that if He would die for those who would believe in Him, the Father would raise Him from the dead – “Covenant of Redemption”—NC).
14. “He is able to save them to the uttermost” (Heb 7:25).
15. They are already accepted in the Beloved Son (Eph 1:6).
16. Nothing can separate them from the love of Christ (Rom 8:38, 39).
17. He loves them “to the end” (Jn 13:1).
18. By one offering He hath perfected forever them that are “sanctified” (Heb 10:10-14 – sanctification is a single, one time work that separates the heart from the “old man” (Ro 8:9); it’s not what some might think, that it’s a continued work of separating the heart from the sin nature. This answers to why the word “sanctified” is always given in a text that expresses a complete one-time work—NC).
19. They are nevermore reckoned in the first man Adam, but have passed through in the Last Adam (1Co 15:45, 47).
20. They cannot be unborn (John 3:6-8).
21. Christ dwells in them (permanently 2Jn 1:2).
22. He gives His sheep eternal life (Jn 10:28).
23. Whom He foreknew, He also predestined, called, justified and glorified (Ro 8:28-30).
24. The gifts and calling of God are without repentance (irrevocable – Ro 11:29).

-MJS

 

[Aussie52]

The true children of God are, according to Scripture, eternally safe because:

1. They are born not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible seed (1Pe 1:23).
2. His sheep shall never perish (Jn 10:28).
3. Their lives are hid with Christ in God (Col 2:3).
4. They are chosen in Him before the foundation of the world (Eph 1:4).
5. They are already “seated” in the heavenlies in Christ (Eph 1:3; 2:6).
6. They are sealed by the Spirit “until the day of redemption” (Eph 4:30).
7. The Lord knoweth them that are His (2Tim 2:19).
8. Having begun a work in you, He will complete it (Phl 1:6).
9. They are already living-stones in the spiritual building of God of which Christ Himself is the Chief Cornerstone (1Pet 2:5; Eph 2:20-22).
10. They are members of the Body and Church of Christ, each with a peculiar function. Without the least member, the Body would not be complete (1Cor 12:12-27 – the time will come when the final and last Gentile is saved, then Israel restored to fellowship, but not in the sonship capacity like Christians being children of God; they will continue as a “people of God”—NC Rom 11:25, 26).
11. They “are kept by the power of God” (1Pe 1:5).
12. An inheritance is reserved for them (God knows every name in the Book of Life—NC - 1Pet 1:4).
13. God’s people are a gift to His Beloved Son (Jn 17:6, 7 – the Father covenanted with the Son that if He would die for those who would believe in Him, the Father would raise Him from the dead – “Covenant of Redemption”—NC).
14. “He is able to save them to the uttermost” (Heb 7:25).
15. They are already accepted in the Beloved Son (Eph 1:6).
16. Nothing can separate them from the love of Christ (Rom 8:38, 39).
17. He loves them “to the end” (Jn 13:1).
18. By one offering He hath perfected forever them that are “sanctified” (Heb 10:10-14 – sanctification is a single, one time work that separates the heart from the “old man” (Ro 8:9); it’s not what some might think, that it’s a continued work of separating the heart from the sin nature. This answers to why the word “sanctified” is always given in a text that expresses a complete one-time work—NC).
19. They are nevermore reckoned in the first man Adam, but have passed through in the Last Adam (1Co 15:45, 47).
20. They cannot be unborn (John 3:6-8).
21. Christ dwells in them (permanently 2Jn 1:2).
22. He gives His sheep eternal life (Jn 10:28).
23. Whom He foreknew, He also predestined, called, justified and glorified (Ro 8:28-30).
24. The gifts and calling of God are without repentance (irrevocable – Ro 11:29).

-MJS

All promises have conditions, you forgot to mention them!

 

[Lynx]

All promises have conditions, you forgot to mention them!

That's one thing he never talks about. Never ever ever.

He also never talks about Romans chapter 6.

 

[NetChaplain]

All promises have conditions, you forgot to mention them!

Hi and thanks for your reply! This is true, but God causes saints to meet the conditions (Phl 2:13)! If He didn't then nobody could meet the requirements, because they involve "all things that pertain unto life and godliness," all of which is given at rebirth as the believer continues more all the time to grow into (2Pe 1:3).

 

[NetChaplain]

That's one thing he never talks about. Never ever ever.

He also never talks about Romans chapter 6.

Hi Lynx and always thankful and welcome your replies because I know you want truth like the rest of everyone. In my opinion the crux of Romans 6 is "But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life" (vs 22).

To me, the freedom Christians have from sin is the absence of desire for sin! We nevermore want it; it (old man) is in us but we are no longer in it (Ro 9:8). Hence Paul's intention by "it is no more I that do it" (7:17, 20). It is no longer the new Paul that sins but still the old Paul. It's not the fact that we still sin, but that we do not want to sin, like a "captive" (7:23) being restrained against his will.

 

[Aussie52]

Hi Lynx and always thankful and welcome your replies because I know you want truth like the rest of everyone. In my opinion the crux of Romans 6 is "But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life" (vs 22).

To me, the freedom Christians have from sin is the absence of desire for sin! We nevermore want it; it (old man) is in us but we are no longer in it (Ro 9:8). Hence Paul's intention by "it is no more I that do it" (7:17, 20). It is no longer the new Paul that sins but still the old Paul. It's not the fact that we still sin, but that we do not want to sin, like a "captive" (7:23) being restrained against his will.

You appear to miss the point of Romans 6. The 'Old Man' is to be crucified and killed off, once and for all v6. The 'body of sin' destroyed, rendered inoperative. All this has to do with the sin principal within, that source of our sins dealt a blow of death, that we might be free, no longer servants of sin. This is real holiness of heart, that deeper work of sanctification that Paul prayed for the Thessalonians, 'Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you wholly, and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ' 5:23.

 

[NetChaplain]

You appear to miss the point of Romans 6. The 'Old Man' is to be crucified and killed off, once and for all v6. The 'body of sin' destroyed, rendered inoperative. All this has to do with the sin principal within, that source of our sins dealt a blow of death, that we might be free, no longer servants of sin. This is real holiness of heart, that deeper work of sanctification that Paul prayed for the Thessalonians, 'Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you wholly, and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ' 5:23.

The sin nature or "old man" is not destroyed, only what he attempts against Christians is restrained, like its still on the Cross or "is crucified" (Ro 6:6), or still being crucified. If this nature itself were destroyed believers wouldn't have to sin!

As it is said (J Gill) that the "old man" or sin nature is the power of the evil imagination"; this is crucified with Christ, and nailed to His Cross by His sacrifice and satisfaction, that its damning power might be destroyed, abolished, and done away: and it is crucified by the Spirit and grace of Christ, that its governing power might be took away, and that itself be subdued, weakened, and laid under restraints, and its members and deeds mortified."

Albert Barnes: "The figure is here carried out, and this old man, this corrupt nature, is represented as having been put to death in an agonizing and torturing manner. The pains of crucifixion were perhaps the most torturing of any that the human frame could bear. Death in this manner was most lingering and distressing. And the apostle here by the expression “is crucified” doubtless refers to the painful and protracted struggle which everyone goes through when his evil propensities are subdued; when his corrupt nature is slain; and when, a converted sinner, he gives himself up to God."

 

[Aussie52]

The sin nature or "old man" is not destroyed, only what he attempts against Christians is restrained, like its still on the Cross or "is crucified" (Ro 6:6), or still being crucified. If this nature itself were destroyed believers wouldn't have to sin!

As it is said (J Gill) that the "old man" or sin nature is the power of the evil imagination"; this is crucified with Christ, and nailed to His Cross by His sacrifice and satisfaction, that its damning power might be destroyed, abolished, and done away: and it is crucified by the Spirit and grace of Christ, that its governing power might be took away, and that itself be subdued, weakened, and laid under restraints, and its members and deeds mortified."

Albert Barnes: "The figure is here carried out, and this old man, this corrupt nature, is represented as having been put to death in an agonizing and torturing manner. The pains of crucifixion were perhaps the most torturing of any that the human frame could bear. Death in this manner was most lingering and distressing. And the apostle here by the expression “is crucified” doubtless refers to the painful and protracted struggle which everyone goes through when his evil propensities are subdued; when his corrupt nature is slain; and when, a converted sinner, he gives himself up to God."

I'll go with what the Word of God says, our Old Man is crucified (Dead) and the body of sin, destroyed.

 

[NetChaplain]

I'll go with what the Word of God says, our Old Man is crucified (Dead) and the body of sin, destroyed.

There's nowhere is says it's dead. But what it tries to do against us is destroyed!

 

[Aussie52]

There's nowhere is says it's dead. But what it tries to do against us is destroyed!

So, when Jesus was crucified, He wasn't dead?

 

[HeIsHere]

All promises have conditions, you forgot to mention them!

Salvation is a complete gift.

 

[Aussie52]

Salvation is a complete gift.

It is indeed, but it has conditions, repentance and faith!

 

[Magenta]

Your Promise

 

[HeIsHere]

It is indeed, but it has conditions, repentance and faith!

Repentance as in metanoia... agree.