The hatred of Jews
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Chosen for what?
Chosen to bring forth the Messiah, a lineage for proof, a trail if you will, of the veracity of His claims as Messiah.
They were first in line
We have our Messiah, can you not see how this borders on being heretical. The Church is the bride of Christ all are redeemed through Him.
The plan of salvation has come to fruition, the blood line was the ancient Jews, done, lets move on.
Romans 11:26, 27
“they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: neither because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, in Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.”
Paul defines “Israel” spiritually as children of faith under the New Testament.
Gentiles together with ethnic Jews are equally counted for the seed in Christ (Gal. 3:28, 29), they too are “Israel” (Gal. 6:16; Eph. 2:19-22). With this correct definition provided by the apostle of “Israel” in chapter nine, Paul’s argument in chapter eleven regarding God’s salvation of “all Israel” by the coming in of the Gentiles, it is clear that we are to understand, not that all ethnic Israelites, but that all spiritual Israel would be saved by the gospel.
I will go with scripture.
Ephesians 2:19-22
19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit.
Chosen to bring forth the Messiah, a lineage for proof, a trail if you will, of the veracity of His claims as Messiah.
They were first in line
We have our Messiah, can you not see how this borders on being heretical. The Church is the bride of Christ all are redeemed through Him.
The plan of salvation has come to fruition, the blood line was the ancient Jews, done, lets move on.
Romans 11:26, 27
“they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: neither because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, in Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.”
Paul defines “Israel” spiritually as children of faith under the New Testament.
Gentiles together with ethnic Jews are equally counted for the seed in Christ (Gal. 3:28, 29), they too are “Israel” (Gal. 6:16; Eph. 2:19-22). With this correct definition provided by the apostle of “Israel” in chapter nine, Paul’s argument in chapter eleven regarding God’s salvation of “all Israel” by the coming in of the Gentiles, it is clear that we are to understand, not that all ethnic Israelites, but that all spiritual Israel would be saved by the gospel.
I will go with scripture.
Ephesians 2:19-22
19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit.
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Not necessarily. In the OT Gentile "strangers" who joined themselves to Israel and placed themselves under the Old Covenant were to be regarded as Israelites. And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you. (Exod 12:48)
The Khazars who would fit this category would be regarded as Jews. In the 6th century CE, the Khazars — an obscure warlike tribe in Turkistan [present day Kazakhstan] — fought for land that was ultimately overtaken by Southern Russia and Ukraine. Despite the decline in population and territorial defeat, the Khazars continued to be mentioned throughout history — especially as one of the first groups to adopt Judaism.
https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/Khazars
The question of Jewish ancestry has been the subject of controversy for over two centuries and has yet to be resolved. The “Rhineland hypothesis” depicts Eastern European Jews as a “population isolate” that emerged from a small group of German Jews who migrated eastward and expanded rapidly. Alternatively, the “Khazarian hypothesis” suggests that Eastern European Jews descended from the Khazars, an amalgam of Turkic clans that settled the Caucasus in the early centuries CE and converted to Judaism in the 8th century. Mesopotamian and Greco–Roman Jews continuously reinforced the Judaized empire until the 13th century. Following the collapse of their empire, the Judeo–Khazars fled to Eastern Europe. The rise of European Jewry is therefore explained by the contribution of the Judeo–Khazars.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3595026/
The Khazars who would fit this category would be regarded as Jews. In the 6th century CE, the Khazars — an obscure warlike tribe in Turkistan [present day Kazakhstan] — fought for land that was ultimately overtaken by Southern Russia and Ukraine. Despite the decline in population and territorial defeat, the Khazars continued to be mentioned throughout history — especially as one of the first groups to adopt Judaism.
https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/Khazars
The question of Jewish ancestry has been the subject of controversy for over two centuries and has yet to be resolved. The “Rhineland hypothesis” depicts Eastern European Jews as a “population isolate” that emerged from a small group of German Jews who migrated eastward and expanded rapidly. Alternatively, the “Khazarian hypothesis” suggests that Eastern European Jews descended from the Khazars, an amalgam of Turkic clans that settled the Caucasus in the early centuries CE and converted to Judaism in the 8th century. Mesopotamian and Greco–Roman Jews continuously reinforced the Judaized empire until the 13th century. Following the collapse of their empire, the Judeo–Khazars fled to Eastern Europe. The rise of European Jewry is therefore explained by the contribution of the Judeo–Khazars.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3595026/
Who started this unprovoked war? And there is no question that war means innocents and civilians will either suffer or die. That is the nature of war. So why don't you take this up with the Hamas leadership? Or better yet with the Iranian mullahs who fund and train Hamas to slaughter innocents? Or even better with Obama and Biden who gave billions to Iran for Israel to be wiped out.
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I think it’s high time to cut through all this academic nonsense. Hamas started this thing in an extremely violent and brutal way. They’re still keeping hostages. What did they expect Israel to do? Exactly, they expected Israel attacking to free the hostages. Where was Hamas? Deep down in their tunnels. Who was not in those tunnels? Yep, the civilians. Who has to pay for Hamas’ actions? The civilians. Who doesn’t want to free the hostages so Israel doesn’t have to try to free them? Hamas again.
The only way this scam they’ve got going is working is because their hatred of Jews is something they share with too many people around the world.
The only way this scam they’ve got going is working is because their hatred of Jews is something they share with too many people around the world.
This is true... However, emphasis on the last portion: one law.
Khazars, and anyone for that matter, can not add to or take away from that law and still assume they're part of the group or heir to the promises. It's the same with us, we can't call ourselves Christians and do our own thing but think we'll inherent the kingdom.
Deut. 4:2
Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.”
The khazars were proselytized to Talmudism, and talmudism is the codification of the takanot and ma'asim of the Pharisees (lit. The adding to and takeaway of the law...or "oral traditions" as they're called, which - in their view - overrides the written law). These are the very elements that, at each turn, The Messiah argued against during the gospels saying they turn converts twofold into a son of hell (Matt 23:15)
So I wouldn't think their man-made traditions make any Jew that The Almighty or The Son acknowledges.
Khazars, and anyone for that matter, can not add to or take away from that law and still assume they're part of the group or heir to the promises. It's the same with us, we can't call ourselves Christians and do our own thing but think we'll inherent the kingdom.
Deut. 4:2
Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.”
The khazars were proselytized to Talmudism, and talmudism is the codification of the takanot and ma'asim of the Pharisees (lit. The adding to and takeaway of the law...or "oral traditions" as they're called, which - in their view - overrides the written law). These are the very elements that, at each turn, The Messiah argued against during the gospels saying they turn converts twofold into a son of hell (Matt 23:15)
So I wouldn't think their man-made traditions make any Jew that The Almighty or The Son acknowledges.
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Your posts have been very informative. I have some awareness of this background and hopefully can delve a bit more deeply into it soon.
Indeed Jesus rebuked them for this.
3 Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’ and ‘Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.’ 5 But you say that if a man says to his father and mother, ‘Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,’ 6 he is not to ‘honor his father’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
Matthew 15: 3-7
Indeed Jesus rebuked them for this.
3 Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’ and ‘Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.’ 5 But you say that if a man says to his father and mother, ‘Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,’ 6 he is not to ‘honor his father’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
Matthew 15: 3-7
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I find this thinking really troubling about the rest being irrelevant, irrelevant to whom?
Yes let's all just be less knowledgeable, less aware, less transparent on the facts, let's just pretend there is only one side to the story.
That seems to be working really well.
So this is how Christians behave now.
Yes let's all just be less knowledgeable, less aware, less transparent on the facts, let's just pretend there is only one side to the story.
That seems to be working really well.
So this is how Christians behave now.
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I’m a little impressed with your ability to raise up your own understanding of the world and present it as the truth. That’s okay, but it would suit you better to let go of the arrogance.
What is limited knowledge to a mind like yours? You are presenting yourself like someone who has a better grip on facts than everyone else. Why is that?
Have you ever been to Israel and/or the Middle East?
What is limited knowledge to a mind like yours? You are presenting yourself like someone who has a better grip on facts than everyone else. Why is that?
Have you ever been to Israel and/or the Middle East?