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I absolutely agree with you sister on this WOF or prosperity stuff and everyone will be healed IF they have enough faith. I don't like it one bit.
Further,NONE of them have been able to answer why THEIR faith isn't strong enough to heal people. And if it is, and they can, why aren't they out there every second healing people!
But there is something else going on here. I get the "we need to identify false doctrine" doctrine. But on some issues, maybe faith healing is one, we have different ideas on what is and what is not Scripturally accurate. And therefore the fairly harsh condemnation heaped on not only the doctrine, but the adherents of that doctrine, I don't think is right, or loving.
For instance, as hurtful and destructive as I believe the faith WOF healing doctrine is, I believe the heretical doctrine, pushed and fought for by MANY here, that we can lose our Salvation, meaning we HAD it at one time, TO MUCH MORE HURTFUL AND DESTRUCTIVE!
And I, and I think you, and many others here, counter that heresy in a fairly loving manner. Obviously some may not, but by and large most do.
So why does what I admit wrong doctrine on THIS issue garner such vitriol, and much of it personal to boot? Why not just give an opinion and Scripture to counter the doctrine and leave it at that?
Further,NONE of them have been able to answer why THEIR faith isn't strong enough to heal people. And if it is, and they can, why aren't they out there every second healing people!
But there is something else going on here. I get the "we need to identify false doctrine" doctrine. But on some issues, maybe faith healing is one, we have different ideas on what is and what is not Scripturally accurate. And therefore the fairly harsh condemnation heaped on not only the doctrine, but the adherents of that doctrine, I don't think is right, or loving.
For instance, as hurtful and destructive as I believe the faith WOF healing doctrine is, I believe the heretical doctrine, pushed and fought for by MANY here, that we can lose our Salvation, meaning we HAD it at one time, TO MUCH MORE HURTFUL AND DESTRUCTIVE!
And I, and I think you, and many others here, counter that heresy in a fairly loving manner. Obviously some may not, but by and large most do.
So why does what I admit wrong doctrine on THIS issue garner such vitriol, and much of it personal to boot? Why not just give an opinion and Scripture to counter the doctrine and leave it at that?
I've been at both spots sometime during my walk with the Lord. I've both gotten to the point of thinking I lost my salvation and to the point of being furious at God for daring NOT healing John, who, by all "fairness" ought to have been healed. (He actually thought, at one point that, despite how he felt -- terrible -- he had to be okay enough to go back to work, because I had such a logical point. "No way would God have us both become disabled. How could we live if neither of us work? God, at worse, would only make one of us disabled, so you're just taking a bit to get back to normal." The only thing that snapped him out of my illogical logic was going around the block to look at our dead-battery car, and just about dying from exertion in doing that one block walk.
In the first instance, (not thinking I was saved anymore), I was sad, disappointed, depressed, lost. Isn't that the right recipe for God to come quietly into our mind to correct our stupid thoughts? And, that's what he did.
In the second instance, (God not healing, first me, then John), I was livid, furious, angry, full meltdown temper tantrum mode. Is that not the perfect recipe not to hear God? I wanted nothing to do with him! What kind of god says he loves me, but, oh well, keep the pain, and then I add it to your husband, then more so, then take away your savings, then take away your retirement money, and then send the foreclosure notice in the mail at the same time he is diagnosed with a life-threatening illness that requires chemotherapy? Livid! If there was a deeper word for how angry I was, I'd use that. No way did I want him to get through, once more wanted his comfort.
So, someone doesn't believe OSAS? Yeah. I can live with that, because I know, ultimately, God is going to reach the depressed person who thinks that.
But when someone is told God is going to heal them, and gradually, over a period of years, finally reaches that point when they realize that was an April Fools joke? That person is so angry, it's downright impossible to reach him or her again.
And THAT is the higher damage I see out of this WoF crap being taught as "gospel." That I won't tolerate, because I remember where I was even without some WoFer whispering sweet nothings (and, in this case, very much nothing) in my ear. How much worse would it be if they were?
One thing I remember from my marketing days -- Internet forums, in particular, are places where people who are disabled find refuge/companionship/socializing. It is no mistake this marketing message is bombarding this site. It's a marketing scheme. Not that I think the ones posting these messages constantly are doing so to make money over the misfortunes of others. I really don't think that. But I do think it's very much like "say 10 Hail Marys, and pass this on to ten people within 24 hours, and you will get what you wished for." It is the mentality that "if I get X people to believe this, God owes me healing."
It is born out of the Three-Wish-Genie-god mentality. And, sometime in the futurue, when they figure out that's not working for them, they too will blame it on God, not the WoF preachers who really are making a mint out of the gullible.