The Parable of the Ten Virgins does not refer to the church

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The final week of the 70 weeks is FOR THE JEWS. Daniel 9:24. Specifically, it pertains to Daniel's people and the Holy City of Jerusalem. It was fulfilled when Jesus went to the cross (Week 69 1/2) and ended at the Stoning of Stephen. The GT began then when Herod crucified James and imprisoned Peter. And Paul found the Jews to be unworthy of the Gospel. Acts 13:46 after the temple was destroyed by the Roman armies, the Jews were/are under tribulation until now.
No. The 70 weeks is for Jews who have not yet entered the New Covenant.

Which of course excludes ALL Messianic Jews! Including Peter, Stephen and James

Oh yes, the futurists dispensationalists are on the money.

BTW, what you opine is vastly and tragically biblically illiterate.
 
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70 weeks = 70x7

Matthew 18:21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.


The 70th week refers to the end of a period of grace for forgiveness.
 
Would you like to specify what passages I tossed out or allegorized?
Anyone who thinks that the term "70th week" only refers to ethnic Jews has to toss out Matthew 18:21 as well as all the other New Testament verses indicating that the inheritance is based on the promise, not the flesh, and that there is no Jew or Gentile in the body of Christ.

They also have to toss out basic principles like "every word is good for instruction" as they are saying certain words do not apply to the church. It is simply a form of the cult that Paul called "the concision" in which parts of the Bible and parts of God's promises do not apply to Gentiles.
 
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Anyone who thinks that the term "70th week" only refers to ethnic Jews has to toss out Matthew 18:21 as well as all the other New Testament verses indicating that the inheritance is based on the promise, not the flesh, and that there is no Jew or Gentile in the body of Christ.

They also have to toss out basic principles like "every word is good for instruction" as they are saying certain words do not apply to the church. It is simply a form of the cult that Paul called "the concision" in which parts of the Bible and parts of God's promises do not apply to Gentiles.
I don't see the problem, since Matthew 18 has nothing to do with Daniel 9. And the idea that the 70th week is talking about the Jews doesn't violate the principle that every word is good for instruction. And it is true that some of the Bible doesn't apply to the Gentiles.

I still don't see the problem here.
 
I don't see the problem, since Matthew 18 has nothing to do with Daniel 9. And the idea that the 70th week is talking about the Jews doesn't violate the principle that every word is good for instruction. And it is true that some of the Bible doesn't apply to the Gentiles.

I still don't see the problem here.
70th week = 70x7.

Jesus defines what it is in Matthew, it is a time period for grace. When Israel was kicked off the land and taken away to Babylon it was for 70 years because of the 70 sabbath years they had not kept, which is also 70x7 (you have one sabbath year for every seven years). Jeremiah wasn't saying that they only sinned one seventh of the time, on the contrary he is using that as proof they did not obey the Lord's commands for the previous 70x7 years.

This is not something that Daniel invented, it is a principle that runs through the entire Bible on how God deals with people. Matthew 18 proves that this principle also applies to the church age.

The Four Stages of Judgment in Leviticus 26
    • Stage 1 (vv. 18-20): God promises to break their pride, causing agricultural failure by making the heavens like iron and the earth like bronze. [1]
    • Stage 2 (vv. 21-22): Judgment escalates as God sends wild beasts to destroy livestock, kill children, and decimate the population. [1]
    • Stage 3 (vv. 23-26): God brings the sword of war and pestilence, causing severe famine where food is strictly rationed. []
    • Stage 4 (vv. 27-33): The final stage involves ultimate judgment, including extreme famine, the destruction of idols, and exile from the land. [1]

The Purpose of the Stages
These progressive stages are designed to compel repentance, with each step intensifying until God finally promises to remember His covenant and restore the people if they humble themselves and confess their sins.

So then, 4x70x7 = 1,960 years.

The Jews were given a 40 year sign from when they rejected Jesus Christ as the Messiah. The sign of Jonah is not simply rising from the dead, it also includes walking to and fro throughout the city for forty days (in this case 40 years) telling them to repent. Temple records show that the signs in the temple that the atonining sacrifice was not accepted by God as well as other issues began in 30 AD and in 70 AD the temple was detroyed. That was their 40 year period of testing given them to repent. Then they were scattered to the four corners of the earth and the four stages of God's judgment began on them. Add 1,960 years to 70 AD and you get 2030 AD. Subtract seven years and you get 2023, the year that Hamas invaded.

So yes, Matthew 18 has everything to do with Daniel 9 and with the seventieth week, and with the salvation.

When we are saved there is no distinction between Jew and Gentile. The reason we can see a distinction is because of those who have not yet repented and been saved. However, prior to 2030 there will be Christians who were left behind on earth, preaching the gospel. Someone needs to be there to preach to these unrepentant Jews that Jesus Christ is the Messiah. The two witnesses will be killed in 2030, they will be the last two Christians still alive during the tribulation and that is when the last holdouts among the Jews will repent and confess that "blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord". They will be repenting for rejecting the gospel for all these years.
 
So yes, Matthew 18 has everything to do with Daniel 9 and with the seventieth week, and with the salvation.
The only thing they have in common is 70. That's it. That's all. Jesus is not talking about grace and neither is Daniel.
When we are saved there is no distinction between Jew and Gentile.
There is nothing in Daniel 9 about being saved.
 
The only thing they have in common is 70. That's it. That's all. Jesus is not talking about grace and neither is Daniel.

There is nothing in Daniel 9 about being saved.
No, a week is seven days, so seventy weeks = 70x7.
 
TOJ #145: The omega event will be unexpected. [Matt. 24:27&37-39//Luke 17:24&26-27, Luke 12:39-40, 17:28-29] Paul also taught this (in 1Thes. 5:2-6). Thus, the need for the next TOJ.

TOJ #146: Be prepared. [Matt. 24:42-44//Mark 13:33-37, Luke 12:35-40, 21:34-36] This is the explicit significance of the previous TOJ, and how to be ready is signified in the next one, the Parable of the Ten Virgins {Matt. 25:1-13}, by having lamp (olive) oil. The oil might symbolize good deeds (Jam. 2:17, Eph. 2:10) {Matt. 25:1-13, Luke 12:35}, except that the foolish virgins are disqualified from attending the wedding feast/entering heaven, which indicates that they were not genuine believers (cf. Matt. 7:21-23).
 
No, a week is seven days, so seventy weeks = 70x7.
Daniel 9 and Matthew 18:22 share a number but nothing else. Daniel’s “seventy sevens” is a literal prophetic timetable dealing with Israel’s covenant judgment, Jerusalem’s restoration, and the unfolding of redemptive history. Jesus’ “seventy times seven” is a figurative expression of limitless forgiveness in interpersonal relationships. Daniel speaks of a nation and a city; Jesus speaks of a brother and his heart. Daniel’s number has a definite endpoint; Jesus’ number intentionally has none. To equate the two is to confuse apocalyptic chronology with rabbinic hyperbole and to collapse two entirely different theological aims into one.
 
Daniel 9 and Matthew 18:22 share a number but nothing else. Daniel’s “seventy sevens” is a literal prophetic timetable dealing with Israel’s covenant judgment, Jerusalem’s restoration, and the unfolding of redemptive history. Jesus’ “seventy times seven” is a figurative expression of limitless forgiveness in interpersonal relationships. Daniel speaks of a nation and a city; Jesus speaks of a brother and his heart. Daniel’s number has a definite endpoint; Jesus’ number intentionally has none. To equate the two is to confuse apocalyptic chronology with rabbinic hyperbole and to collapse two entirely different theological aims into one.
Yes, all that is true, but the principle that you have 70 weeks of years for forgiveness and a period of grace to repent applies to both Christians and Jews. The principle is laid out in the books of Moses, and in Jeremiah and in Daniel as well as in Matthew and Revelation. To argue that these points only refer to Jews and don't refer to the church is foolish and is not supported by the Bible.
 
Yes, all that is true, but the principle that you have 70 weeks of years for forgiveness and a period of grace to repent applies to both Christians and Jews. The principle is laid out in the books of Moses, and in Jeremiah and in Daniel as well as in Matthew and Revelation. To argue that these points only refer to Jews and don't refer to the church is foolish and is not supported by the Bible.
There is no biblical principle of “70 weeks of years for forgiveness” that applies to all people. Daniel’s seventy weeks are a covenant‑historical timetable for Israel’s judgment and restoration, not a universal grace period. Jeremiah’s seventy years concern exile, not forgiveness cycles. Jesus’ “seventy times seven” is hyperbolic, not prophetic. Revelation never uses 490 years as a forgiveness pattern. The claim that Moses, Jeremiah, Daniel, Matthew, and Revelation all teach a shared 490‑year forgiveness cycle is not supported by Scripture and confuses unrelated texts simply because they contain similar numbers.
 
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There is no biblical principle of “70 weeks of years for forgiveness” that applies to all people. Daniel’s seventy weeks are a covenant‑historical timetable for Israel’s judgment and restoration, not a universal grace period. Jeremiah’s seventy years concern exile, not forgiveness cycles. Jesus’ “seventy times seven” is hyperbolic, not prophetic. Revelation never uses 490 years as a forgiveness pattern. The claim that Moses, Jeremiah, Daniel, Matthew, and Revelation all teach a shared 490‑year forgiveness cycle is not supported by Scripture and confuses unrelated texts simply because they contain similar numbers.
yes there is, it is in Matthew 18, you are to forgive 70 x 7 times. A week is a period of 7.
 
yes there is, it is in Matthew 18, you are to forgive 70 x 7 times. A week is a period of 7.
So what happens on day 491? Would Jesus tell Peter it is okay for him to not forgive after that?
 
So what happens on day 491? Would Jesus tell Peter it is okay for him to not forgive after that?
Do you understand what the age of grace is that at some point it comes to an end? People are given grace to repent, not forever and ever, but a period of grace where they can examine and confess and repent. If they continue to refuse to repent then, yes, at some point the time runs out.
 
Do you understand what the age of grace is that at some point it comes to an end? People are given grace to repent, not forever and ever, but a period of grace where they can examine and confess and repent. If they continue to refuse to repent then, yes, at some point the time runs out.
I was talking about what Jesus said to Peter. Jesus didn't tell Peter to forgive his brother until the time of grace ran out.
 
I was talking about what Jesus said to Peter. Jesus didn't tell Peter to forgive his brother until the time of grace ran out.
You do realize that God is righteous and any righteous requirement He puts on us He also must abide by. If Jesus tells us that we need to forgive 70x7 times then He must do the same. In addition we see in Leviticus that there are four steps. God gives you a chance to repent, if you don't then he goes to step 2, then step 3 and finally step 4. God gives you 70x7 chances to repent, and does that four times. 4x7x70 = 1960. Add that to 70 AD and you get 2030. This principle includes Gentiles. The gospel did not go to the Gentiles in earnest until 70 AD when the believers were scattered to the four corners of the earth. Yes, Gentiles were saved prior to that, but that is like doing research and development on the gospel to the Gentiles which was given to Paul. He was killed prior to 70 AD, and so we had the complete ministry of Paul, which is the gospel to the Gentiles, published and distributed just prior to 70 AD. Not only so but Peter writing, confirming that Paul's ministry was of the Lord was also published and distributed right before 70 AD. So this principle that we are given this period of grace to receive the gospel of Jesus Christ applies to both Jews and Gentiles. It is a matter of righteousness and the Lord's kingdom is built on the solid foundation of righteousness.
 
You do realize that God is righteous and any righteous requirement He puts on us He also must abide by. If Jesus tells us that we need to forgive 70x7 times then He must do the same. In addition we see in Leviticus that there are four steps. God gives you a chance to repent, if you don't then he goes to step 2, then step 3 and finally step 4. God gives you 70x7 chances to repent, and does that four times. 4x7x70 = 1960. Add that to 70 AD and you get 2030. This principle includes Gentiles. The gospel did not go to the Gentiles in earnest until 70 AD when the believers were scattered to the four corners of the earth. Yes, Gentiles were saved prior to that, but that is like doing research and development on the gospel to the Gentiles which was given to Paul. He was killed prior to 70 AD, and so we had the complete ministry of Paul, which is the gospel to the Gentiles, published and distributed just prior to 70 AD. Not only so but Peter writing, confirming that Paul's ministry was of the Lord was also published and distributed right before 70 AD. So this principle that we are given this period of grace to receive the gospel of Jesus Christ applies to both Jews and Gentiles. It is a matter of righteousness and the Lord's kingdom is built on the solid foundation of righteousness.
I stopped using a calculator to interpret prophecy.