The Sabbath, sunday, and christmas

[Jackson123]

Protestant has Catholics root. They not agree in the principle of doctrine, but they carry the tradition of Christmas, Sunday worship, Easter etc.

 

[john832]

We know from historical sources that pasture animals, such as sheep, were out in fields year round in Israel (Beitzah 40a). The typical usage of the "shepherds in the field" to determine birth times for Jesus is severely flawed considering they were out and about year round.

These guys don't agree...


The date of Christ's birth, as observed in the western world, is December 25, although other dates have been observed at various times and places -- in January, March, May, etc. Actually no one really knows. In fact, the church did not observe it at all for the first two centuries. The date in late December which was eventually adopted coincided with the various pagan festivals held in connection with the winter solstice.

A significant clue is found in our text. Shepherds were almost certainly not abiding in the fields watching over their flocks in late December; the sheep would have been gathered into the sheep folds long before that. - The Institute for Creation Research

 

[john832]

Protestant has Catholics root. They not agree in the principle of doctrine, but they carry the tradition of Christmas, Sunday worship, Easter etc.

Protesting harlot daughters.

 

[JimmieD]

The date in late December which was eventually adopted coincided with the various pagan festivals held in connection with the winter solstice.

I've already explored this on this thread, and nobody has answered the objections and evidence provided. It's not my fault (and really, is it all that surprising?) your ICR source isn't familiar with historical sources and chooses to repeat popular myths without giving any citations or references.

A significant clue is found in our text. Shepherds were almost certainly not abiding in the fields watching over their flocks in late December; the sheep would have been gathered into the sheep folds long before that. - The Institute for Creation Research

So I can believe Henry Morris writing the couple of paragraphs for ICR, who gives no evidence, no citations, and no references, or I can believe the historical source that I previously posted. Sheep were in the field year round in Israel according to the sources we have available.

I love this quote from your source:

It may be significant that the ancient church in Britain observed a date called Michaelmas (i.e., "Michael sent"), known as the feast of Michael and the angels.

Uh, no. British celebrations during the middle ages (notice he used the word "ancient" even though it originates from the middle ages) are not a source useful for determining Christ's birth date. Nor was Michaelmas ever even supposed to be in any way connected with Jesus' birth.