the Sabbath

[Magenta]

Righteousness = is the quality of being right in the eyes of God, including character (nature), conscience (attitude), conduct (action), and command (word). Righteousness is, therefore, based upon God's standard because He is the ultimate Lawgiver (Isaiah 33:22)

Imputed righteousness refers to the righteousness of Christ being credited to the believer’s account. To impute is to ascribe something to someone else.

Imparted righteousness is the result of the transformative work that occurs within believers as we are progressively made righteous through the power of the Holy Spirit.

The righteousness by which we are justified is imputed; the righteousness by which we are sanctified is imparted. The first is our title to heaven; the second is our fitness for heaven.

The following statement is by Ellen White from the Review and Herald, June 4, 1895 source

We can see that there is a vast difference between imputed and imparted righteousness. “The righteousness by which we are justified is imputed; the righteousness by which we are sanctified is imparted. The first is our title to heaven; the second is our fitness for heaven.”

Ellen Gould White (née Harmon; November 26, 1827 – July 16, 1915) was
an American author and co-founder of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.

 

[Inquisitor]

The following statement is by Ellen White from the Review and Herald, June 4, 1895 source

We can see that there is a vast difference between imputed and imparted righteousness. “The righteousness by which we are justified is imputed; the righteousness by which we are sanctified is imparted. The first is our title to heaven; the second is our fitness for heaven.”

Ellen Gould White (née Harmon; November 26, 1827 – July 16, 1915) was
an American author and co-founder of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.

Imputed, imparted, ???

Christ was the only righteous one.

According to Paul everyone else is unrighteous.

Romans 3:10
As it is written: “There is no righteous person, not even one."

Romans 5:17
For if by the offense of the one, death reigned through the one, much more will those who receive
the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.

Righteousness like salvation is a gift given to us in Christ.

1 Corinthians 2:2
For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified.

 

[Magenta]

Imputed, imparted, ???

Do you have TMS on ignore or something?

 

[Inquisitor]

To add..

If we are in Christ obeying Him through His power everyone one of His commandments would be kept, just as He kept them John 15:10 and submitting ourselves to Christ we are released from the condemnation of the law. There is only two choices- either we are with Christ or by default against Him. Those who do not subject themselves to God's law, scripture says they are an enmity against God. Rom 8:7-8. Choose Christ- follow the example He left, obey Him not to be saved but because we love Him so much and trust what He asks of us, is for our own good.

Yet you still sin just like everyone else and you will always break the law.

In the flesh you cannot win the battle you never could attain to any level of righteousness.

Christ was victorious and we wear His righteous robes, not our own robes.

We are only saved by grace through faith and not by any other means.

 

[Inquisitor]

Do you have TMS on ignore or something?

I don't have him on ignore.

He probably hates me.

Mwhaaaaaaaaa.

 

[Magenta]

I don't have him on ignore.

He probably hates me.

Mwhaaaaaaaaa.

I see. Just wondering why you aimed all that at me instead of him.

 

[Inquisitor]

I see. Just wondering why you aimed all that at me instead of him.

Sorry Magenta, I looked at your post after looking at one of his, then went to another post then came back.

Loaded the canon and fired.

It happens sometimes.

 

[TMS]

You should study the New Testament on the purpose and place of the Law. You will find that you are living in the shadows of a covenant that is obsolete. That's your choice. It's not mine. I prefer to walk in the Light and in the new. If all we had to do was obey a set of rules, Jesus would not have instituted the New Covenant. The old would have done. He did, because the old is unable to save anyone. All it does is condemn. There is no condemnation to those in Christ Jesus. You should try living by grace. You might like it.

The shadow is the laws that pointed to Jesus. The cerimonial, the feasts and blood offerings, the yearly sabbaths and sanctuary.
The new has Jesus our priest and lamb.
By faith in Jesus we no longer need to sacrifice animals.

Heb 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

You can't combine the 10 commandments in with the shadow laws. The bible controdicts itself if you do.

Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Col 2:14-17
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; ......17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Love is not a burden.

When you really love someone it is not a burden to obey them.

How can you be so presumptuous to think that you can do something that Peter nor Paul could not do? They called the law an unbearable yoke of slavery.

Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they. Acts 15:10-11​

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Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Galatians 5:1-3​

 

[TMS]

I don't have him on ignore.

He probably hates me.

Mwhaaaaaaaaa.

There isn't any hatred, I don't hate people because they disagree.

 

[rrcn]

Yes because the law's primary purpose was to judge Christ for our debts as a ransom payment

The royal law is love, not the 10 commandments.

If you fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: James 2:8​

[Mat 5:18 KJV] 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

The shadow is the laws that pointed to Jesus. The cerimonial, the feasts and blood offerings, the yearly sabbaths and sanctuary.
The new has Jesus our priest and lamb.

As well as the 10 commandments hidden inside the gold-covered wooden ark. You really can't separate the tablets of stone from the ark that foreshadows Christ and the righteousness of God indwelling him

But now the righteousness of God apart from law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: Romans 3:21-22​

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

[Mat 5:18 KJV] 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

All righteousness was fulfilled at the cross

 

[TMS]

How can you be so presumptuous to think that you can do something that Peter nor Paul could not do? They called the law an unbearable yoke of slavery.

Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they. Acts 15:10-11​

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Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Galatians 5:1-3​

We need to stop going around in circles..

I see a different law to you.
The shadow laws could do nothing to save from sin and the burden that the 10 commandments brings like laws today is that it points out wrong actions. It condemns us as sinners when we transgress it.

So when Paul talks about the yoke He is talking about keeping the ceremonial laws that were nailed to the cross and when people try to save themselves by keeping the law (including the 10) without faith in the gift of righteousness..
They make a yoke by trying to do what is impossible to do. Save themselves.

We are not able to save ourselves by keeping any law

But because of my faith and love for Jesus I want to obey the law of liberty.
I don't need to stress about righteousness because Jesus gifts (imputs) His righteousness to me by faith.

I also want to allow Jesus to transform me. Create a new heart In me. Sanctification.

The liberty that Christ has made us free is not an excuse to sin. Being a slave to sin is not liberty.

 

[rrcn]

All righteousness was fulfilled at the cross

[Rev 22:12-15 KJV] 12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

I see a different law to you.
The shadow laws could do nothing to save from sin and the burden that the 10 commandments brings like laws today is that it points out wrong actions. It condemns us as sinners when we transgress it.

The 10 commandments in the ark are a shadow of the reality of the righteousness of God in Christ.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Place Christ and the ark of the covenant containing the 10 commandments side by side. They are not the same thing. Which do you follow? The reality or the shadow? No man can serve two masters

 

[rrcn]

The 10 commandments in the ark are a shadow of the reality of the righteousness of God in Christ.

The ark is still before the throne of God.

[Rev 11:19 KJV] 19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

I obey God's commands. I've said before that the Christian life is a life of obedience and faith. Those who have no faith will not obey. However, I do not live according to a set of rules. I live by the leading of the Holy Spirit within me. The 10 commandments have done their job. I came to Christ. He is my very life. Jesus came that we might have abundant life. Lord Jesus does not demand that I walk less than a mile to church, cook nothing from Friday night until Saturday, not do anything that raises a sweat etc. That's the Law. If I lived by the law as you do, I'd be scared to get out of bed in case I made a mistake.

You said you obey God's commands but then say you don't live by a set of rules. We are either obeying God and what He tells us is His Truth Psa 119:151 and Righteousness Psa 119:172 Isa 56:1-6 or we are obeying our own law and truth, His is everlasting Psa 119:142 and sanctifying Eze 20:12 John 17:17, ours is not.

This is what Jesus said when we live by our rules instead of obeying God's commandments.

Mat 15:3 He answered and said to them, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, saying, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; (only found in the Ten Commandments Exo 20:12) and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ 5 But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is a gift to God”— 6 then he need not honor his father [a]or mother.’ Thus you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. 7 Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:

God placed His law in our hearts, what happens when we go away from it?

8 ‘These people draw near to Me with their mouth,
And honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
9 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ ”

The Spirit is given to help us obey God's commandments, not given to us to help us disobey

John 14:15 “If you love Me, [d]keep My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another [e]Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

1 John 3:24 Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

The ark is still before the throne of God.

[Rev 11:19 KJV] 19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

Revelation is mostly symbolic. That is symbolism for Christ himself sitting on the throne in heaven. It is used in that passage to indicate that all of the ungodly in the world are about to be slain at the presence of a holy God. No man besides the high priest was allowed to see the ark of the covenant inside God's earthly tabernacle/temple. Any others who did were killed.

And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered strange fire before the LORD, which he commanded them not. And there went out fire from the LORD, and devoured them, and they died before the LORD. Then Moses said unto Aaron, This is it that the LORD spake, saying, I will be sanctified in them that come nigh me, and before all the people I will be glorified. And Aaron held his peace. Leviticus 10:1-3​

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And the LORD spake unto Moses after the death of the two sons of Aaron, when they offered before the LORD, and died; And the LORD said unto Moses, Speak unto Aaron thy brother, that he come not at all times into the holy place within the vail before the mercy seat, which is upon the ark; that he die not: for I will appear in the cloud upon the mercy seat. Leviticus 16:1-2​