The Kingdom of God vs The Kingdom of Heaven
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The scriptures I posted proves you wrong - but you keep hiding with your head in the sand....
OK, from what I have read in scripture, it does appear that they are one in the same.. I believe that reference to these mean the things that are of heaven are revealed to man on earth. Heaven is his resting place.
The scriptures I posted proves you wrong - but you keep hiding with your head in the sand....
No...they do not..... not even close.
If you know they are different WHY can't you just tell us instead of insisting they are not....
so...One is a dwelling place....what is the other ? and which is which ?
IMO:
Kingdom of God is all of these, and perhaps more:
1) the rule of Jesus in the hearts of Believers on Earth.
2) The Millennial reign of Jesus on Earth.
3) The perpetual reign of Jesus in Heaven
kingdom of heaven is all of these and perhaps more:
1) the revelation of God's outlook as revealed by Jesus in His parables.
2) prayer for and acceptance of divine guidance as revealed in the Lord's prayer.
3) Principles that reveal God's will as revealed in Scripture
Kingdom of God is all of these, and perhaps more:
1) the rule of Jesus in the hearts of Believers on Earth.
2) The Millennial reign of Jesus on Earth.
3) The perpetual reign of Jesus in Heaven
kingdom of heaven is all of these and perhaps more:
1) the revelation of God's outlook as revealed by Jesus in His parables.
2) prayer for and acceptance of divine guidance as revealed in the Lord's prayer.
3) Principles that reveal God's will as revealed in Scripture
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I never really bothered investigating this, but tend to think "The Kingdom of God" is God and his people throughout time. "The Kingdom of Heaven" is the end of the journey -- where we spend eternity with him, and the Fall and evil is past history.
The kingdom of God is aka The kingdom of heaven or The son of man coming with power or The son of man coming with the clouds of heaven.
Many of you will dispute this but it is what it is plus; The kingdom of God is also one of the authorities of God called the son or the son of God. Jesus says He will write His new name (Authority) in those who believe, you need to figure what He meant.
Many of you will dispute this but it is what it is plus; The kingdom of God is also one of the authorities of God called the son or the son of God. Jesus says He will write His new name (Authority) in those who believe, you need to figure what He meant.
Matthew 19:23-24: Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”
The Kingdom of God and Kingdom of Heaven are two different kingdoms in scripture. Simply, the word "God" does not mean "Heaven". Making the two the same will cause problems and contradictions in the Bible.
In Matthew 5, the Kingdom of Heaven is spoken about and it says that if one sinned against God that he would go to hell. While Paul taught that the Kingdom of God is where the Christian lived(Romans 14:17). If the two are same then there is a contradiction that the Christian's salvation includes works.
Matthew 25:14-30 talks about the Kingdom of Heaven where an unfaithful servant goes to hell. Luke 19:12-27 talks about the Kingdom of God where the unfaithful servant loses his rewards and this matches up with the Christian at the Judgment Seat of Christ(2 Cor. 5:10). There is obviously a difference between the two kingdoms.
The Kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom. In Matthew 6:25-33, it talks about not worrying about physical things, but rather spiritual things, which is the Kingdom of God and his righteousness.
Romans 14:17 "For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost."
The Kingdom of God is not a physical place to live in, but rather is within the believer when he is Born Again.
The Kingdom of Heaven is a physical kingdom that will take place on earth and consists of violence. Remember that the earth is in the heaven(Genesis 1:14-16).
Matthew 11:12 "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force."
The first place where the Kingdom of Heaven is mentioned is where John the Baptist was preaching about the the fulfillment of Isaiah 40. John was preaching about the Kingdom of Jesus Christ on this earth. Other Old Testament prophecies also reveal that the Kingdom of Heaven was physical. Read Genesis 49:10; Isaiah 2:1-5, 49:5-13; Psalms 2; Jeremiah 23:5 and Luke 1:30-33.
Matthew 3:2 "And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight."
Jesus tells the Jews that the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand in Matthew 4:17. This proves that it is physical because it shows a kingdom coming on earth and is not referring to someone dying. The book of Matthew mentions the Kingdom of Heaven several times speaking of an earthly rule of Israel that is talked about in Old Testament prophecies(Matthew 5:1-6, 13, Matthew 19:10-30).
In Matthew 5, the Kingdom of Heaven is spoken about and it says that if one sinned against God that he would go to hell. While Paul taught that the Kingdom of God is where the Christian lived(Romans 14:17). If the two are same then there is a contradiction that the Christian's salvation includes works.
Matthew 25:14-30 talks about the Kingdom of Heaven where an unfaithful servant goes to hell. Luke 19:12-27 talks about the Kingdom of God where the unfaithful servant loses his rewards and this matches up with the Christian at the Judgment Seat of Christ(2 Cor. 5:10). There is obviously a difference between the two kingdoms.
The Kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom. In Matthew 6:25-33, it talks about not worrying about physical things, but rather spiritual things, which is the Kingdom of God and his righteousness.
Romans 14:17 "For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost."
The Kingdom of God is not a physical place to live in, but rather is within the believer when he is Born Again.
The Kingdom of Heaven is a physical kingdom that will take place on earth and consists of violence. Remember that the earth is in the heaven(Genesis 1:14-16).
Matthew 11:12 "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force."
The first place where the Kingdom of Heaven is mentioned is where John the Baptist was preaching about the the fulfillment of Isaiah 40. John was preaching about the Kingdom of Jesus Christ on this earth. Other Old Testament prophecies also reveal that the Kingdom of Heaven was physical. Read Genesis 49:10; Isaiah 2:1-5, 49:5-13; Psalms 2; Jeremiah 23:5 and Luke 1:30-33.
Matthew 3:2 "And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight."
Jesus tells the Jews that the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand in Matthew 4:17. This proves that it is physical because it shows a kingdom coming on earth and is not referring to someone dying. The book of Matthew mentions the Kingdom of Heaven several times speaking of an earthly rule of Israel that is talked about in Old Testament prophecies(Matthew 5:1-6, 13, Matthew 19:10-30).
One explanation for this is that Matthews Gospel was written for a mainly Jewish readership who would be offended by the use of Gods name. Lukes Gospel was aimed at a mainly Gentile audience who would be less sensitive about Gods name being used.
Kingdom of God vs Kingdom of Heaven
Throughout scripture two kingdoms: physical & spiritual are revealed.
1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam (Jesus Christ) was made a quickening spirit
Adam physical, Christ Spiritual (1 Cor 15:45)
Cain physical, Abel spiritual
Ishmael physical, Isaac spiritual (See Gal 4:22-31)
Esau physical, Jacob spiritual
Israel physical, Body of Christ/Church spiritual
Jesus preached the Gospel of the kingdom, yet spoke about both. I found the reference to "Kingdom of Heaven" 31 times in Matt. I found reference to "Kingdom of God" 45 time in the 4 gospels.
If Jewish leadership had excepted their Messiah. They could have received both. And one day soon, they will again have the opportunity.
The Kingdom of God is SPIRITUAL! Not physical:
Lk 17:21 (B) Jesus said; Behold, "the kingdom of God is within you"
(NOTE: This is a spirit promise that began in Acts 2:4)
Mat 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you
(NOTE: Righteous is abtained thru faith in Christ's sin atoning sacrifice & sealed by the indewlling Holy Spirit)
Mk 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
(NOTE: Turn to God & place your faith in His Christ)
Mk 4:26 And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground;
(NOTE: The sower is Christ (Lk 8:5), the seed is Gods Word (Lk 8:11) and the soil is our hearts Lk 8:15)
Lk 12:31 But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Lk 13:29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.
Jn 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
(NOTE: Born again = New spiritual birth)
Jn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
(NOTE: Born of water/flesh first then of spirit thru Faith. The need to be born of flesh 1st rules out salvation for fallen angels)
Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
(The Holy Spirit is what? SPIRITUAL!)
1Cor 4:20 For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.
(NOTE: The Kingdom of God is NOT physical! It is in resurrection POWER)
Lk 17:21 (B) Jesus said; Behold, "the kingdom of God is within you"
(NOTE: The Kingdom of God": is SPIRITUAL: The Church = Christ in you: "The Body of Christ"!
The point in posting the following 4 verses is: In Revelation at the end of the physical Kingdom of Heaven there is a rebellion (Rev 20:8-9) No people like these ever make it into the SPIRITUAL Kingdom of God.
1 Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1 Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
The Kingdom of Heaven is PHYSICAL! It is the fulfillment of Gods pomise to Abraham (Gen 12:2-3, 13:14, 15:17-18)
The physical land covenant God makes with Abraham & Israel is EVERLASTING:
God gives the exact boundaries of the promised land in Num 34:1-15 (also: Deut 1:8, Ex 2:24, Ex 6:4, 8 & Ps 105:8-11)
The Gospel of the Kingdom message begins with John the Baptist Matt 3:2-6 & Mk 1:4-5
After John's arrest, Jesus himself takes up the kingdon message. Matt 4:12-17
Matt 4:23 Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, "preaching the gospel of the kingdom"
The promised Kingdom reign of Christ could have begun, had the Jewish leadership accepted God's chosen Messiah. They rejected Messiah & had him killed. Gods promise of a physical King & phyical Kingdom will happen at Christs soon return.
Zech 9:14 & 15, 12:10–14, 13:1, Jer 30:18, 32:44, 33:11, 26, Joel 3:1, Amos 9:11–15, Rev 20:6.
The promised physical kingdom reign of Gods chosen Messiah was only postponed. Soon The King will return, set-up and physically rule from Jerusalem, An OT promise to Israel's Fathers/Abraham
Throughout scripture two kingdoms: physical & spiritual are revealed.
1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam (Jesus Christ) was made a quickening spirit
Adam physical, Christ Spiritual (1 Cor 15:45)
Cain physical, Abel spiritual
Ishmael physical, Isaac spiritual (See Gal 4:22-31)
Esau physical, Jacob spiritual
Israel physical, Body of Christ/Church spiritual
Jesus preached the Gospel of the kingdom, yet spoke about both. I found the reference to "Kingdom of Heaven" 31 times in Matt. I found reference to "Kingdom of God" 45 time in the 4 gospels.
If Jewish leadership had excepted their Messiah. They could have received both. And one day soon, they will again have the opportunity.
The Kingdom of God is SPIRITUAL! Not physical:
Lk 17:21 (B) Jesus said; Behold, "the kingdom of God is within you"
(NOTE: This is a spirit promise that began in Acts 2:4)
Mat 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you
(NOTE: Righteous is abtained thru faith in Christ's sin atoning sacrifice & sealed by the indewlling Holy Spirit)
Mk 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
(NOTE: Turn to God & place your faith in His Christ)
Mk 4:26 And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground;
(NOTE: The sower is Christ (Lk 8:5), the seed is Gods Word (Lk 8:11) and the soil is our hearts Lk 8:15)
Lk 12:31 But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Lk 13:29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.
Jn 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
(NOTE: Born again = New spiritual birth)
Jn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
(NOTE: Born of water/flesh first then of spirit thru Faith. The need to be born of flesh 1st rules out salvation for fallen angels)
Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
(The Holy Spirit is what? SPIRITUAL!)
1Cor 4:20 For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.
(NOTE: The Kingdom of God is NOT physical! It is in resurrection POWER)
Lk 17:21 (B) Jesus said; Behold, "the kingdom of God is within you"
(NOTE: The Kingdom of God": is SPIRITUAL: The Church = Christ in you: "The Body of Christ"!
The point in posting the following 4 verses is: In Revelation at the end of the physical Kingdom of Heaven there is a rebellion (Rev 20:8-9) No people like these ever make it into the SPIRITUAL Kingdom of God.
1 Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1 Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
The Kingdom of Heaven is PHYSICAL! It is the fulfillment of Gods pomise to Abraham (Gen 12:2-3, 13:14, 15:17-18)
The physical land covenant God makes with Abraham & Israel is EVERLASTING:
God gives the exact boundaries of the promised land in Num 34:1-15 (also: Deut 1:8, Ex 2:24, Ex 6:4, 8 & Ps 105:8-11)
The Gospel of the Kingdom message begins with John the Baptist Matt 3:2-6 & Mk 1:4-5
After John's arrest, Jesus himself takes up the kingdon message. Matt 4:12-17
Matt 4:23 Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, "preaching the gospel of the kingdom"
The promised Kingdom reign of Christ could have begun, had the Jewish leadership accepted God's chosen Messiah. They rejected Messiah & had him killed. Gods promise of a physical King & phyical Kingdom will happen at Christs soon return.
Zech 9:14 & 15, 12:10–14, 13:1, Jer 30:18, 32:44, 33:11, 26, Joel 3:1, Amos 9:11–15, Rev 20:6.
The promised physical kingdom reign of Gods chosen Messiah was only postponed. Soon The King will return, set-up and physically rule from Jerusalem, An OT promise to Israel's Fathers/Abraham
With eyes in your head I assume you can read.....
One and the same at the end of the day and when the dust settles.....two different descriptions to describe the same thing....
kind of like.....
saints------>saved<---------elect
Two different words to describe the same thing from a different aspect
With eyes in your head I assume you can read.....
Originally Posted by dcontroversal
One and the same at the end of the day and when the dust settles.....two different descriptions to describe the same thing....
kind of like.....
saints------>saved<---------elect
Two different words to describe the same thing from a different aspect
In addition to posts 33 and 36:
The message that Jesus Christ preached primarily for Israel to the Jews was the Kingdom of Heaven(Matthew 4:23, 5:4, 8:11-12, 19:28, 20:16, 25:31-34). The Jews knew that this message that Jesus was preaching was the physical reign on earth(John 1:41,45,49, 6:14-15, 12:13). The disciples of Jesus Christ knew that the Kingdom of Heaven was on earth like King David and Solomon's kingdom. Notice in the below verse, Jesus does not rebuke them and this proves that it is physical.
Acts 1:6 "When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power."
The physical kingdom was appointed to Adam in Genesis 1:28. Adam was also in dominion over a spiritual kingdom also until he fell(Genesis 1:27, Genesis 5:1-5). When Adam fell he lost the image of God and the spiritual kingdom was gone.
Yeah.....nope sorry not buying the last bolded....God is God and he is (be verb) SPIRIT....The Kingdom of HEAVEN and the Kingdom of GOD are two different sides of the same coin......and this thread is splitting hairs at the end of the day.
That could well be the case. Both were writing by Divine inspiration, yet were directed to choose different words for the same entity. After the Parable of the Sower, here is what we find:
And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. (Mt 13:10,11)
And his disciples asked him, saying, What might this parable be? And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand. (Lk 8:9,10).
To the OP: So there is no need to create an artificial distinction where none exists. That does no one any good.