The Kerygma - God's Requirement for Salvation

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I agree with that. As I said before, I am certainly not criticising frederickdoc if he is not a native English speaker. Perhaps he could tell us if he is or not. His personal details on Christian Chat say that he is a citizen of the United States, but that doesn't necessarily mean his first language is English.
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Sorry, but why can't you just say, either: "Yes, English is my first language," or "No, English is not my first language"? How will following you tell me what your first language is?
I Answered that a few times why if u don't understand me there is a reason plus just ask what you don't understand if you like to know? I don't know you in Him heavenly is now my answer to you. If devil asked me same question, that the answer Also
 
I Answered that a few times why if u don't understand me there is a reason plus just ask what you don't understand if you like to know? I don't know you in Him heavenly is now my answer to you. If devil asked me same question, that the answer Also
If you have already answered the question about what your first language is, I do apologise. I must have missed it. You say I should ask if I don't understand something you write. Well, in the post I am now replying to, you wrote: "I don't know you in Him heavenly is now my answer to you." What does that mean? (I know what "I don't know you" and "is now my answer to you" mean, but what does "in Him heavenly" mean? Thank you.
 
Ok I only tTalk to God whatever language you want to call it.
in hoping to talk to God in you. ?Or? people reply to talk At Me only
" I can't hear them ",!
Not To me or Him in Me .
hhe spoke the Tread thread answer is Begger thanks the first step Know you need of Him text in English but I will not say more cus it obvious you have a problem with my interpretation yes I use kjv when God gives me something to remind or show something what I may have over looked
yes then I look deeping older meaning your English language prob changed
No I don't change it I just get closest orig I can from whatever the Lord led me to find.it's not my fault that's how he operates in me and am the Begger.
 
Ok I only tTalk to God whatever language you want to call it.
in hoping to talk to God in you. ?Or? people reply to talk At Me only
" I can't hear them ",!
Not To me or Him in Me .
hhe spoke the Tread thread answer is Begger thanks the first step Know you need of Him text in English but I will not say more cus it obvious you have a problem with my interpretation yes I use kjv when God gives me something to remind or show something what I may have over looked
yes then I look deeping older meaning your English language prob changed
No I don't change it I just get closest orig I can from whatever the Lord led me to find.it's not my fault that's how he operates in me and am the Begger.
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If you have already answered the question about what your first language is, I do apologise. I must have missed it. You say I should ask if I don't understand something you write. Well, in the post I am now replying to, you wrote: "I don't know you in Him heavenly is now my answer to you." What does that mean? (I know what "I don't know you" and "is now my answer to you" mean, but what does "in Him heavenly" mean? Thank you.
Heavenly is the language in Him.
But that's not the original you don't understand of me that was another reply let's start there,?
 
I Answered that a few times why if u don't understand me there is a reason plus just ask what you don't understand if you like to know? I don't know you in Him heavenly is now my answer to you. If devil asked me same question, that the answer Also
No dint follow me I'm Lost .Follow Him come
 
Heavenly is the language in Him.
But that's not the original you don't understand of me that was another reply let's start there,?
Sorry, but I have no idea what that means. Original what? My post was about what language is your native language (your first language, in other words). English? French? Icelandic? Mongolian?
 
The issue of apostasy has been debated ever since Augustine of Hippo developed his doctrine of predestination about A.D. 400. Romans 8:38-39 seems to say that it is impossible for a Christian to fail to persevere. Paul writes: “For I am convinced that neither death nor life… nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” We also read in John 10:27-29 that Jesus said, “My sheep listen to my voice… no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.” (Also, see Rom. 8:38-39, 14:4&10, 1Cor. 1:8, 10:12 & 15:5, 2Cor. 1:20-24, Eph. 1:11-14, 1John 2:19, Psa. 135:6 & Pro. 21:1.)

However, there are numerous verses in the NT which indicate that it is possible for a believer intentionally or willfully to separate him/herself from Christ (cf. Gal. 5:1 & Rev. 12:9). The classic passage that teaches the possibility of apostasy is Hebrews 6:4-6: “It is impossible for those who have… shared in the Holy Spirit… if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again.” Another verse in this vein is Galatians 5:4: “You who are trying to be justified by law… have fallen away from grace.” (The reader should also see Rom. 11:22, 1Cor. 15:2, Col. 1:22-23, 2Thes. 1:4-5, 2Tim. 2:12, Heb. 3:6&14, 10:35-36, Jam. 1:12, 2Pet. 1:10-11, 2:20, 1John 2:24-25 and Rev. 2:10.)

Some Christians say that the biblical exhortations to persevere do not imply the possibility of apostasy but this interpretation is problematic for three reasons:

First, the plain sense of many verses of Scripture including those listed in the preceding parentheses suggests that it is possible for a believer to commit apostasy, and saying that this understanding is false seems to make God tricky.

Second, God’s plan of salvation from the miserable consequences of choosing to reject Him makes sense only if people are morally accountable or free, and free will is meaningful only if a person can choose between essentially opposite options, as in Deut. 30:19: “I set before you today life and death, blessings and curses.” This is the same choice that was set before Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden (Gen. 2:16-17) and before that to Satan in heaven (Luke 10:18). There is no reason to think that this choice is not eternal, because it is this choice which creates: free will (faith in Christ or antichrist), moral responsibility (love the Lord or hate Him) and meaningful life (taste of heaven now and hope for eternal joy rather than misery now and ultimately hell). And 1 Cor. 13:13 says “these three remain”.

Third, Jesus said “The truth will set you free” (John 8:32), and “If the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.” (John 8:36) As a disciple of Christ I feel free, and I find every day fraught with significance as I fight on God’s side against evil in a war that has ultimate consequences for the destiny of my soul. Spiritual freedom is in Christ.

If Christians retain the same freedom they had as non-Christians to accept or reject Christ’s Lordship, then the second most important truth to learn in life after the Gospel/kerygma is the “necessity” of persevering in accepting Christ as Lord and in learning God’s Word (LGW) until we die in order to achieve our God-given purpose in life: the fullness of Christ or spiritual maturity. [LGW signifies this truth.]

The doctrine of perseverance or LGW serves as a bridge from the kerygma (creed) to the didache (lifelong spiritual growth) or from spiritual birth to maturity, so it is logical to harmonize various/diverse biblical statements on this issue before proceeding to other didachaic topics. The passages cited previously that seem to support predestination may be harmonized with those supporting free will or perseverance as follows:

1. John 10:27-29 – being “unsnatchable” does not disallow a person from choosing to jump out of the “Father’s hand”. Also, in John 6:37 “never drive away” does not mean a person cannot go away, and in John 6:39 “I shall lose none” may refer to those who persevere or do not stray, who stand firm, who endure, who hold firmly, etc.
2. Rom. 8:38-39 – “anything else” may refer to powers other than one’s own will.
3. Rom. 14:4&10, Paul says not to judge a servant of Jesus, who is able to make them stand before God’s judgment. The verb “make” may mean “provide a way”.
4. 1Cor. 1:8, 10:12 & 15:58, Paul says that Jesus will keep the Corinthian believers firm to the end, warns them that if they think they are standing firm to be careful that they don’t fall and therefore, stand firm, letting nothing move them from the work of the Lord. These verses indicate that standing firm involves a believer cooperating with the way Jesus provides.
5. 2Cor. 1:20-24, Paul says that God makes us stand firm in Christ and anointed our hearts with the HS as a seal and deposit; it is by faith that we stand firm. This indicates that the way God provides for standing firm is for believers to persevere in cooperating with the HS.
6. Eph. 1:11-14 – what is “predestined” is God’s plan to choose or elect anyone who desires to be “in him” or to satisfy GRFS. Thus, being “marked in him with a seal” does not abrogate moral free will (cf. 2Pet. 1:10f).
7. 1 John 2:19 – when synthesized with verse 24 must mean that those who repudiate their Faith do not eternally “belong”.
8. Psa. 135:6 – in light of “volitional verses” (such as Deut. 30:19 & Matt. 23:37) means that God “pleases” to permit limited free will.
9. Pro. 21:1 – in order not to make God responsible for the sins cited in the rest of the chapter must mean that the “king’s heart” or will is choosing to cooperate with the Lord’s “hand” or directions.
 
Perseverance is the bridge from GRFS (the kerygma) to LGW regarding various teachings (the didache) subsequent to learning the Gospel not only related to the subject of MFW but also to spiritual dynamics or how the HS interacts with humans, which is describe in Lesson 3, so here will be mentioned only a few details specifically related to the kerygma.

Adam and Eve knew GRFS as God’s command not to eat from the forbidden tree (Gen. 2:17), but relationship with God typically begins when a soul becomes a truthseeker, because God’s Spirit is Truth (2Thes. 2:10, 1John 5:6), and Paul indicates that souls will be able to discern God’s being and moral will in creation and so are without excuse for not satisfying GRFS as revealed via what is called general revelation (Rom. 1:20, 2:14-15, Gal. 5:14, cf. Matt. 7:12), because this serves as the proto-gospel.

When a truth-seeking sinner learns the NT Gospel of Christ, repents and confesses Jesus as Lord (Acts 20:21, Rom. 10:9), the Holy Spirit (HS) enters the convert’s heart (Rom. 5:5, Rev. 3:20), uniting them with God as heavenly Father (Rom. 8:9) and identifying them with Christ’s worldwide/catholic body or church (Col. 1:18), which moment is called spiritual rebirth (John 3:3-8) or “baptism by the Spirit” (1Cor. 12:13, Eph. 4:4-6).

The kerygmatic prayer that is necessary in order for a saint to walk with God is confession (1John 1:9, Psa. 32:1-5). When a believer confesses sin and is refilled by the Spirit, he/she experiences divine love, joy and peace (Gal. 5:22-23), which prompts prayers giving thanks. Paul instructed believers to “Pray continually; give thanks in all circumstances” (1Thes. 5:17-18).

We should approach God’s “throne of grace” (Heb. 4:16) not to ask Him to do some good He otherwise would not do but rather to remind ourselves of His presence and that He is the source of all blessings (Jam. 1:17). Prayer is like surfing: one does not need to ask God to send waves, but rather for readiness to ride them. In order to pray in accordance with God’s will, we must know God’s Word (John 15:7). Like bread and butter or romantic love and spiritual marriage, prayer and LGW go together. Pray for God’s will to be done (Matt. 26:36-46).
 
Recently someone pointed me to 2Thes. 2:10-13, which might serve as a starting point for a discussion about salvation (soteriology), because it indicates that the fount of living water is love of truth (truth-seeking).

Any thoughts?
 
Recently someone pointed me to 2Thes. 2:10-13, which might serve as a starting point for a discussion about salvation (soteriology), because it indicates that the fount of living water is love of truth (truth-seeking).

Any thoughts?

Actually, the fount of salvation is 1Tim. 2:3-4, and the reason all do not drink is 2Thes. 2:10.
God initiates, but why some refuse to cooperate remains a mystery, even to Jesus per Matt. 13:14-15.