The great ages reached by biblical characters

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JohnRH

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It is hard to understand the characters who lived several centuries. Unimaginably long lives. What on earth would any of us do with so much time? We also assume they were in good health all that time. If not, such long life would be a torture indeed.

Another point is it appears only men lived to such great ages. When they had children in advanced old age, I wonder how old the women were who bore those children?
Yes, it would be torture. Its a good thing God blocked access to the tree of life (Gen. 3:24)
 

SomeDisciple

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I suppose 1000 years doesn't seem very long if you're building civilization from scratch. It would take them significantly more time and effort to accomplish tasks that we barely give any thought to.
 

Webers.Home

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The days of Planned Parenthood, et al, are numbered. Apparently abortions
won't exist in the kingdom of God.

Isa 65:19-20 . . I will rejoice over Jerusalem . . . never again will there be
in it an infant who lives but a few days.

Those babies will come in handy seeing as how a very large percentage of
the world's population will be killed off during the Tribulation-- for example
Rev 16:17-18 predicts a global earthquake so powerful on the Richter scale
that cities all over the world will collapse at once.

Something like 2,829 lost their lives when the World Trade Center was
demolished by a terrorist attack in 2001. Well that was only a few acres of
New York City. Just imagine the body count when all of Manhattan comes
down at once. along with other major cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco,
Mexico City, Paris, Moscow, Beijing, Tokyo, et al. The carnage will be beyond
belief.

Plus: another ¼ of the population will be done away by war, disease, starvation,
and wild animals. (Rev 6:7-8)
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Omegatime

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Putting forth a Question:

What time of year does creation represent or when is the revolution of the year??
 

Omegatime

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Could you clarify your question?
Well, was creation in the harvest season, summer, or on a feast day? And whenever the time was the revolution of the year would be from say-October to October. Did the Lord give us any clues?
 

UnoiAmarah

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Well, was creation in the harvest season, summer, or on a feast day? And whenever the time was the revolution of the year would be from say-October to October. Did the Lord give us any clues?
Seeing that the position of the earth relative to the sun determines which season, and the harvest season in the northern hemisphere would be the time to plant in the southern hemisphere, then without knowing where Adam was in the garden on the day he was created then my best guess is that I don't know. So are you using the time fig trees produce fruit?
 

Omegatime

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Seeing that the position of the earth relative to the sun determines which season, and the harvest season in the northern hemisphere would be the time to plant in the southern hemisphere, then without knowing where Adam was in the garden on the day he was created then my best guess is that I don't know. So are you using the time fig trees produce fruit?
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Well at least I see that as observant concerning the fig tree-well done. Start producing in May to October.

Lord said it was good or very good during creation. Another way of understanding creation was it was just the way He planned it, and it was a time without sin.

So, what represents no sin for a week in the Bible???
 

UnoiAmarah

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Lord said it was good or very good during creation
If not mistaken every tree in the garden was good for food.

So, what represents no sin for a week in the Bible???
2,520° if you calculate a week by days. I don't know, what represents no sin for a week? So i guess you can pass over my answer.
 

Omegatime

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If not mistaken every tree in the garden was good for food.



2,520° if you calculate a week by days. I don't know, what represents no sin for a week? So i guess you can pass over my answer.
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The feast of Unleavened Bread represents no sin as leaven represents sin, and for 7 days--Time of Passover is when is I call it
 

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I was just reading in Genesis chapter 47 verse 28 about how Jacob, Israel, lived to age 147.
I wondered about how human lifespan at some point became a maximum of 120 years? So many of the Old Testament earliest figures lived to incredible ages.
The lifespan wasn't shortened to 120 years, that's a misreading. God gave 120 years for Noah to preach righteousness and the people to repent then He would bring judgement upon the Earth via the Flood.

NET Gen.6:3
So the Lord said, “My Spirit will not remain in humankind indefinitely, since they are mortal. They will remain for 120 more years.”


The sin nature is a genetic corruption in the flesh (another law) and seeing as we are (for the most part), copies of copies of copies etc, degradation over time is bound to happen.

NET Rom.7:23
But I see a different law in my members waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that is in my members.
 

UnoiAmarah

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The feast of Unleavened Bread represents no sin as leaven represents sin, and for 7 days--Time of Passover is when is I call it
I understood leaven to represent hypocrisy.

In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. Luke 12:1

And which month is Abib?
 

Omegatime

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I understood leaven to represent hypocrisy.

In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. Luke 12:1

And which month is Abib?
Month of Abib is March or April
 

Eli1

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@MaryM always has good questions.
Mary, have you found a good church with a good priest who can explain some of these deep questions that you have?
And have you thought about exploring all churches? Don't limit yourself to one denomination.
It might free you from doubt (if you have any) and might even strengthen your faith.
 

UnoiAmarah

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Month of Abib is March or April
Humm, that interesting. Abib would be the first month of the Jewish year, which I take isn't January 1st since Abib is the first month of the year according to Moses. Yet using March or April, as definitive as that is, would still not be the beginning of the year using the measure of the year as given in Genesis 1.

7 And ye shall observe the feast of unleavened bread; for in this selfsame day have I brought your armies out of the land of Egypt: therefore shall ye observe this day in your generations by an ordinance for ever.
18 In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at even, ye shall eat unleavened bread, until the one and twentieth day of the month at even.
19 Seven days shall there be no leaven found in your houses: for whosoever eateth that which is leavened, even that soul shall be cut off from the congregation of Israel, whether he be a stranger, or born in the land.
Ex 12:17-19


3 And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage; for by strength of hand the LORD brought you out from this place: there shall no leavened bread be eaten.
4 This day came ye out in the month Abib.
5 And it shall be when the LORD shall bring thee into the land of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee, a land flowing with milk and honey, that thou shalt keep this service in this month.
6 Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, and in the seventh day shall be a feast to the LORD.
7 Unleavened bread shall be eaten seven days; and there shall no leavened bread be seen with thee, neither shall there be leaven seen with thee in all thy quarters
Ex 13:3-7
 

UnoiAmarah

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The lifespan wasn't shortened to 120 years, that's a misreading.
A good tree brings forth good fruit so wouldn't an eternal being bring forth eternal beings? So how that a misreading if the eternal God created man. How could an eternal being bring forth a mortal being when a good tree cannot bring evil fruit?

So if one holds that man was created by an eternal God then without regard to the length of his days, the death of man would be shortening his lifespan if it was originally eternal. But then again, if a being was eternal then they could not die once they were created since the eternal cannot die, and if they die then they never were eternal.
 

Nehemiah6

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A good tree brings forth good fruit so wouldn't an eternal being bring forth eternal beings? So how that a misreading if the eternal God created man. How could an eternal being bring forth a mortal being when a good tree cannot bring evil fruit?
This is just plain silly. Creation has noting to do with the "fruit" produced by people. God chose to make Adam (and the human race through Adam) exactly as He wished. So you are actually sitting in judgmwnt over God!
 

UnoiAmarah

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This is just plain silly. Creation has noting to do with the "fruit" produced by people. God chose to make Adam (and the human race through Adam) exactly as He wished. So you are actually sitting in judgmwnt over God!
It is your argument that Adam was created eternal.
 

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A good tree brings forth good fruit so wouldn't an eternal being bring forth eternal beings? So how that a misreading if the eternal God created man. How could an eternal being bring forth a mortal being when a good tree cannot bring evil fruit?

So if one holds that man was created by an eternal God then without regard to the length of his days, the death of man would be shortening his lifespan if it was originally eternal. But then again, if a being was eternal then they could not die once they were created since the eternal cannot die, and if they die then they never were eternal.
Do you understand eternal means 'to be without beginning or end'? So no, God could not create an eternal being because that would require Him creating Himself which, cannot happen.

People lived well beyond 120 years after the flood. The verse in Genesis 6:3 is not about setting a limit on life span of man but on setting a limit on the number of years man will have before judgment is executed by means of the flood.
 

UnoiAmarah

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Do you understand eternal means 'to be without beginning or end'? So no, God could not create an eternal being because that would require Him creating Himself which, cannot happen..
So are you saying the Son of God is not eternal? or the Holy Spirit is not eternal?

Since the eternal God brought them into existence then they had a beginning of existence.

They are distinct from one another in their relations of origin: "It is the Father who generates, the Son who is begotten, and the Holy Spirit who proceeds."88
The divine persons do not share the one divinity among themselves but each of them is God whole and entire: https://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P17.HTM

Actually, I understand that the eternal has always existed, and does not change in form or nature, which is the reason to believe that the eternal will always exists.

People lived well beyond 120 years after the flood. The verse in Genesis 6:3 is not about setting a limit on life span of man but on setting a limit on the number of years man will have before judgment is executed by means of the flood.
That doesn't hold water since it was revealed after men began to multiply upon the face of the earth in the beginning and before the next generation was born.

Besides, after the LORD brought the cloud over the earth that covers it like a garment, being the firmament, that he made from the waters that covered the face of the earth that he said the waters would never cover the earth again.

And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud: Gen 9:14

Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,
Job 38:4&9

And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. Gen 9:15