The Kingdom of God on earth and the rapture to heaven.
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It's not about who is right my friend, it is about this great tribulation just ahead of us all.
So I simply believe if we know what the target is...then flee from it as GOD instructs us.
Now the target is satans material world with it's cities of drugs and sin, and polluting factories, where money is god so the rich get richer and the poor suffer and die, or at best are enslaved all their lives just to survive. This is SATANS world that MUST be destroyed.
So...what is still GOD'S WORLD that is left over then ? ONLY the wilderness and desolate places... that will be blessed.
Not attractive to anyone you may think...BUT a tea party compared to the tribulation so great that if GOD did not cut it short NO flesh would be left alive. Can you deny it is cut short on account of the chosen ones ? No of course not, and why weren't these ones raptured IF there was such a thing as a pretrib rapture ?
I dont know why there is a pause at Rev 8 nor does it matter as the last 3 bowls are poured out anyway.
Are you saying this pause is a pretrib rapture ???? After all the tribulation that has already happened !!!
So I simply believe if we know what the target is...then flee from it as GOD instructs us.
Now the target is satans material world with it's cities of drugs and sin, and polluting factories, where money is god so the rich get richer and the poor suffer and die, or at best are enslaved all their lives just to survive. This is SATANS world that MUST be destroyed.
So...what is still GOD'S WORLD that is left over then ? ONLY the wilderness and desolate places... that will be blessed.
Not attractive to anyone you may think...BUT a tea party compared to the tribulation so great that if GOD did not cut it short NO flesh would be left alive. Can you deny it is cut short on account of the chosen ones ? No of course not, and why weren't these ones raptured IF there was such a thing as a pretrib rapture ?
I dont know why there is a pause at Rev 8 nor does it matter as the last 3 bowls are poured out anyway.
Are you saying this pause is a pretrib rapture ???? After all the tribulation that has already happened !!!
You ghoul get up at four in the morning, hitch the horse to the wagon. The driver has to stay awake while the kids sleep. You get there about eleven in the morning. You have church til noon. You have diner on the ground. Church again til two then you pile allthe kids back in the wagon and head home. Yah, I’d say I’ve been to the church in the wilderness. The only bad part about it was it didn’t happen but once in six weeks. You see that’s how long it took the preacher to make his round.
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heartofdavid
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Originally Posted by Allenbee
“....Put in your sickle, and reap, for the hour to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is fully ripe.....
1 thes 4 says the dead in Crist rise first.
Rev 14 has no dead rising,in fact the 144k are first fruit Jews.
You guys are way outta sinc,since the gentiles "time" PRECEDES Jacobs/Israel's trouble.
Therefore the pretrib model fits all the above. The gentile bride is taken in the rapture pretrib,those foolish virgins left behind are beheaded rapidly. That is the gentile time period completed. Enter Jacobs trouble (JEWISH COVENANT PEOPLE) where the 144k are selected,sealed and commissioned as FIRST FRUITS.
BTW,there are no postrib rapture verses.
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heartofdavid
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[FONT="]Leviticus 19:9[/FONT]
[FONT="]And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not wholly reap the corners of thy field, neither shalt thou gather the gleanings of thy harvest.
We have harvest as 3 or 4 parts.
First fruits
Main
corners
Gleanings
Harvest to heaven (notice it is TO HEAVEN)
First fruits = Jesus and those in paradice at his resurrection
Main= dead in christ,those wise virgins alive,followed by the beheaded foolish virgins.
Corners and gleanings,to me is all others saved during the GT as well as the 144k,and those "ripe fruit Jews" in rev 14.[/FONT]
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heartofdavid
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Notice Jesus' first miracle is at a wedding.
A WEDDING.
Notice in Ruth,the bride is gentile,and the Jewess Naomi is also accompanying them to their redeemed land.
They told Jesus "you saved the best for last"
The Jews (the best) come in last. (rev 14)
A WEDDING.
Notice in Ruth,the bride is gentile,and the Jewess Naomi is also accompanying them to their redeemed land.
They told Jesus "you saved the best for last"
The Jews (the best) come in last. (rev 14)
Why would anyone look forward to the Great Tribulations (last half (3 1/2 years) of Daniels 70th week) with the mindset to survive it.
However, if you insist OK,,It is your eternity that is at stake. I will not help you pursue a False Eschatology thus a eternity in Hell.
I do wish you good luck in your endeavors.
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Why would anyone look forward to the Great Tribulations (last half (3 1/2 years) of Daniels 70th week) with the mindset to survive it ?
Hey bladerunner...seems you forget our Lord is here after the first 3 1/2 years.
The wath of GOD led by our Lord is on the evil for the final 3 1/2 years...HIS followers are protected, as "the woman flies to the wilderness"to the place prepared by God from the founding of the world...The wilderness of mother earth. READ Rev 12; 10-17 and SEE these are us Christians... NOT JEWS.
When the pest pretrib believers start to understand that our Lord's presence is FAR more important than their stupid "we going to heaven" junk...THEN you will be welcome here.
Hey bladerunner...seems you forget our Lord is here after the first 3 1/2 years.
The wath of GOD led by our Lord is on the evil for the final 3 1/2 years...HIS followers are protected, as "the woman flies to the wilderness"to the place prepared by God from the founding of the world...The wilderness of mother earth. READ Rev 12; 10-17 and SEE these are us Christians... NOT JEWS.
When the pest pretrib believers start to understand that our Lord's presence is FAR more important than their stupid "we going to heaven" junk...THEN you will be welcome here.