The Seals storyline in The Book of Revelation

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From the previous post, the angel of Rev. 10:1 plays a large role in the tribulation ending. So much so, that he presides over the beast, false prophet, and their followers. Which is clearly stated in Rev. 10:2 as follows:

Rev. 10:2And he had in his hand a little book open (this is the book of Rev. 5:1 that was given to the Savior in Rev. 5:7 that the angel has received from the Savior and gives to John in Rev. 10:8-10):
and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth, (the earth and sea are the populations of the world from which the beasts (Rev. 13:1, Rev. 13:11) arise, over whom the angel has authority.

And with the above information the correct interpretation of Rev. 19:17-21 now follows:

Rev. 19:17-21 And I saw an angel standing in the sun (This is the angel of Rev. 10:1);
and he cried with a loud voice (this is his identifier),
saying to all the fowls (the fouls are the 144,000)
that fly (designates that the 144,000 have mobility like the four leaders of Rev. 4:8-9. This is also in Ezekiel 1)
in the midst (midst is a word in the revelation that indicates the Savior Rev. 5:6, Rev. 6:6)
of heaven (of the earth),

In the above verse the angel of Rev. 10:1 calls to the 144,000 who are sealed to the Savior.

Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God (The 144,000 are called to the destruction of the beast and his armies and this is Rev. 9:13-15, Rev. 14:1);

18That ye may eat the flesh of kings (Rev. 17:12-14),
and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men (Rev. 6:15)
and the flesh of horses (Rev. 9:17),
and of them that sit on them (Rev. 9:16),
and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great (Rev. 6:15).

The above verse clarifies that the 144,000 are to go against the two beasts and their armies and this is also located in the winepress verses of Rev. 17:14, Rev. 6:12-17 and Rev. 9:13-21.

a) 19And I saw the beast (the beast of Rev. 13:1 Rev. 13:11),
b) and the kings of the earth (the 144,000, Rev. 1:5),
c) and their armies, gathered together to make war (which ends the 3.5 year tribulation)
a) against him that sat on the horse (the beast is against the Savior)
b) and against his army (the beasts army is against the Savior's army).

Rev. 19:19 is a reverse chiasmus and begins the winepress proper that is referenced in Rev. 19:15.

20And the beast (Rev. 13:1)
was taken, and with him the false prophet (Rev. 13:11)
that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image (Rev. 13:12-18).
These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Following is Rev. 19:15 and notice that the winepress is similar to the wrath of God.

Rev. 19:15And out of his (Jesus')
mouth (the Rev. 10:1 angel)
goeth a sharp sword (the Davidic King John),
that with it (that with John)
he (the angel)
should smite the nations (the nations of the world):
and he (the angel)
shall rule them with a rod of iron (rule the nations of the world with the Davidic King John):
and he (the angel)
treadeth the winepress
of the fierceness and wrath (similar to the wrath)
of Almighty God.

The wrath of Almighty God is located at Rev. 16:18-21. And the winepress of Rev. 19:17-21 is like that, which is also stated at Rev. 18:21-24.

 

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In this post I am completing my interpretation of the Chapter Nineteen marriage verses. And like I mentioned in my previous posts, there are many different and good interpretations of the Book of Revelation. And some are better than others.

The revelation is set to sections of seals related items. And as a result the seals of Chapter Six are shadowed in multiple places throughout the text. And for that reason I view each of the storylines in terms of the seals of Chapter Six.

And for the fall of Babylon storyline, the first seal is in Chapter Seventeen. The second seal may be in Chapter Seventeen, but I can not think of where it is at at this moment. The third seal is clearly in Rev. 18:4, and so I generally reference the third seal as Rev. 18:1-4. This third seal in the seals storyline may extend to Rev. 18:6 or Rev. 18:7. But I have not taken the time to research this fully. The fourth seal is clearly at Rev. 18:8 that is in harmony with Rev. 6:8. The fifth seal in the fall of Babylon storyline is clearly Rev. 18:20 that harmonizes with Rev. 6:9-11. Therefore the fifth seal begins in Verse 18:20 and extends to the remainder of the chapter.

Therefore, as we continue from Chapter Eighteen into Chapter Nineteen we are in the fifth seal up to the transitionary verse Rev. 19:10. Therefore, the fifth seal in the fall of Babylon storyline extends from Rev. 18:20 to Rev. 19:9.

However, there is evidence that the marriage sealing is in the sixth seal. Like where Chapter Seven is placed in the seals storyline after the sixth seal in Chapter Six. And I have considered this repeatedly over the years. But the argument in my mind always favors the marriage to be in the fifth seal from the preponderance of evidence supporting this claim.

Here is the chiasmus form of the fifth seal in the fall of Babylon storyline:

Rev. 18:20-23
Rev. 18:24, Center
Rev. 19:1-9

The center is simply saying that the subject is being changed from the fall and burning of Babylon to the marriage sealing of the 144,000 to address the recovery of the saints that are yet to be harvested.

Rev. 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Notice that it is retro verse to Rev. 6:6 saying that the job is sufficiently completed to now bring in the big guns.

Rev. 6:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

Therefore, the fall and burning of Babylon extends from the first seal into the fifth seal. Although, the Verse 6:6 reference seems to be second seal. But I will research the demarcation of the first and second seals in the fall of Babylon storyline some other day. For now lets look at the chiasmus form of the fall and burning as follows:

Rev. 17:6
Rev. 17:7-18:23 Center, the fall and burning of Babylon extended over seals 2, 3, 4, and part of 5
Rev. 18:24

And it really seems that the ending of the fifth seal is the marriage sealing. Because once the 144,000 are sealed they go to work. And there is evidence suggesting that the harvest of saints and the winepress are blended together. But Chapter Nineteen does not specifically address the harvest except to take us at Rev. 19:9 to Chapter Fourteen (Rev. 14:13) that lands just before the harvest in that chapter. Suggesting that the harvest of saints is a sixth seal event. And I have debated this several times with the preponderance of evidence supporting the harvest to be a fifth seal event.

Here is the interpretation of Rev. 19:1-9

Rev. 19:1-9 marriage (includes the harvest at Rev. 19:9 linking to Rev. 14:13-16)
Rev. 19:10 center
Rev. 19:11-21 marriage supper (the winepress of Rev. 14:17-20)

Rev. 19:1-9 And after these things (makes me think of Rev. 7:1-3)
I heard a great voice (the great voice is the angel of Rev. 10:1)
of much people in heaven, (much people on the earth)
saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
2For true and righteous are his judgments:
for he hath judged the great whore, (the judgment upon Babylon was pronounced in Chapter Seventeen
which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, (Rev. 17:1-2, 18:2-3)
and hath avenged (Rev. 6:9-10, Rev. 18:20-24)
the blood of his servants at her hand.
3And again they (the people from the previous verses)
said, Alleluia.
And her smoke rose up for ever and ever. (Babylon is destroyed forever)
4And the four and twenty elders (the 144,000)
and the four beasts (the four leaders. However, this metaphorical phrase often revers to the angel and John as it does here.)
fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, (the Father and Son are on the throne)
saying, Amen; Alleluia.
5And a voice came out of the throne, (now the Savior is speaking)
saying, Praise our God (the father), all ye his servants (the 144,000), and ye that fear him, both small and great.
6And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude (the saints of God, links to Rev. 7:9-12),
and as the voice of many waters, (the 144,000)
and as the voice of mighty thunderings, (the sons of thunder, the angel and John)
saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
7Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. (the words of the Savior continued from Verse 19:5)
8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. 9And he (the angel of Rev. 10:1)
saith unto me, Write, Blessed (links to Rev. 14:13)
are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. (Meaning that the marriage supper of the Lamb may include the harvest of saint. I continue to debate some of these details. But the call is at Rev, 19:17)
And he (the angel) saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

 

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There is a difference between the revelation and the prophecy. The first is what John wrote to his servants, and the second is the future events contained therein. So please consider Rev. 4:1 where the prophecy begins.

Rev. 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

Previously, in Chapters Two and Three, John has written the words of the Savior that are the gifts of the marriage as noted in Rev. 13:9. And before that John has written the introduction to the revelation in Chapter One, which contain his experience of seeing the Savior as well as parts and pieces of the Book of Revelation text.

But here in Rev. 4:1 we see two things taking place. A historical aspect that pertains to the revelation, and a prophetic consideration that pertains to the taking of the 144.000 off the planet just prior to the wrath of God, as referenced in Rev. 11:12.

Rev. 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

In other words, Rev. 4:1 shows the revelation which is the historical past tense, where John was called up to heaven. And also the beginning of the prophecy being shown to him, which is the future where the 144,000 are taken off the planet.

Also notice Rev. 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

In Verse 22:18 the words of the prophecy are contained in the book, and the book is the revelation. Secondly, the plagues are part of the prophecy, that are written in the revelation. That is, the plagues of Rev. 6:8 and Rev. 18:8 are part of the prophecy, and they are written in the revelation.

And that is the point of this post. Because it is natural to think that the revelation and the prophecy are the same thing. Especially where these two words are used casually. But there is a distinction between the two although it may not be noticeable.

Therefore, the whole of Chapter Four is prophecy. Except for the historical aspect of Rev. 4:1. And here is the chiasmus of Chapter Four.

a) Rev. 4:1 linking to Rev. 11:12, the 144,000 leave the earth
b) Rev. 4:2-3, the Savior is on the throne
c) Rev. 4:4-5, the 144,000 are before the throne
d) Rev. 4:6, the sanctified earth is before the throne of God
c) Rev. 7-8, the four leaders on and round about the throne
b) Rev. 9-10, the leaders of the 144,000 are before the throne of God
a) Rev. 4:11, for God's pleasure were the 144,000 created

And just an observation, there may be a reverse in the antithesis at "c" and "b".

 

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Continuing from Chapter Four to Chapter Five.

Whereas Chapter Four with one exception is prophecy, Chapter Five begins with contextual background that is not prophecy. In fact, the prophecy does not begin until the latter half of Rev. 5:6. Nevertheless, the first half of Rev. 5:6 is the celebration following the atonement in Rev. 5:5.

Rev. 5:6 And I (John)
beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne (in the midst of the throne is the Savior)
and of the four beasts (the Savior is one of the four beasts),
and in the midst of the elders (the savior is in the midst of the 144,000),
stood a Lamb as it had been slain (the Savior has been slain in the atonement as referenced in Rev. 5:6),
having seven horns (having the 144,000)
and seven eyes (and again, the 144,000, these are metaphors for the 144,000),

which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. (And this is the prophecy, that the 144,000 are sent forth into all the earth which is Rev. 16:1).

Rev. 16:1 And I heard a great voice (The Great Voice is the Savior, Rev. 1:10)
out of the temple saying to the seven angels (The Savior instructs the 144,000. More precisely however, the Savior instructs the Davidic King who then instructs his army of 144,000.),
Go your ways, and pour out the vials (judgments)
of the wrath of God upon the earth.
1) Rev. 16:2 The first judgment is upon the followers of the Rev. 8:7 beast of the earth (Rev. 13:11-18).
2) Rev. 16:3 The second judgment is upon the followers of the Rev. 8:8-9 beast of the sea (Rev. 13:1-5).
3) Rev. 16:4-7 The third judgment is upon the followers of Rev. 8:10-11 Wormwood (Rev. 13:6-8)
4) Rev. 16:8-9 The fourth is the judgment of plagues (Rev. 8:12).
Whereas the plagues ravaged the world during the tribulation (Rev. 6:8, Rev. 18:8), they continue to ravage the world during the judgment era.
5) Rev. 16:10-11 The fifth is the judgment upon Lucifer's kingdom itself which is the bottomless pit (Rev. 9:1-12). This kingdom is come to destruction here in the judgment era the ending of which is Rev. 20:1-3.
6) Rev. 16:12-16 The sixth is the judgment upon the armies that are against the 144,000 (Rev. 9:13-21). Here in the judgment era the armies against the 144,000 are gathered to Armageddon. The 144,000 are referenced as the kings of the earth in Rev. 16:14.
7) Rev. 16:17-21 The seventh judgment is conducted by the Great Voice that is the Savior that is the wrath of God.

One thing to keep in mind is that the winepress referenced in Rev. 19:11-21 and Rev. 14:17-20 is not the wrath of God in Rev. 16:17-21. The first is the ending to the 3.5 year tribulation, and the second is the ending to the 3.5 year judgment.

 

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And now we go to the chapter Five celebration that was referenced previously at Rev. 5:6. And here we see that after the Savior gave his life as a payment for souls, there was a celebration in the spirit world. And for those who do not know there is a spirit world. It is the world that we cannot see while in mortality. It is the world from which we came, and to which we will go. So think of the time on earth as the probationary period from which it is determined where we will go. And some follow Jesus Christ to go to eternal life, and some will follow Lucifer to go to eternal hell. Those are the only two choices. You either follow Jesus Christ, or you go to hell. Because only the narrow path of Jesus Christ leads to eternal life. And all other paths lead to hell. Which paths are those of Lucifer.

Rev. 5:8-14 And when he had taken the book (This is the book of life that is referenced in Rev. 20:15),
the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb (These are two of the four leaders and the 144,000)
a) having every one of them harps ,
b) and golden vials full of odours,
a) which are the prayers of saints.

The above chiasmus shows that the army of God, that is the two leaders and 144,000 servants, are harping with their harps (Rev. 14:2),. Which means, praying to God with the saints of God, That is, they have prayers to God pertaining to their coming work upon the earth that is the golden vials full of odours that is the judgments of God. That they, the 144,000 servants, are the judges who conduct the judgments as described in Chapters Fourteen and Sixteen.

9And they sung a new song, (Rev. 14:3, They, the 144,000 standing with Christ, after his atonement, two thousand years ago, sang a new song)
saying Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; (John placed this in the introduction at Rev. 1:5. Also notice that the metaphorical phrase "kindred, tongue, people, and nation" means the house of Israel. That these in celebration are saying that Jesus is worthy to take the book of life, that the saints thereby will receive not only salvation but also the first resurrection.)

10And hast made us unto our God kings and priests (This is also included in the introduction):
and we shall reign on the earth (It should be clear that the metaphorical phrase "kings of the earth" means the 144,000 servants (Rev. 1:5).

11And I (John)
beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; (Here we can see that tens of thousands of saints were in celebration after the Savior's atonement two thousand years ago.)

12Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

13And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne (the Father sits upon the throne, Rev. 5:1)
and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

14And the four beasts (This is again is the four leaders that often is referring to two of the four)
said, Amen.
And the four and twenty elders (this is the 144,000)
fell down and worshipped him (the Father and Son)
that liveth for ever and ever.

 

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From Chapters Four and Five we go to Chapter Six. A chapter addressed a couple of times already. So here is a quick review.

1st seal, the atonement / great sign of 23 Sept 2017
2nd seal the judgment / fall of Babylon
3rd seal the exodus
4th seal the burning of Babylon
5th seal the harvest of saints via the marriage
6th seal the winepress that is the marriage supper

Kind of like that.

And when you consider the fall of Babylon storyline the following chiasmus is at play:

a) Rev. 17 the fall of Babylon the economy of man
b) Rev. 18 the exodus and burning of Babylon
c) Rev. 19 the marriage and the marriage supper winepress
b) Rev. 20 the confinement of Lucifer and the first resurrection
a) Rev. 21 the rise of New Jerusalem the economy of God

However, Rev. 21:1-8 is parallel to Chapter Fifteen which is the midpoint Chapter. Which means that Chapter Twenty-One is a judgment era chapter. And the fall of Babylon storyline chiasmus is more correctly as follows:

a) Rev. 17 the fall of Babylon the economy of man Tribulation era
b) Rev. 18:1-4 the exodus Tribulation era
c) Rev. 18:5-24 burning of Babylon Tribulation era
d) Rev. 19:1-21 the marriage and the marriage supper winepress Tribulation era
c) Rev. 20 the marriage supper continues and the first resurrection begins Tribulation Era
b) Rev. 21:1-8 the midpoint parallel to Chapter Fifteen in the mark of the beast storyline Judgment Era
a) Rev. 21:8-27 Rise of New Jerusalem the economy of God parallel to Chapter Sixteen in the mark of the beast storyline Judgment era

The chiasmus is showing that New Jerusalem comes to the earth at the midpoint. Here are the midpoint verses of Chapter Twenty One. Look past the descriptive language to the to the midpoint application.

Rev. 21:1-8 And I (John)
saw a new heaven and a new earth: (midpoint)
for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; (the tribulation is over)
and there was no more sea. (The beast has been destroyed in the winepress, prior to the midpoint.)

2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. (The great city that was taken at the time of Enoch is returning to the earth at the midpoint.)
3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, (The great voice is the Savior. Rev. 1:10)
Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, (This identifies New Jerusalem as the tabernacle of God (Rev. 15:5) in the midpoint of Chapter Fifteen.
and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5And he that sat upon the throne (Chapter Four)
said, Behold, I (Jesus)
make all things new.
And he (Jesus) said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. (This is an alignment verse with Rev. 19:9 and Rev. 14:13, showing that New Jerusalem is close to the earth at the time of the marriage and harvest of saints.)

6And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. (Notice the contrast between the Savior that is the fountain of water and Wormwood that has the fountains of waters in Rev. 8:10-11, Rev. 16:4-7. The Savior is the true water of life, whereas Wormwood is the pretender. This is a judgment era harvest verse)

7He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. (The Savior is referencing the gifts of the marriage in Chapters Two and Three whereby the 144,000 are endowed with power and authority to work in the harvests and judgments)

8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. ( A striking change from the previous verse, and the coming judgment that follows the midpoint.)

To be continued.

 

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Continuing from the previous post.

And now a chiasmus summary to include Rev. 21:9-27 parallel to Rev. 17:1-18. This is a spiral with the fall of Babylon proper as the focus. Notice the midpoints of the two storylines in position "a", followed by the judgment of Chapter Sixteen in spiral with the rise of New Jerusalem that is in spiral with the central focus fall of Babylon proper in the tribulation. The chiasmus shows that Rev. 21:9-27 is parallel to both Chapter Sixteen and Chapter Seventeen. After I wrote this I remembered that Rev. 16:19 makes a similar comparison.

a) Rev. 15:1-8 midpoint in the mark of the beast storyline JUDGMENT
b) Chapter Sixteen judgment in the mark of the beast storyline JUDGMENT
c)
d) Rev. 17:1-18 fall of Babylon in the 3.5 year tribulation era, fall of Babylon storyline TRIBULATION
c) Rev. 21:9-27 rise of New Jerusalem in the 3.5 year judgment era fall of Babylon storyline JUDGMENT
b)
a) Rev. 21:1-8 midpoint in the fall of Babylon storyline JUDGMENT
The spiral reads
a) Rev. 15:1-8 midpoint in the mark of the beast storyline JUDGMENT
a) Rev. 21:1-8 midpoint in the fall of Babylon storyline JUDGMENT
b) Chapter Sixteen judgment in the mark of the beast storyline JUDGMENT
b)
c)
c) Rev. 21:9-27 rise of New Jerusalem in the 3.5 year judgment era fall of Babylon storyline JUDGMENT
d) Rev. 17:1-18 fall of Babylon in the 3.5 year tribulation era, fall of Babylon storyline TRIBULATION

The spiral spins the central focus outward into view. Spirals are throughout the Book of Revelation.
a) read here first
......b) third
...........
....................d) fifth, the central focus ending
...........c) fourth
.....
a) second


Rev. 21:9-27 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. (Rev. 21:9 is parallel to Rev. 17:1 showing that the economy of Babylon has been replaced by the economy of God that is New Jerusalem)

10And he carried me away in the spirit (Parallel to Rev. 17:3.)
to a great and high mountain, (to a great and high kingdom)
and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, (This is parallel to Chapter Seventeen where the woman was upon the beast. However now the holy city is upon the mountain.)

11Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; (Parallel to the description of Babylon in Chapter Seventeen at Rev. 17:3-6.)

12And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

13On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.

14And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. (This gets somewhat clarified in Verse 21:19)

Now the descriptive verses tie to Chapter Eleven at Rev. 11:1-3.

15And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof. (This is harmonious with Rev. 11:1-3)

16And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.

17And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel. (Here we see that the wall represents the 144,000 servants.)

18And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.
19And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. (From Verse 21:14 above. In the foundations are the names of the twelve apostles. And here they are metaphorically represented by the stones)

The first foundation was jasper; (the stone of the Father, Rev. 4:2-3)
the second, sapphire;
the third, a chalcedony;
the fourth, an emerald; (the stone of the Holy Ghost, Rev. 4:2-3)

20The fifth, sardonyx;
the sixth, sardius; (the stone of the Savior, Rev. 4:2-3)
the seventh, chrysolite;
the eighth, beryl;
the ninth, a topaz;
the tenth, a chrysoprasus;
the eleventh, a jacinth;
the twelfth, an amethyst.

21And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.

22And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. (Chapter Fifteen)
23And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
24And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: (This is Rev. 7:15-17)
and the kings of the earth (The 144,000)
do bring their glory and honour into it.
25And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
In conclusion, Chapter Twenty-One is a judgment era chapter that begins with at the midpoint and continues with the conditions at New Jerusalem while the judgment of Chapter Sixteen is played out.

 

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The four storylines in the Book of Revelation are synoptic like the gospels. They tell the same story about the seven years of tribulation and judgment but each from a different perspective.

The seals storyline is from the perspective of power and authority being transferred from the Father to the 144,000.
The trumpets storyline is from the perspective of the 144,000 conquering the two beasts.
The mark of the beast storyline is from the perspective of the saints remaining loyal to the Savior.
And the fall of Babylon storyline is from the perspective of the economy of God coming to the earth in New Jerusalem.

And that is just my quick reference about the four storylines. And they may prompt other conclusions to what they are about. But for me they in totality are about the 144,000 receiving power and authority from God to put down the two beasts, harvest the saints, and build a new civilization upon the earth that follows the laws of God.

 

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A closer look at Rev. 5:5,

Rev. 5:5
a) And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold,
b) the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David,
c) hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

In the previous verse, Rev. 5:4, John had been weeping because no one was found worthy to open the book. And now in Verse 5:5 the book has been opened by the Savior. This opening of the book is the atonement, making Verse 5:5 the atonement verse in the Book of Revelation.

Along with Jesus paying his life to open the book, the seals were also loosed. Then in Rev. 5:6 we see the Savior after the atonement, and then in Rev. 5:7 Jesus takes the book that his atonement opened in Verse 5:5.

In Chapter Six John sees the seals as Jesus opens them. The seals represent the millennia that mankind has been upon the earth. With each seal having a snapshot of some event that had occurred during each millennium. These millennial snapshot events also represent a series of events that occur in the 3.5 year tribulation.

Whereas the Chapter Six events show a relationship closer to God, the counterpart in the trumpets show a relationship that is darker. Thus,
The first seal, Rev. 6:2, has the white horse and its counterpart in Rev. 8:7 shows the trees and grass burnt up.
The second seal, Rev. 6:4, shows the angel having authority to take peace from the earth, and in 8:8-9 the great kingdom falls.
The third seal, Rev. 6:5-6 shows the saints protected, and the counter part in Rev. 8:10-11 shows some saints following Wormwood.
The fourth seal in Rev. 6:8 shows the plagues, and its counter part in Rev. 8:12 shows the Savior withdrawn from the earth.
The fifth seal in Rev. 6:9-11 shows the saints calling for vengeance, and its counter part Rev. 9:1-12 shows the bottomless pit release.
The sixth seal in Rev. 6:12-17 shows the wrath of God, and its counterpart in Rev. 9:13-21 shows havoc upon the followers of Lucifer.

And so it is that the Savior opened the book in Rev. 5:5 via the atonement, and loosed the seals that are viewed by John in Chapter Six. However, where are the names of the saints that are listed in the book, read? And the answer is Chapter Seven, after the sealing of the 144,000 and the celebration of saints. That is, the reading of the names in the book held by the Savior in Rev. 5:7 is Rev. 7:13-17. It is there that the 144,000 work in the temple of God (Rev. 7:15). It is there that the names of the saved are read.

 

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Years ago I found a verse in Chapter Twenty-Two that instructed to find the prophecy do not cross reference outside the Book of Revelation. And I followed that instruction and then found the four storylines. And so the cross referencing is to be done between the four storylines.

Although it is near impossible to not venture into the Book of Daniel. And perhaps a little Ezekiel. But for the most part I only cross reference within the Book of Revelation.

One verse that stands out is Rev. 17:3 where the woman is upon the beast. The woman is the economic system, and the beast is from the population of the world called the sea in Rev. 13:1. One thing that the 13:1 beast has is Blasphemy which is the Rev. 13:11 beast. This 13:11 beast is called the dragon in Rev. 13:2 and the mouth in Rev. 13:3-6.

This dragon is also stated in Rev. 12:3 where he draws away a third of the saints in Rev. 12:4. These saints are first stated in Rev. 12:1. So the 13:11 beast that is the dragon of 13:2 and 12:3 draws away some of the saints of God in Rev. 12:4. We see this drawing away in a warning of what not to do in Rev. 14:9-11. Because, if a saint does take the mark of the beast then said saint is subject to the judgment of Rev. 16:4-7. Thus, many saints of God will loose their eternal lives to the dragon.

The goal of the 12:3 dragon is to stop the man child of Rev. 12:5 that is the Davidic King here in the last days. The DK has a responsibility to Jesus to protect the saints identified in Rev. 6:5-6.

However, to be protected under the Davidic Covenant the saint must accept John as their king here in the last days. And the vast majority of the Christian population can not do that. And, so, the majority of the saints of God will not survive the tribulation. Figure one third will take the mark of the beast as shown in Rev. 12:4. And many will die of the plagues of Rev. 6:8, 18:8. So in the end very few will make it to the rapture off the earth at the ending of the seven years.

The population of the earth will have reduced from the eight billion that we now have to only a few million. And this will be done in a seven year period of time. We see this beginning today with the energy resources from the Persian Gulf being cut off. We are on the edge of world wide famine.

But first Babylon will fall which is the economy of the world. This is Rev. 8:8-9 and the great mountain is the great nation which is the US We also see this fall in Isaiah 19 where the US is turned over to a wicked beast. Which is the beast of Rev. 13:1.

 

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Many believe that there is only one Davidic King. However, there are many Davidic Kings in the down-line of King David.

To begin with, God established the house of David over the twelve tribes of Israel. And Jesus was born into that family. Not only was his mother Mary in the downline of King David, but Jesus's step father Joseph was as well.

The Davidic Throne has an associated Davidic Covenant. And so each Davidic King has the Davidic Covenant. Which is that the Davidic King can sacrifice himself for his people. It is a covenant that is based upon the eternal covenant whereby Jesus sacrificed himself for his people.

Isaiah provides examples of how the Davidic Covenant works. There are the basic rules, that to access the Davidic Covenant, the king must be a good and righteous follower of God.

And many believe that Jesus was the last Davidic King. However, scripture does not say this to be the case. So there is a Davidic King today that is a follower of Jesus Christ.

And that Davidic King is the Great Apostle John.

 

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Rev. 12:1-2 KJV

"And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:"

In the above verse, "there appeared," means: from seemingly no effort, something appeared.

"A great wonder." Meaning that those who see the above appearance "wonder." And this is similar to the enemy who wonder in Rev. 13:3, Rev. 13:8, and Rev. 17:8. In fact, the wonder in Rev. 12:1 above is such that "the great wonder in heaven" pertains to the worship of God. Following are the examples:

Ex.
Wonder after the beast (Rev. 13:3) leads to the worship of the beast (Rev. 13:8, Rev. 17:8)
Wonder in heaven (Rev. 12:1) leads to the worship of God.

In other words, the "wonder" in both cases leads to the worshiping of the two governments by their respective populations.

And these two "wonders" are clearly defined in Rev. 12:1 and Rev. 12:3.

1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

3And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

Whereas the government of the dragon is in Chapter thirteen, and the government of God is in Chapter Fourteen.

Whereas the government of the dragon is given as the seven heads, ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. The government of the woman has the sun, moon, and twelve crowns upon her head.

Woman is to Dragon
sun is to seven heads
moon is to ten horns
twelve stars upon her head is to seven crowns upon his heads

Therefore, the sun is the woman's head and this is Jesus
the moon is the supporting governor and this is the Davidic King
and the twelve stars are the 144,000 of Rev. 14:1.

It follows therefore that the government of God seemingly arrives from nowhere as a wonder upon the earth. A woman seeing herself arrive to serve God against the coming onslaught of the of the dragon.

And this is the correct interpretation of Rev. 12:1. The woman has seemingly arrived as a great wonder upon the earth, and this prophecy has been fulfilled.

 

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Rev. 12:2 KJV

"And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered."

The woman from the previous verse is with child. That is, the great wonder upon the earth is with child and travails in pain to be delivered. This is the 144,000 who want their freedom to do their work for God. They are upon the earth and await their Davidic King.

The verse shows that the Davidic King comes from them. He is of the 144,000 that is the great wonder upon the earth. Thus, he is upon the earth along with the 144,000.

Nevertheless, the Great Davidic King will not come forth until the dragon makes his assault as stated in Rev. 12:4.

Similar to Rev. 12:1 where the 144,000 are the great wonder that is currently upon the earth. They await their Davidic King as shown in Rev. 12:2. Therefore this verse is currently being fulfilled.

 

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Rev. 12:3

"And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads."

This is the government of the beast and is restated in Rev. 13:1. But more than that, it is the government of the dragon who gives power to the beast as referenced in Rev. 13:2. Therefore, this is the government of the false prophet of Rev. 13:11 and Rev. 13:18.

And so it is that the dragon that is the false prophet of Rev. 13:11 and Rev. 13:18 gives power to the beast as stated in Rev. 13:2. Therefore, the government of the Rev. 13:1 beast is the government of the Rev. 13:11 false prophet as stated above in Rev. 12:3.

Basically, the Rev. 13:1 beast is the puppet of the Rev. 13:11 false prophet, and this is explained in Rev. 13:11-18.

Therefore, when the Rev. 13:1 beast arises from the population of man called the "sea," it is done via the power of the Rev. 13:11 dragon. This arising is the great wonder seen upon the earth via these governments and their populations.

This arising of the Rev. 13:1 beast is done via the Catholic Pope who is the false prophet of Rev. 13:11 and 13:18. Therefore, Rev. 12:3 is the government of the 13:1 beast presided over by the Rev. 13:11 dragon.

This is the next event in the Chapter Twelve prophecy and is yet to occur. Meaning that the three nations of Rev. 13:2 must fall giving way to the dragon of Rev. 12:3. And prior to their fall they participate as three of the ten kings in Rev. 17:12-13 who bring down and burn the economic system Babylon as stated in Chapter Seventeen.

So while the ten kings bring down and burn Babylon, and three of these fall, one is restored by the dragon as shown in Rev. 13:3. This is the beast of Rev. 17:11 whose government is presided over by the dragon. This is Russia presided over by Pope Leo, the dragon of Rev. 12:3.

 

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Rev. 12:3

"And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads."

This is the government of the beast and is restated in Rev. 13:1. But more than that, it is the government of the dragon who gives power to the beast as referenced in Rev. 13:2. Therefore, this is the government of the false prophet of Rev. 13:11 and Rev. 13:18.

And so it is that the dragon that is the false prophet of Rev. 13:11 and Rev. 13:18 gives power to the beast as stated in Rev. 13:2. Therefore, the government of the Rev. 13:1 beast is the government of the Rev. 13:11 false prophet as stated above in Rev. 12:3.

Basically, the Rev. 13:1 beast is the puppet of the Rev. 13:11 false prophet, and this is explained in Rev. 13:11-18.

Therefore, when the Rev. 13:1 beast arises from the population of man called the "sea," it is done via the power of the Rev. 13:11 dragon. This arising is the great wonder seen upon the earth via these governments and their populations.

This arising of the Rev. 13:1 beast is done via the Catholic Pope who is the false prophet of Rev. 13:11 and 13:18. Therefore, Rev. 12:3 is the government of the 13:1 beast presided over by the Rev. 13:11 dragon.

This is the next event in the Chapter Twelve prophecy and is yet to occur. Meaning that the three nations of Rev. 13:2 must fall giving way to the dragon of Rev. 12:3. And prior to their fall they participate as three of the ten kings in Rev. 17:12-13 who bring down and burn the economic system Babylon as stated in Chapter Seventeen.

So while the ten kings bring down and burn Babylon, and three of these fall, one is restored by the dragon as shown in Rev. 13:3. This is the beast of Rev. 17:11 whose government is presided over by the dragon. This is Russia presided over by Pope Leo, the dragon of Rev. 12:3.

In Daniel 7, how many heads and horns do the 4 beasts have?

 

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In Daniel 7, how many heads and horns do the 4 beasts have?

C,
my report is not about Daniel but Revleation.

 

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Rev. 12:4

"And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born."

The tail is an illegal government. So the dragon from the previous verse, as an illegal government, drew away the third part of the stars of heaven.

This is the first verse in Chapter Twelve showing violence. The stars of heaven, meaning the people of the earth, are cast to the earth. They have been killed. This is the fall of Babylon proper, as was previously explained, and can also be seen in Chapter Six, which is a parallel chapter, at Rev. 6:4.

So while Rev. 12:3 shows the dragons government contrasted to the Savior's government in Rev. 12:1. The actions of warfare begin in Rev. 12:4 where the dragon attacks Babylon and extends that attack to include the 144,000 who are yet to come upon the world stage. Such that the target is to destroy the Davidic King before he has a chance to organize his army.

The full picture of Rev. 12:4 can be seen by harmonizing the parallel verses in the four storylines.

Rev. 6:4, the wicked kill each other as Babylon falls
Rev. 8:8-9, a third of the population falls when Babylon falls
Rev. 12:4, the dragon destroys Babylon and strives to kill the Davidic King
Rev. 17:16, the ten kings burn Babylon

And I realize these verses are difficult to understand because they are written in metaphor. Nevertheless, this is the order of events as outlined in Chapter Twelve.

 

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C,
my report is not about Daniel but Revleation.

Sure, but the books are referring to the same thing.

 

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Sure, but the books are referring to the same thing.

C,
you want me to count the heads and horns of the four beasts in Daniel; for you. And I am saying if you want them counted then please do so for yourself. I am not working in the Book of Daniel but Revelation. If you want to work in the Book of Daniel then go for it.

 

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Rev. 12:5

"And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne."
In the previous verse, Rev. 12:4, the dragon of Rev. 13:11 is the power behind the Rev. 13:1 beast. And this is referenced in Rev. 13:1 where upon his heads is the name Blasphemy. That is, the dragon called Blasphemy presides over the heads of the Rev. 13:1 beast. And I explained all of this previously.

And, whereas the dragon in Rev. 12:3 has participated in the fall of Babylon in Rev. 12:4 causing the deaths of hundreds of millions of people. Now comes forth the Davidic King in Rev. 12:5.

And true to the Davidic Covenant wherein a Davidic King can pay his life to protect his people. Such is the case of the Great Apostle John, that he pays his life to protect the 144,000 servants as well as the saints of God to be harvested, that the dragon seeks to destroy.

And I have explained this before.
Rev. 6:5 shows John the Davidic King with two groups of saints in his hand as two balances. The first group is to go on an exodus as explained in the next verse, Rev. 12:6. And the second group is to be harvested as shown in Rev. 12:14.

And true to the type of Jesus paying his life for his people and ascending up to God. The Great Davidic King John will do likewise.

That is, the army of God brings forth their Davidic King who is to rule all nations with his rod or iron that is the 144,000. And they do this by prayer and fasting during the feast of weeks.

In other words, the type is that Jesus showed himself and then after a period of time ascended. And John follows in the Savior's foot steps to do a similar kind of thing.

Also, Rev. 19:15 helps in explaining some of the details in Rev. 12:5, as follows:

"And out of his (Jesus)
mouth goeth a sharp sword (this is John),
that with it (with John)
he (Jesus)
should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron (John is the rod of iron):
and he (Jesus)
treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. (Jesus)"
"And she (the 144,000)
brought forth a man child (John),
who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron (John is to rule using the 144,000):
and her child (John)
was caught up unto God, and to his throne." (Rev. 4:1-3)

Basically, Rev. 12:5 is the shadow of the type.