The hatred of Jews

[Valour-dare]

This is what I mean by usurpation of Christians with those claiming to be Jews (who are not). It seems you subscribe to these beliefs also. When I read scripture, it speaks about the saints (that is Christians) reigning with Christ - not unbelieving Pharisees who claim to be Jews (and are not).

1 Corinthians 6:2 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Daniel 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

I wasn't going to comment on this as I know many are deceived which I myself too was not too many years ago and that in most respects it is like hitting your head against a brick wall…

I fully agree with you as those who claim to be jews (which is their manipulation of word Judean) have nothing to do with the ancient Israelites and they themselves in their own books and writing especially including the tulmud prove they have no relation to Jesus / Yahshua Himself. They hate Him and thus hate Almighty God, The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

For by their fruits they are known and they are in the guise of angels of light… serving their father… they always play the victim whilst their orchestrate prophecy for their own ends.

 

[HeIsHere]

that in most respects it is like hitting your head against a brick wall…

That it is indeed.
Welcome to Christian Chat, tis good that those who have learned the truth add their voices in.

 

[Valour-dare]

That it is indeed.
Welcome to Christian Chat, tis good that those who have learned the truth add their voices in.

Thank you, yes indeed and I could share so much more… I have learnt far more these last 4 years than I have my entire life… (just remember I too was deceived for 23 years! Then the grace of Jesus / Yahshua opened my eyes…)

I know who is who and why…

I also know that since April / May this year "officially" we are in WW3 and that one of the next big things that will take place is Russia's further invasion of Europe…

"They" can orchestrate prophecy and think they control everything but always remember the Book / chaper Of Obidiah is waiting…

It is always darkest before the dawn and right now we are approaching the darkest time period…

 

[HeIsHere]

Thank you, yes indeed and I could share so much more… I have learnt far more these last 4 years than I have my entire life… (just remember I too was deceived for 23 years! Then the grace of Jesus / Yahshua opened my eyes…)

I know who is who and why…

I also know that since April / May this year "officially" we are in WW3 and that one of the next big things that will take place is Russia's further invasion of Europe…

"They" can orchestrate prophecy and think they control everything but always remember the Book / chaper Of Obidiah is waiting…

It is always darkest before the dawn and right now we are approaching the darkest time period…

I am glad your eyes have been opened , it is no easy thing to escape programming, I am sure who were seeking and God moved you along in your pursuit of truth, continue on your journey and you will find this mapped out futurist end times devised by people like John Hagee and his ilk starting with Scofield fake commentary is also a counterfeit.

 

[wolfwint]

This is what I mean by usurpation of Christians with those claiming to be Jews (who are not). It seems you subscribe to these beliefs also. When I read scripture, it speaks about the saints (that is Christians) reigning with Christ - not unbelieving Pharisees who claim to be Jews (and are not).

1 Corinthians 6:2 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Daniel 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

I think T.B.Baines wrote a good comnentary about it.

This is what I mean by usurpation of Christians with those claiming to be Jews (who are not). It seems you subscribe to these beliefs also. When I read scripture, it speaks about the saints (that is Christians) reigning with Christ - not unbelieving Pharisees who claim to be Jews (and are not).

1 Corinthians 6:2 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Daniel 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

Well, revealation
✝ Revelation 7:4

"And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed a hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel."

shows, that Israel plays a role during the tribulation time. And for shure when Jesus reigns in Jerusalem during the Millennium.
That we as body of Christ are be with Him is out of doubt. But we should not be do proud to think that we have replaced the Nation of Israel.

 

[Moses_Young]

I think T.B.Baines wrote a good comnentary about it.


Well, revealation
✝ Revelation 7:4

"And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed a hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel."

It's quite a long bow to draw to interpret this to be saying that only physical Jews will reign with Jesus while the spiritual Jews will not. Especially because it mentions children of Israel (of which physical Jews would only be a subset, if it was talking literal descendants of Israel). You know by faith Christians are children of Abraham, right?

Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

shows, that Israel plays a role during the tribulation time. And for shure when Jesus reigns in Jerusalem during the Millennium.
That we as body of Christ are be with Him is out of doubt. But we should not be do proud to think that we have replaced the Nation of Israel.

Not sure that anyone is being proud or talking about replacing anyone else, except you with the physical Jews replacing Christians in the thousand year reign with Jesus.

 

[Valour-dare]

I am glad your eyes have been opened , it is no easy thing to escape programming, I am sure who were seeking and God moved you along in your pursuit of truth, continue on your journey and you will find this mapped out futurist end times devised by people like John Hagee and his ilk starting with Scofield fake commentary is also a counterfeit.

Indeed it is not but Almighty God gives us grace… That grace in particular found me 2 years ago in July and a particular question or rather unconscious prayer was suddenly answered years before that I said in a moment of absolute frustration (if you are aware of the situation about South Africa then you would know that we have had major electricity (or rather sabotage of our electricity since 2008)

Then when that prayer was answered so out of the blue I had the answer to that question to try and explain it, it is like a realisation that also ties into questions about your whole life have been suddenly answered and then you know. You understand in that instant why and reasons for everything.

(For an illustrative example I don't know if you have seen the series Once Upon A Time but it is like when the main protagonist suddenly realises the truth that is how it was for me in an instant.)

 

[wolfwint]

It's quite a long bow to draw to interpret this to be saying that only physical Jews will reign with Jesus while the spiritual Jews will not. Especially because it mentions children of Israel (of which physical Jews would only be a subset, if it was talking literal descendants of Israel). You know by faith Christians are children of Abraham, right?

Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Not sure that anyone is being proud or talking about replacing anyone else, except you with the physical Jews replacing Christians in the thousand year reign with Jesus.

Where i said that physical jews replaced Christians? Maby you should read my post again?

 

[Moses_Young]

Where i said that physical jews replaced Christians? Maby you should read my post again?

Are you denying you posted the below about physical Jews? Perhaps it is you who should keep better track of what you post?

In Future they will rule the world, with Jesus Christ on their thrown in Jerusalem!

 

[wolfwint]

Are you denying you posted the below about physical Jews? Perhaps it is you who should keep better track of what you post?

No, but in my last post I wrote: that we as body of Christ are with Him (Jesus Christ) is out of doubt.

 

[Magenta]

God moved you along in your pursuit of truth

Eh? Is this something God does for everyone? Or would that be called
kidnaping against a person's will under different circumstances?

 

[GaryA]

Eh? Is this something God does for everyone?

God opens the eyes of those who are truly willing to have their eyes opened while [also] having a desire to know the truth.

 

[HeIsHere]

God opens the eyes of those who are truly willing to have their eyes opened while [also] having a desire to know the truth.

That would be a person who is already saved and yet the person does need to apply some level of intelligence, critical thinking and reasoning in conjunction with God showing them the errors in what they have been taught.

The SS Liberty is a good starting point.

 

[Valour-dare]

That would be a person who is already saved and yet the person does need to apply some level of intelligence, critical thinking and reasoning in conjunction with God showing them the errors in what they have been taught.

The SS Liberty is a good starting point.

Indeed the SS Liberty is a big eye opener. Basically it can start with that. There are excellent sources which can be pointed to but one must be aware that I had to admit that the greater part of my life I was deceived. There is a cost as it does require a lot of research and those that do know world wide are a very small percentage compared to the norm.

 

[HeIsHere]

Indeed the SS Liberty is a big eye opener. Basically it can start with that. There are excellent sources which can be pointed to but one must be aware that I had to admit that the greater part of my life I was deceived. There is a cost as it does require a lot of research and those that do know world wide are a very small percentage compared to the norm.

It is complicated I think, I was reading about indoctrination and conditioning. I thi

Ironically when it comes to this particular deception often it is non-believers who see "the light" so to speak.
I think we do go through a bit of a grieving process, angry about allowing oneself to be indoctrinated.

I think the USS Liberty is reveals a lot because there are transcripts and evidence and their are statements by the men on the ship which corroborate with the evidence.

It is a small percentage, but it is growing because the violence perpetrated by the IDF is documented and on video by the investigative journalists who manage to escape their sniper bullets.

 

[Moses_Young]

It is complicated I think, I was reading about indoctrination and conditioning. I thi

Ironically when it comes to this particular deception often it is non-believers who see "the light" so to speak.
I think we do go through a bit of a grieving process, angry about allowing oneself to be indoctrinated.

I think the USS Liberty is reveals a lot because there are transcripts and evidence and their are statements by the men on the ship which corroborate with the evidence.

It is a small percentage, but it is growing because the violence perpetrated by the IDF is documented and on video by the investigative journalists who manage to escape their sniper bullets.

I went through a period where I was deceived by Zionism. The USS Liberty was one of those inconvenient truths I couldn't get my head around, so tended to ignore. It was clear the Liberty was attacked by Israel, and the excuses it was a mistake were readily debunked by too much evidence. The best I could come up with was some conspiracy theory that the Liberty was somehow being used in a secret plot against Israel, but it still didn't explain the (Israeli) war crime of trying to kill the survivors (as if opening fire on an allied ship were not bad enough).

When I left Zionism, I found what makes a lot more sense is simply the Rothschild State of Israel (not necessarily all those claiming to be Jews) is a criminal state, and terrorism and warcrimes are just part of its modius operandi.

 

[Valour-dare]

I went through a period where I was deceived by Zionism. The USS Liberty was one of those inconvenient truths I couldn't get my head around, so tended to ignore. It was clear the Liberty was attacked by Israel, and the excuses it was a mistake were readily debunked by too much evidence. The best I could come up with was some conspiracy theory that the Liberty was somehow being used in a secret plot against Israel, but it still didn't explain the (Israeli) war crime of trying to kill the survivors (as if opening fire on an allied ship were not bad enough).

When I left Zionism, I found what makes a lot more sense is simply the Rothschild State of Israel (not necessarily all those claiming to be Jews) is a criminal state, and terrorism and warcrimes are just part of its modius operandi.

Thank you for sharing... I don't know if you are aware but this all begins at the beginning of it all... You are correct about the state of rothchilds... They are one of the big families of the cabal and they have all their "faces" to hide behind.. The USS Liberty did give me a question mark but it wasn't in itself the catalyst that led me to find out the truth. However looking back it added to that question mark...

When things are examined and found wanting then the question mark becomes even bigger another one was what the wailing wall really is, the remains of a Roman fort and has nothing to do with the ancient temple which it should as remember what Jesus / Yahshua Himself said in Matthew 24:2... And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

If it remained then He would have been in error but we can see the proof of His words. Nothing was left of the temple, the Romans even removed the foundations...

 

[PennEd]

Israel, taking names and kicking butt!!

Hezbollah Confirms Its Leader, Hassan Nasrallah, Killed By Israeli Strike

Those Jews be just too dang smart for the children of the bondwoman.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Israel, taking names and kicking butt!!

Hezbollah Confirms Its Leader, Hassan Nasrallah, Killed By Israeli Strike

Those Jews be just too dang smart for the children of the bondwoman.

They said he has been in hiding 30 yrs. Found him! God bless Israel!

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Thank you for sharing... I don't know if you are aware but this all begins at the beginning of it all...

You sound like Kamala Harris.

You are correct about the state of rothchilds... They are one of the big families of the cabal and they have all their "faces" to hide behind.. The USS Liberty did give me a question mark but it wasn't in itself the catalyst that led me to find out the truth. However looking back it added to that question mark...

Israel paid reparations for the Liberty, they paid the families, and paid more on top of that. As far as the US authorities are concerned, the matter is settled and closed.

When things are examined and found wanting then the question mark becomes even bigger another one was what the wailing wall really is
.

It's a wall where Jews pray. Some people see conspiracy theories in everything.