The Political Hurricane that is Egypt

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Egypt army ousts Morsi, who decries 'coup'


Part of me wants a secular government and hopes that the military will step down. But I mean power corrupts right? The other part of me wants Morsi to stay because he was elected, and hope that Egypt will gradually reform itself.

Your thoughts?
 
I want a secular government (for us as well as them). I see what you mean about Morsi being elected, but his ideas seemed totally contrary to any sort of civilized republic. I wish them the best for the next round of leadership.
 
unless you are dealing with a predominately Judeo-Christian populace 'democracy' is doomed for failure especially amongst those hungering for Sharia.
 
crossnote said:
unless you are dealing with a predominately Judeo-Christian populace 'democracy' is doomed for failure especially amongst those hungering for Sharia.
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Are you speaking on Egypt or the world in general?

Japan, if world.
 
most of those muslim middle east countries are in a constant state of rebellion against one another or their leaders.
 
gb9 said:
most of those muslim middle east countries are in a constant state of rebellion against one another or their leaders.
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Due in a large part to europeans redrawing ethnic boundaries in post wwI, not entirely, but a large chunk
 
Its a pretty big exception, Singapore, and South Korea would also fit the bill, so I'd say the statement is pretty much void.
 
Army shooting people praying on Friday.

Those in the square, singing its praises, are fools. They have used Islam, now they are using democracy. Whatever it takes.

ITN News
 
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Its a pretty big exception, Singapore, and South Korea would also fit the bill, so I'd say the statement is pretty much void.
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Playing gotcha? I did say ESPECIALLY those hungering for Sharia. Those three, last I checked don't hunger.
 
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Playing gotcha? I did say ESPECIALLY those hungering for Sharia. Those three, last I checked don't hunger.
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And yet they still don't have a judo-christian majority.

The statement would be more correct if they said, Shariah law is a threat to democracies.
 
JimJimmers said:
I want a secular government (for us as well as them). I see what you mean about Morsi being elected, but his ideas seemed totally contrary to any sort of civilized republic. I wish them the best for the next round of leadership.
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i agree jimjimmers.
the trouble is, everytime the arabs get secular governments, we want to nuke 'em.
if we can't do that, we send in our Muslim Brotherhood.

or Wolf Blitzer says they're using chemical weapons on their own ppl.
so we blast 'em with freedom and democracy.
 
Ritter said:
Egypt would have been better off if they had kept their monarchy.
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ahh....ritter.
and isn't this so?

in this very thread we hear how awful it was under the Tzars.
look what they got instead.

at least kings had some interest in seeing their peasants survive.

liberal *cough* democracies *cough* are a joke.
no one can even define what a democracy is! LOL.

dip your finger in purple ink....go away for 4 years and don't rebel, and we'll let you vote the bums out...or in...or...er....:confused:
 
It is good that the muslim brotherhood was deposed from power.
Notice how the U.S. state department is mum on the subject? Except saying the millions of Egyptian citizens were wrong to rise up and demand representation?
All the Egyptian military did was respond to the demands of the masses.
- It is a good day for Egypt and the rest of the area.
- - (A bad day for world powers pitting one side -Muslims, against the other - Jews and Christians)
- - - WHAT A TERRIBLE THING TO HAPPEN TO THE HEGEMONY OF THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!?!
 
RickShafer raises a good point: injustice done by the US State Department and the Muslim Brotherhood is being denounced to the world and, in some cases, punished. This is a cause to celebrate.

I wouldn't be too quick to break out the pipers and the dancing bear though.

What may come for that country could be better or worse. My bets are on the latter.
 
Ritter said:
RickShafer raises a good point: injustice done by the US State Department and the Muslim Brotherhood is being denounced to the world and, in some cases, punished. This is a cause to celebrate.

I wouldn't be too quick to break out the pipers and the dancing bear though.

What may come for that country could be better or worse. My bets are on the latter.
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true, since the MB is all over the region...by whatever name they go at any given time.
they're pretty busy getting whipped in Syria still.

the end game isn't anything but perpetual infighting.
that's all that's needed.

they're too busy with their internal problems to look around.

here's the guy TPTB really want in....

Mohamed ElBaradei's appointment as Egypt's interim PM thrown into doubt
President's office contradicts earlier statement that leading liberal would head administration alongside Adly Mansour

Mohamed ElBaradei's appointment as Egypt's interim PM thrown into doubt | World news | guardian.co.uk

be interesting to see what the military does.
 
Folks, it's called perpetual war for perpetual peace.
A tactic used not only for foreign hegemony but to control of the population at home. (Support the troops!)
It's as old as the hills. (Read Machiavelli's 'The Prince')
 
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