The Law as a School MASTER

[michael56]

Actually Apostle Paul did say by walking in the fruit of the Spirit love that we will uphold the commands of the Lord, and even the 10 commandments. He also many of times showed in his epistles how the commands will be upheld by a born again believer;

All the scriptures in the New Testament that show the 10 Commandments upheld by believers



Old Testament New Testament
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First
Commandment
Exodus 20:3;
Deuteronomy 5:7 Matthew 4:10; Luke 4:8; Revelation 14:7


Second
Commandment
Exodus 20:4-6;
Deuteronomy 5:8-10 Acts 15:20; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:19-20; Ephesians 5:5


Third
Commandment
Exodus 20:7;
Deuteronomy 5:11 Matthew 5:33-37; 1 Timothy 6:1; James 2:7


Fourth
Commandment
Exodus 20:8-11;
Deuteronomy 5:12-15 Luke 4:16; 23:55-56; Acts 17:1-2; 18:4; Hebrews 4:9; 1 John 2:6


Fifth
Commandment
Exodus 20:12;
Deuteronomy 5:16 Matthew 15:4-9; 19:19; Mark 10:19; Luke 18:20; Romans 1:29-30; Ephesians 6:1-3


Sixth
Commandment
Exodus 20:13;
Deuteronomy 5: 17 Matthew 5:21-22; 19:18; Mark 10:19; Luke 18:20; Romans 1:29-30; 13:9


Seventh
Commandment
Exodus 20:14;
Deuteronomy 5:18 Matthew 5:27-28; 19:18; Mark 10:11-12, 19; Luke 16:18; 18:20; Romans 7:2-3; 13:9


Eighth
Commandment
Exodus 20:15;
Deuteronomy 5:19 Matthew 19:18; Mark 10:19; Luke 18:20; Romans 13:9; Ephesians 4:28; 1 Peter 4:15; Revelation 9:21


Ninth
Commandment
Exodus 20:16;
Deuteronomy 5:20 Matthew 19:18; Mark 10:19; Luke 18:20; Acts 5:3-4; Romans 13:9; Ephesians 4:25


10th
Commandment
Exodus 20:17;
Deuteronomy 5:21 Luke 12:15; Romans 1:29; 7:7; 13:9; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:19-21; Ephesians 5:3, 5

You need to stop writing from the head Kenneth and accept the new covenant. What you are stating is(in reality) In order to be a Christian the Ten Commandments must be obeyed in your life. You can try and word it however you like, that is what you are actually stating. This is what Paul found as a Pharisee when he believed that:

What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.[SUP]8 [/SUP]But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. Rom 7:7-11

This is what Paul the Christian believed:

For sin shall not be your master for you are not under law but under grace Rom 6:14


But Paul the Pharisee would have insisted, as you do now the Ten Commandments must be obeyed to inherit eternal life. Yet though he would have told others that he could not obey them himself, can you?

 

[Joshua_Generation]

I believe what is being stressed by Gandolf The White is that the law practiced with justice, mercy and faithfulness will never disappear. Jesus Christ observed all of the law with justice, mercy and faithfulness. He was never "under the law," for He is perfect, and He gave the law to Moses.

Think about this, when Jesus Christ saved the woman caught in adultery from being stoned to death as prescrived by strict law, H broke one of th laws stating she should be stoned to death, for there were ample witnesses to fill the criteria of condemning her. How is it Jesus caused them to not stone her as according to the law.

Jesus Christ teaches us teh law is good when used lawfully ith justice, mercy and faithfulness. He teaches us so much more about how the law is still to be obeyed while yet leivingin grace for He knows our frame.

The quote from Gandolf the White is very explicit on how the law should be utilized lawfully with justice, mercy and faithfulness. It is a wonderful teaching for all to consider well.

Sorry, please explain how can you practice something, which has been fulfilled?

As far as the woman in Adultery, the Pharisees and scribes that brought her to Jesus actually were guilty of breaking the law in several ways. We cannot say she was a harlot, because John 8 does not say that, it simply says a woman taken in Adultery.

First, they did not bring the man she was sleeping with. The law states if any man commit adultery with another mans wife, both should be put to death, not just the woman[Lev 20.10]

Second, they did not bring her husband or check with him to confirm the spirit of jealousy was upon him and she herself was defiled, because of her act. Nor did they perform the offering of jealousy or the test to determine if she was defiled [Numbers 5.12-31]

Lastly, They were bearing false witness against their neighbor twice. [Exodus 20.16] They did with the woman and Jesus himself, because they sought to trap him and then accuse him.

This is why Jesus made the statement if anyone has no SIN among you, then throw the first rock and they all left.

 

[dcontroversal]

Sorry, please explain how can you practice something, which has been fulfilled?

As far as the woman in Adultery, the Pharisees and scribes that brought her to Jesus actually were guilty of breaking the law in several ways. We cannot say she was a harlot, because John 8 does not say that, it simply says a woman taken in Adultery.

First, they did not bring the man she was sleeping with. The law states if any man commit adultery with another mans wife, both should be put to death, not just the woman[Lev 20.10]

Second, they did not bring her husband or check with him to confirm the spirit of jealousy was upon him and she herself was defiled, because of her act. Nor did they perform the offering of jealousy or the test to determine if she was defiled [Numbers 5.12-31]

Lastly, They were bearing false witness against their neighbor twice. [Exodus 20.16] They did with the woman and Jesus himself, because they sought to trap him and then accuse him.

This is why Jesus made the statement if anyone has no SIN among you, then throw the first rock and they all left.

AMEN and UNDER ROMAN law the JEWS could not put someone to death as the Romans were the administrators of death......

 

[dcontroversal]

You need to stop writing from the head Kenneth and accept the new covenant. What you are stating is(in reality) In order to be a Christian the Ten Commandments must be obeyed in your life. You can try and word it however you like, that is what you are actually stating. This is what Paul found as a Pharisee when he believed that:

What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.[SUP]8 [/SUP]But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. Rom 7:7-11

This is what Paul the Christian believed:

For sin shall not be your master for you are not under law but under grace Rom 6:14


But Paul the Pharisee would have insisted, as you do now the Ten Commandments must be obeyed to inherit eternal life. Yet though he would have told others that he could not obey them himself, can you?

AMEN to this as well.....No matter how he slices and dices, twists and turns he preaches a reliance upon self and his own works for salvation.......Me...I will take the Lord at has word.....He that believes on the SON HATH EVERLASTING LIFE...not is going to get it, might get it, could possibly get it, but IS HAVING IT.