The mark of beast

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MikkoAinasoja

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I Believe, that the sad truth is, that most of peoples, and also christians (if not all) have already taken the mark of beast, and not even knowing it. As I see it, it is not a some chip, which by the way is implanted in left hand, not right. I believe that the mark of the beast is metaphora for some values which, if we adopt, we take the mark. In right hand it may mean, that you give your right hand to beast by example working for wrong cause, giving your time and effor of your hand, not the work of God, but for the beast, and so for this world, like peoples are doing. and by doing so taking the mark in they right hand. And in head it may mean, that you are some kind of leader person in beast organisation, and so giving your head to beast.

Chip tecnology is already well known and used. What is the difference if you carry the chip in your wallet, like we all do, or under your skin? Is this really the difference between righteousness and unrighteusness, Heven and Hell? Or are the mankind along with churches just lost they way, like it was predicted to happen, and now they just stumbeling with they vain wisdome not even knowing the ture enemy of they soul because of the blinding love of this world which they have?

It is so easy and tempting to sift this whole beast danger in to so simple thing as dont just take the micro chip, and you will be ok. But it is not so simple, as we would might like to see it.

Who do you hand serve? Who do your mind serve? These are the right questions which we should ask for ourselves.

Be aware
 
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The Mark of the Beast is a mindset. It is man's number, not the number of any man in particular. In Revelation, we also see saints with God's number in their foreheads. So it is a mindset of allegiance to a system.

It shows up in many totalitarian regimes. From Nero to the papacy in the pre-Reformation era where antichristian totalitarianism ruled. And it forces obedience to wicked laws over God's laws.

Where is it now? Recently we saw where Christians could not by or sell unless they submitted to America's sexually tolerant laws that violate the Bible. This in effect places the Mark on those who agree with these laws. Only those who hold ground in opposing them remain free of the Mark. It's all about wicked laws in place of God's laws.

It is true, many looking for the symbol 666 to physically appear, might end up unknowingly wearing the Mark it represents.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Oh great now Christians can't have jobs. :cautious:

666 is Nero. Calculate the number,
This was fulfilled when Augustus Diocletian, forced Christian leaders to make sacrifices to the emperor as if he were a God. He official reinstituted that Christianity was illegal and that any Christian was not allowed any legal rights including buying and selling. He actively persecuted and killed Christians where ever he found them he imprisoned and tortured Christians until they made a sacrifice to him. If they still refused he killed them. If you are looking for a modern or up coming example of this, see Islam in the Middle east, Africa, and Asia.

The mark of the beast is not about having a job. The Bible tells us to work and support ourselves.
I wish I had a hundred dollars for every bad interpretation of the Revelation of John, that I have heard or read. I wouldn't need a job.
 

Adstar

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I Believe, that the sad truth is, that most of peoples, and also christians (if not all) have already taken the mark of beast, and not even knowing it. As I see it, it is not a some chip, which by the way is implanted in left hand, not right. I believe that the mark of the beast is metaphora for some values which, if we adopt, we take the mark. In right hand it may mean, that you give your right hand to beast by example working for wrong cause, giving your time and effor of your hand, not the work of God, but for the beast, and so for this world, like peoples are doing. and by doing so taking the mark in they right hand. And in head it may mean, that you are some kind of leader person in beast organisation, and so giving your head to beast.

Chip tecnology is already well known and used. What is the difference if you carry the chip in your wallet, like we all do, or under your skin? Is this really the difference between righteousness and unrighteusness, Heven and Hell? Or are the mankind along with churches just lost they way, like it was predicted to happen, and now they just stumbeling with they vain wisdome not even knowing the ture enemy of they soul because of the blinding love of this world which they have?

It is so easy and tempting to sift this whole beast danger in to so simple thing as dont just take the micro chip, and you will be ok. But it is not so simple, as we would might like to see it.

Who do you hand serve? Who do your mind serve? These are the right questions which we should ask for ourselves.

Be aware
Those who take the Mark of the beast will have already worshiped the image of the beast and in doing that they will show that they have been given totally over to deception.. So the Bible declares that all who take the mark of the beast will be damned.. Not necessarily because they received a chip in their hand or in their forehead but because they will have already worshiped the beast as God on earth..

And the prophecy makes it clear, No one will be able to buy or sell anything without the mark of the beast.. So this mark is not some symbolic elegance to anyone.. It is a real device that will be needed to buy or sell anything..

Anyone who refuses to worship the image of the beast will be put to death..

Note what comes first in the following passage of scripture::

Revelation 13: KJV

15 "And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. {16} And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: {17} And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

So if you do not worship the image of the beast you will be killed.. It can be seen that the Mark of the beast will be seen as a reward given to those who worshiped the image of the beast..
 

MikkoAinasoja

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Oh great now Christians can't have jobs. :cautious:

666 is Nero. Calculate the number,
This was fulfilled when Augustus Diocletian, forced Christian leaders to make sacrifices to the emperor as if he were a God. He official reinstituted that Christianity was illegal and that any Christian was not allowed any legal rights including buying and selling. He actively persecuted and killed Christians where ever he found them he imprisoned and tortured Christians until they made a sacrifice to him. If they still refused he killed them. If you are looking for a modern or up coming example of this, see Islam in the Middle east, Africa, and Asia.

The mark of the beast is not about having a job. The Bible tells us to work and support ourselves.
I wish I had a hundred dollars for every bad interpretation of the Revelation of John, that I have heard or read. I wouldn't need a job.
There is a big diffrence if you live for you job, and vealthy life, or do you live for God? Which one you live for, which one you have give your right hand?

Are you a worker of God, or are you worker of a man, and worker of this world, which will be soon gone. And when it will be, God's word will still be, and they who live for that word.
 

MikkoAinasoja

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The Mark of the Beast is a mindset. It is man's number, not the number of any man in particular. In Revelation, we also see saints with God's number in their foreheads. So it is a mindset of allegiance to a system.

It shows up in many totalitarian regimes. From Nero to the papacy in the pre-Reformation era where antichristian totalitarianism ruled. And it forces obedience to wicked laws over God's laws.

Where is it now? Recently we saw where Christians could not by or sell unless they submitted to America's sexually tolerant laws that violate the Bible. This in effect places the Mark on those who agree with these laws. Only those who hold ground in opposing them remain free of the Mark. It's all about wicked laws in place of God's laws.

It is true, many looking for the symbol 666 to physically appear, might end up unknowingly wearing the Mark it represents.
I can agree much, though I believe that the beast wich has been before, and which came back, was and is republic. Isn't Rome was foundet as a republic, but it was then taken dow by other form of rule, and isn't todays world are again republick which came back? And like it's written that the whole wolrd left walk after the beast, isnt that the case also with republick, that whole world are following it and saying who can fight agains republic, who can stand before it?

Or is this all just a big coincidence?

I dont believe so.
 

massorite

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I Believe, that the sad truth is, that most of peoples, and also christians (if not all) have already taken the mark of beast, and not even knowing it. As I see it, it is not a some chip, which by the way is implanted in left hand, not right. I believe that the mark of the beast is metaphora for some values which, if we adopt, we take the mark. In right hand it may mean, that you give your right hand to beast by example working for wrong cause, giving your time and effor of your hand, not the work of God, but for the beast, and so for this world, like peoples are doing. and by doing so taking the mark in they right hand. And in head it may mean, that you are some kind of leader person in beast organisation, and so giving your head to beast.

Chip tecnology is already well known and used. What is the difference if you carry the chip in your wallet, like we all do, or under your skin? Is this really the difference between righteousness and unrighteusness, Heven and Hell? Or are the mankind along with churches just lost they way, like it was predicted to happen, and now they just stumbeling with they vain wisdome not even knowing the ture enemy of they soul because of the blinding love of this world which they have?

It is so easy and tempting to sift this whole beast danger in to so simple thing as dont just take the micro chip, and you will be ok. But it is not so simple, as we would might like to see it.

Who do you hand serve? Who do your mind serve? These are the right questions which we should ask for ourselves.

Be aware
Oh I disagree. The mark of the beast will be a very real thing.
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
It is not mediphorical at all nor is it spiritual and it is not being used as of today and no one has accepted it yet.
Mr. Mikko you are a bit behind the times. Put into your computer "RFID TATTOO" and you will find that an ink has been developed that can be read by a reader device or a scanner back in 2007. They have already been using this programmable ink on cattle.

Somark Innovations announced biocompatible RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) ink, which can be used to tattoo cattle and laboratory rats and can be read through animal hair.
It might even be used on humans eventually.
This is a passive RFID technology that contains no metals; the tattoos themselves can be colored or invisible.
The Somark ID System creates a "biocompatible ink tatoo with chipless RFID functionality."
The RFID ink tatoo does not require line of sight to be read, as is the case with other RFID devices (making them better than a barcode for some applications).
Somark Innovations co-founder Mark Pydynowski noted that the RFID ink is fully biocompatible and was safe for use in humans. He noted that RFID ink tattoos could be used to track and rescue soldiers. "It could help identify friends or foes, prevent friendly fire, and help save soldiers' lives," Pydynowski said.
Readers should note that VeriChip tags for patients are FDA approved and VeriChip tags have been proposed for immigrants.
Yes the mark of the beast will be very real and



 
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I can agree much, though I believe that the beast wich has been before, and which came back, was and is republic. Isn't Rome was foundet as a republic, but it was then taken dow by other form of rule, and isn't todays world are again republick which came back? And like it's written that the whole wolrd left walk after the beast, isnt that the case also with republick, that whole world are following it and saying who can fight agains republic, who can stand before it?

Or is this all just a big coincidence?

I dont believe so.
There are many antichrists according to John.
 
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As I see it, it is not a some chip, which by the way is implanted in left hand, not right.
The scripture doesn’t describe the mark. God hath chosen to leave it a mystery. I take the events regarding this issue as literally as scripture allows. Venturing into our imaginations on the hiding things of God are not wise in my opinion.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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The scripture doesn’t describe the mark. God hath chosen to leave it a mystery. I take the events regarding this issue as literally as scripture allows. Venturing into our imaginations on the hiding things of God are not wise in my opinion.

it is described as a mark you must have in order to buy and or sell and similar

that is not very mysterious IMO
 

MikkoAinasoja

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There are many antichrists according to John.
And there are many beast also according to Bible. Every empire is somekind of beast.

And the present empire is (as I understand) the last one, which was to rise. The third empire (beast) from Daniels book. Empire of the Beast with ten horn, and as I see, the horn with human eyes and mouth, may be a horn of democracy.

I believe that we are pretty close to the end of this world, and the return of our Lord.
 
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And there are many beast also according to Bible. Every empire is somekind of beast.

And the present empire is (as I understand) the last one, which was to rise. The third empire (beast) from Daniels book. Empire of the Beast with ten horn, and as I see, the horn with human eyes and mouth, may be a horn of democracy.

I believe that we are pretty close to the end of this world, and the return of our Lord.
I think Daniel spoke of Antiochus in Chapter 8 and the Roman Empire in Chapter 7 (= 2 different little horns instead of 1) And the Papacy growing out of the Roman Empire. But the same continues in Islam and other antichrist regimes.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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There is a big diffrence if you live for you job, and vealthy life, or do you live for God? Which one you live for, which one you have give your right hand?

Are you a worker of God, or are you worker of a man, and worker of this world, which will be soon gone. And when it will be, God's word will still be, and they who live for that word.
Distraction and being overly concerned with work and ambition. Is not the mark of the beast, it very well may be sin, but this does not apply to the beast and the mark of the beast or any apocalyptic prophecy. I believe you are misusing the scriptures.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I can agree much, though I believe that the beast wich has been before, and which came back, was and is republic. Isn't Rome was foundet as a republic, but it was then taken dow by other form of rule, and isn't todays world are again republick which came back? And like it's written that the whole wolrd left walk after the beast, isnt that the case also with republick, that whole world are following it and saying who can fight agains republic, who can stand before it?

Or is this all just a big coincidence?

I dont believe so.
Yet half of our nation is saying that we are losing our freedom and our republic , and that our republic is on the edge of destruction.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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I meant to say how it looks is not described. But you’re right, what can be done with it is described.
well probably gonna be a small chip since things are developing that way from reading about such things

life's necessities (physical life) will be unavailable without it

sell your soul for a bowl of lentil stew :cautious:
 
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7seasrekeyed

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And there are many beast also according to Bible. Every empire is somekind of beast.

And the present empire is (as I understand) the last one, which was to rise. The third empire (beast) from Daniels book. Empire of the Beast with ten horn, and as I see, the horn with human eyes and mouth, may be a horn of democracy.

I believe that we are pretty close to the end of this world, and the return of our Lord.

people do keep saying that

but personally, I do not see where a post trib rapture is going to intervene

and miles to go before 'we' sleep...in other words, not really that close
 
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The Mark of the Beast is a mindset. It is man's number, not the number of any man in particular. In Revelation, we also see saints with God's number in their foreheads. So it is a mindset of allegiance to a system.

It shows up in many totalitarian regimes. From Nero to the papacy in the pre-Reformation era where antichristian totalitarianism ruled. And it forces obedience to wicked laws over God's laws.

Where is it now? Recently we saw where Christians could not by or sell unless they submitted to America's sexually tolerant laws that violate the Bible. This in effect places the Mark on those who agree with these laws. Only those who hold ground in opposing them remain free of the Mark. It's all about wicked laws in place of God's laws.

It is true, many looking for the symbol 666 to physically appear, might end up unknowingly wearing the Mark it represents.
Amen, the mark of Cain (666) natural unconverted mankind .

I would offer. The foundation of the doctrine (666)is found in Genesis. Not founded in Revelation waiting for technology to increase ..it is spoken of in that book but not founded..

There in Genesis God who sent born again Abel as a apostle to perform the work of the Spirit of Christ. . . preach the "gospel of rest" to his brother Cain. Abel being yoked with Christ. .

Cain having no faith in a God not seen murdered his brother. The first recorded martyr. Satan a murderer from the beginning murdering Abel.

Mankind already under the law of suffering "work or die". Christ when he cursed the earth it diminished the amount of food produced . Therefore creating the increase of labor required to live. Cain having no rest in Christ thought to himself the punishment was more than he could bear as "living hell" by reason of suffering. .

Cain the restless (no sabbath) wanderer. . hoped for death. But the Holy Spirit declared "mark my word" (666 representing unbelief.) If man take Cains he will take their life. Cain like Esau the first born of the flesh were used to show those (666) that had no value in the things of God unseen. . but rather sell that to buy the temporal. Esau a cup of soup. Cain peace of mind . The out of sight out of mind foundation of Paganism (666) . They should or rather bought the gospel truth and not sold it for a little self gratification.

roverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

Genesis 4:8-15 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him. And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground. And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand; When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

Again the punishment the Son of man Jesus could bear with the father pouring out his unseen Spirit.

"666" The mark of unbelief no faith .

Not little faith (limbo) none.
 

Jackson123

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Mark of the beast only happen in great tribulation, not now
 

massorite

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The scripture doesn’t describe the mark. God hath chosen to leave it a mystery. I take the events regarding this issue as literally as scripture allows. Venturing into our imaginations on the hiding things of God are not wise in my opinion.
Your right the Bible does not describe mark but the first time the number 666 shows up in the bible is during the story of Solomon.
1Ki 10:14 Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold,
A score equals 20 so in this verse we have the number 666. I believe this is a hint as to exactly what the mard of the beast is all about. Which is money. Without the mark when it is implemented folks won't be able to buy food, cars, medical help, a roof over our heads, electricity and gas to keep us warm in the winter time. We won't even be able to buy toilet paper. We won't be allowed to have a bank account, a job and if we have children who depend on us we won't be able to provide for them or anybody else in our family unless we take the mark.
The mark of the beast will separate the true believers from the false believers and I believe that is the whole of God's purpose for the mark of the beast.